New Witness Confirms Zimmerman`s Account (Pic+)

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5Cats Male, 40-49, Canada 16991 Posts	Monday, March 26, 2012 4:38:25 PM If he didn't witness it then he`s not a drating witness!! Hope that you`re joking here... The guy heard the fighting and went out to look. It was literally in his back yard. He `witnessed` Z on the ground yelling for help and M on top beating on Z. He told M to stop it, then went in to call 911. While inside, on the line, he heard the shot. He went back out and `witnessed` the positions of M and Z after the shooting. K, happy?

paddy215 Male, 18-29, Europe 1549 Posts	Monday, March 26, 2012 3:45:11 PM "This technical aspect of it seems cut & dried to me, but apparently causes confusion in others (Sharpton, Jackson & etc)." I hate when those two are on my side of an argument, they try and turn everything into a race row which detracts from the real issues. I wouldn't be surprised if they feature in Kanye Wests next single. I can`t speak for anyone else who thinks Zimmerman is guilty, but personally I don`t think the situation was due to race. I just think the most likely scenario going by the evidence thats been made available is that Zimmerman followed Martin in an attempt to stop him from leaving before the police arrived and that this action lead to a confrontation which resulted in Zimmerman shooting Martin dead. If Zimmerman hadn`t have acted like an idiot vigilante there would have been no problem. Martin would be alive and well, Zimmerman would not be public enemy number 1, and we would not be having this debate.

paddy215 Male, 18-29, Europe 1549 Posts	Monday, March 26, 2012 3:18:56 PM "@Paddy: That's because the witness didn`t see that part." If he didn`t witness it then he`s not a drating witness!!

5Cats Male, 40-49, Canada 16991 Posts	Monday, March 26, 2012 3:04:33 PM But when one of you dies... It's a legal mess Yup, that`s for sure! But the idea is that an innocent person (who was only trying to survive) shouldn`t rot in jail for 6 month - 1 year waiting for trial, eh? They can still be charged though, so it`s not a "get out of jail free" law either. It`s mostly the call of the cops, and they called it Zimmerman`s way because that`s how the evidence pointed. This technical aspect of it seems cut & dried to me, but apparently causes confusion in others (Sharpton, Jackson & etc).

Altaru Male, 18-29, Eastern US 3498 Posts	Monday, March 26, 2012 12:07:44 PM M told his GF: "I'm not running" and his GF says M spoke first to Z (who was indeed following him). So it all comes back to who actually has the right to claim self-defense. See, now, before the whole Stand Your Ground thing came around, this case would have been cut and dry. It would have been M`s obligation to continue running and Z`s obligation to let him go, because under the previous laws you weren`t supposed to stand and fight if there was a way to escape. But suddenly, under the new laws, you can turn and challenge someone you feel is threatening you! But when one of you dies... It`s a legal mess. Because without any witnesses that saw the whole ordeal, we only have the testimony of the person who survived. And that`s never going to be biased. Of course someone who could go to jail for manslaughter and lose all his law-enforcement hopes and dreams wouldn`t try to cover his own ass.

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