Thursday, April 26, 2012 12:14:46 PM
"because they behaved in an unholy way" I think this was the crux of Jendrians point, the bible either says clearly what is unholy or it doesn't, and it sounds like it does state clearly, and a lot of what its states is quite clearly rubbish, so you`ve opted for this nebulous `spirit of the thing` which is about as tangible as your god.
Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:10:14 AM
>>>>FYI, the simplest and most direct explanation would be to take the writing exactly for what the words in it express<<<
But then that is exactly the opposite of what you seem to want to do. Take the Bible as a whole and explain what it expresses. God created the Universe, God created an intelligent being and attempted to have a relationship with them but could not because they behaved in an unholy way, God tried several ways to have a relationship with them (old testament), they would not change, God has a solution to this problem that solution is Christ.
The words in the Bible express this quite clearly.
Thursday, April 26, 2012 5:04:13 AM
It would be good to be able to see statistics showing how people changed religious beliefs, including defecting to aetheism from their birth religion, as the vast majority of religious people have accepted the religion they have been brought up to believe in. Indoctrinated from birth.