Monday, April 2, 2012 5:38:12 PM
I'm not saying you have to validate religion or say that is feasible. But to say that science supports atheism is arrogant and short-sighted. Honestly, I don`t think there is a God. I think the idea of an entity sitting around creating life to watch it kill itself is ridiculous. I like to think that there is positive and negative spiritual energy that regulates the universe. But it`s beyond our scope of understanding. I`m not going to say that I believe anything for sure because of that very fact. We are unable to fully understand reality in its fullest so it is foolish to say that what we see is all there is. Demanding physical evidence of a non-physical existence is flawed from the get go. There is no possible way to fulfill that request. This is why I say science does not support atheism.
So...I`m honestly open to my mind being changed. Let me understand.
Monday, April 2, 2012 5:37:44 PM
OK. So maybe I'm looking at this all wrong so I`m going to explain my logic and someone just tell me where I`m wrong.
Imagine two (very boring) two dimensional entities. One is making the claim that there is a third dimension. The other says, "The burden of proof is on you since you have made the claim of this magical third dimension. The fact that you cannot provide proof means that science supports adimensionism."
Ok, so these beings exist on a plane which does not allow them to perceive the third dimension, all their means of measurement are defined by their perceptions so they have no way of proving the third dimension exists. They could observe effects of it however this could all be explained in two dimensional science. So, the adimensionist is also making a claim that there is no third dimension. It is a positive claim of a negative existence.
Monday, April 2, 2012 5:06:01 PM
I know those terms actually have real definitions that are probably pretty different from what I suggested but if we could at least settle on some before yelling at each other we might actually get some semblance of conversation here.