Tuesday, December 13, 2011 12:45:09 PM
I completely get your point about helping those who need the help and not worrying about what group they belong to (be it gender/ethnicity/religion etc.).
But, like you also pointed out, I've seen a lot of crazy stuff in my life. It is my opinion that it is women that need the most help, I could be wrong about that.
I guess the only thing that bothered me about your arguments (with the exception of some misunderstandings) is your dismissiveness of how badly women do have it out there. Just because the media sensationalizes some things does not mean that there isn`t very real suffering out there. The suffering, death, rape and torture that women go through in some of these cultures makes it hard to go with the, "lets just help everyone equally" argument. Even if your objective is to help everyone, ignoring reality isn`t (in my opinion) the best way to go about it.
Tuesday, December 13, 2011 12:36:12 PM
I also realize that you don't want to go and teach farming or other things to men only because you feel you want to help everyone not just men or just women.
My only point repeating the farming thing was because I can only do so much. There needs to be a division of labour. So if I`m off helping the ladies, I have no problem with someone also helping the men. That isn`t discrimination, it`s just splitting up the work. It doesn`t even have to be men helping men, if a woman with good knowledge of agricultural practices wants to go and help out, I`d be delighted (I`m just not that woman, I do know a lot about health and pregnancy though). One of the jobs I did in Guyana was help with immunizing children. I didn`t just immunize the girls. I genuinely would like to see better health for the whole community.
Tuesday, December 13, 2011 12:30:36 PM
Making long comments on here is bloody annoying. :)
It seems to me that you contradict yourself a little and when I respond to that contradiction you say I'm making no sense.
For example, you wrote about speaking with real sexists (not the type of guy who makes bad jokes, but the type that gun down women in a gym or engineering class because they are so angry). It appeared to me that you were blaming their feelings/actions on women because, "sexism breeds sexism". My point was that these guys are the type of men who enjoy owning and probably abusing the women they own (who have absolutely no recourse but to be abused) and, I for one, will not go back to being owned just to avoid pissing these guys off (that was why I brought up the whole black/white slave thing).
Monday, December 12, 2011 11:29:22 PM
Gah, this bit was supposed to be in the post after the one I put it in:
Poverty causes burglary. That doesn't mean that that victims of burglary are to blame for being burgled by someone who`s poorer than they are. It means that more poverty means more burglary. But it`s still burglars who are responsible for burglary.
I`m writing >1000 character posts and then cutting and pasting into seperate posts. I got the cut point wrong.