Thursday, April 12, 2012 10:50:14 PM
Odd, you suggested they couldn't tell RED from GREY it was so freaking dark! Quote me. Right f*cking now. I dare you to find where I said he couldn`t tell who was on top.
I said it`s pretty difficult to determine whose voice it is during a fight, you ignorant troll.
[quote]I don`t know, I don`t recall reading what caliber it is, even. [/quote] Than you obviously haven`t read all that much. It was a 9mm Kel-Tec PF-9.
Shows what you actually know... I`m done, you`re a troll, plain and simple.
Thursday, April 12, 2012 9:54:09 PM
Z's story has actually changed a few times since all this started. LINK it! I find that difficult to believe since Z hasn`t even SPOKEN about it. I know his father said some stuff, which he later changed, but that`s entirely different. 2nd and 3rd hand reports are NOT `facts` ok?
[quote]seeing someone`s lips moving[/quote] Odd, you suggested they couldn`t tell RED from GREY it was so freaking dark! Now a handgun is clearly visible to a witness (IF there was one)(but there is not). Do we even KNOW what the gun looks like? Shiny nickle or dull black? I don`t know, I don`t recall reading what caliber it is, even.
Just catching you trying to "work both sides" @Altaru! No ill will intended.
Thursday, April 12, 2012 9:14:54 PM
Wait, I thought Z had "no reason" to feel his life was threatened? Whether he did or not wouldn't have mattered if he hadn`t (possibly) caused a situation, and that`s the problem with the law: You can START something, then kill someone when you start losing. How crazy retarded is that sh*t?
[quote]M `seeing the gun` and `defending himself by attacking` is pure speculation, you know that eh?[/quote] Of course. But `pure speculation` is no better than believing the biased testimony of a possible criminal who claims that Martin jumped him for no reason. And it`s funny, Z`s story has actually changed a few times since all this started.
[quote]Also, how would they "see" the gun, eh @Altaru! lolz! Eagle-eyes![/quote] You`re equating seeing a relatively large piece of metal in someone`s hand to seeing someone`s lips moving during a fight in the rain?
Thursday, April 12, 2012 8:45:12 PM
And if someone's on top of you, pounding dents in your skull, it can be pretty hard to yell for help. Every hit can knock the wind out of you, disorient you, stop your brain ticking for a second... Just getting air in and out of your lungs takes top priority over using that air for anything specific.
Wait, I thought Z had "no reason" to feel his life was threatened? lolz! Which is it?
M `seeing the gun` and `defending himself by attacking` is pure speculation, you know that eh?
Your entire arguement sees to be (to me) that Z should have stayed in his car. This is not unreasonable! However it`s not a reason for M to assault Z either.
Now, if a witness should come out and say they SAW Z threaten M with the gun before the fight? THAT is entirely different! But until it happens, fantasy.
Also, how would they "see" the gun, eh @Altaru! lolz! Eagle-eyes!