Tuesday, April 17, 2012 7:01:56 AM
(For those reading along, we are talking about Matthew 19:16-28 if you want to read the passage yourself.)
Bob: You still stuck your foot in your mouth, but you'll never admit it. Jesus` command was to a rich man that wanted to become his disciple, not to every Christian on earth. I`m not a disciple, preacher or evangelist and don`t wish to be.
The man did not ask to become Jesus` disciple either. He just asked "What good thing must I do to get eternal life?". He just wanted to know what to do to get into heaven.
And Jesus reiterates TWICE (Matthew 19:23-24) that is is very difficult for a rich person to get into heaven. He talks in the general case - about anyone, NOT just specifically this man. You can tell he is talking in general terms from the reaction of the other disciples (Matthew 19:25).
The passage just doesn`t say what you claim it says. Jesus was talking in the general case, as an instruction to everyone.
Monday, April 16, 2012 8:14:36 PM
"You're being idiotic over a minor detail."
I don`t consider the first amendment a minor detail. A sentence can be changed be removing 1 word and you removed 9, and then you minimize your dishonesty. You are not a libertarian. You are the worst kind of threat to freedom, a person who truly values freedom fights for the freedom of those he disagrees with.
And of course after claiming your re-writing of the first amendment was based on Supreme Court Cases and you were asked to list 1 you couldn`t. You make a lot of claims and rarely back them up, and when you do try to it is often by lying.
Monday, April 16, 2012 6:45:51 PM
Otto: You're being idiotic over a minor detail. That`s nothing new for you, You`ve taken pains to try and discredit anyone you can that way. Quibbling, like that, just makes you a disingenuous pest. Grow up.
jendrian: I see your being just as disingenuous as Otto. Being an annoying pest is a sport for you, perhaps you need to get out more and find something to do other than the mental masturbation you`re doing now.
Monday, April 16, 2012 1:05:46 PM
@CrakrJak: Metaphors are always nice; atheists (and christians, muslims, buddhists, et al) can also see the whole tree, it's not only god that realizes the limitations of your physical being and the extent of your free will. Religion is more like chopping the tree and fastening it to your car, where you`re bound by the decision of the driver, instead of leaving the tree to branch out next to other trees with true freedom.
You can even extend the analogy further: every tree in the lot that`s picked by a driver feels like they`re on the path to something better, that after being chopped and sold by some figure who claims to understand the true path of trees, he will end up on ever-lasting happiness; but alas, you`ll be dressed up silly for a week and wither faster than the other trees in the forest.