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Barack Obama On Faith In The US [pic]

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Barack Obama On Faith In The US [pic]. I`ve said it once, Obama isn`t a great President. But he`s the best out there right now.
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Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2740 Posts
Monday, March 12, 2012 9:45:44 AM
@CrakrJak

Actually, CrakrJak, we might reach some common ground on this subject...maybe.

Could you begrudgingly accept that, whatever your complaints about the "lifestyle" of homosexuality, that allowing us to live lives that don't produce children so that you are unrestricted in your child-bearing choices is preferable to forcing us to live lives that we don`t want to live, produce children that we don`t want to have, and in turn lead to you being forced to not have children you do want to have?

That`s how it boils down; either I can be be free to be happy and childless and you can be free and happy to have children...or I can be forced into an unhappy child-bearing lifestyle, and you can be forced into an unhappy childless lifestyle (or we both have the children anyway, one happily, one not, and we all end up poor in an overpopulated future).

Long story short: why force me to have your kid?

verbosity
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 83 Posts
Saturday, March 10, 2012 8:20:47 PM
Always the point I make - so many push to have "faith" put "back" into the US Government, to legislate these "values". As they say, be careful what you wish for - for which faith will be the one making the laws?

Rick Santorum recently talked about how a speech by JFK made him want to vomit - but he fails to understand that many were afraid that JFK, as a Catholic, was going to be merely a mouthpiece for the Pope. This is why JFK so strongly asserted a separation of Church and State - so that a Lutherans, Mormons, Southern Baptists, and so forth wouldn't have to worry that the US presidency would create a Catholic state and force Catholic values upon the nation.

EgalM
Male, 30-39, Canada
 1710 Posts
Saturday, March 10, 2012 8:29:16 AM
Old testament is just the history leading to the new one. The new testament changed the way everything is to be done. I don't get why they keep bringing up the old to attack the new, it`s redundant.

aikiman
Male, 40-49, Europe
 255 Posts
Friday, March 9, 2012 4:28:20 AM
@Crakrjak:'I posed a question, not a statement of fact`. You equated homosexuality with eugenics. It`s your opinion I disagree with not the facts.

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2740 Posts
Friday, March 9, 2012 3:08:06 AM
@CrakrJak

Two people in love wanting to cement that relationship and build a family is the meaning of marriage, surely. Why does the gender of the two people matter?

To claim we would "trash" marriage if were given access to it is an insult to us.

Besides, we couldn't trash it any more than you straight people have, could we?

Have you ever been married, CrakrJak? You still refuse to answer. Divorced, perhaps? Or never married.

It really is a shame, being as old as you are and still haven`t met a soulmate, or married and then divorced, ruining that sanctity of marriage you`re always harping on about.

One of those two apply. We all know it. Because if you were married right now, you would have said so to support your authority on the subject.

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