Monday, November 28, 2011 6:27:59 AM
patchgrabber-"If corporations are people, then who goes to jail when they break the law or their practices kill people?"
The person(s) within the corporation who broke the law or who put the practices into place and carried them out.
Example: I ship hazardous materials for my corporation. If I ship something hazardous, but represent it as non-hazardous, and someone gets hurt/killed, who is held responsible? (for real word example, google 'ValuJet Flight 592`, where inproperly packaged and stored hazardous materials caused the death of 110 people)
Did the corporation (i.e. every single worker/manager/owner) break the law? No.
Who will go to jail? Me, as the person who presented it an non-hazardous. Also probably anyone who was supposed to double-check me. OSHA will also slap a huge fine on the company.
Friday, November 25, 2011 8:13:11 AM
MeGrendel: If corporations are people, then who goes to jail when they break the law or their practices kill people?
Friday, November 25, 2011 7:14:15 AM
He has a real point there.
At the same time, the professional middle classes, let's call them "The 33%", they can leave pretty much anytime they want.
Many have and many more will. That`ll leave the top 1% to feed off the bottom 63%, until that is they get fed up and go all Morlock vs Eloi on their masters.
We have to a large degree lost our freedom of speech, despite our own constitution. The US concept is important for two reasons. The first is as an archetype, a true freedom to which we can point our government and say "look, that is freedom of speech!". The second is that speech is now global. I can write and host in America, and be protected against prior restraint by the US constitution. That feeds back to my first point, putting pressure on our government and on the dying bureaucracy of he EU.
Friday, November 25, 2011 4:51:47 AM
its surprising that non-american people care and know so much about american politic more then their own. just saying