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The Trouble With The Electoral College

Is it time to abolish the Electoral College? Is this antiquated system still fair in a modern world?

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donax
Male, 30-39, Western US
 14 Posts
Saturday, November 12, 2011 3:05:46 PM
@Imnok1

Is a 97% success rate to low to be considered working.

Only 2 times has a president lost the popular vote and wont the electoral.

Cleveland lost his reelection bid and though he won the popular vote (the south) he lost the the electoral. only carried 18 states.

Gore had the popular vote by carrying the West coast, northeast and upper midwest. While bush carried the rest of the country.

The only improvement I could see would be to eliminate the actual electors and have the States popular vote count as a win and then just have a majority of the states. So it's a 1 state 1 vote thing, and say you have to carry 26 of the 50.

Just remember 97% of the time the electoral college votes with the popular vote.. I can`t even think of anything that has that success rate.

imnok1
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 5 Posts
Friday, November 11, 2011 10:27:47 AM
@donax i fail to see how some individuals' votes aren`t as important as others. please explain. and while you`re at it, why it would matter that "population centers" have more say? places with larger populations are still made up of individuals. it`s not like just because someone lives in florida, they`re going to vote republican. it sounds as if you`ve been looking at too many "red vs blue" maps and ignoring the gradient.

donax
Male, 30-39, Western US
 14 Posts
Friday, November 11, 2011 9:43:05 AM
@MeGrendel

instead of just reading the first sentence and then spouting off the same stuff why do you try to understand what people are saying.

I think the electoral college makes sense. I was stating that Gore won the popular vote, but the popular vote wasn't really representative of the entire country, which is why the founding fathers had the electoral college because they knew that population centers would have more say that rural states and that rural states needed a way to have a say in elections.

And actually Gore won the popular vote has EVERYTHING to do with how presidents are elected. Get off your high horse and stop assuming everyone to be ignorant

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 3642 Posts
Thursday, November 10, 2011 3:31:35 PM
donax-"Gore won the popular vote correct?"

He also invented the internet.

And what do these two statements have in common?

NEITHER one has anything to do with the way the United States elects the President.

Please see Article II, Section 1, Clauses 2, 3, & 4 and the 23rd Amendment of the Constitution of the United States. This will instruct you on how the President is electted.

If you don't like that, then you can attempt to get the process changed as outlined in Article V of the Constitution of the United States & Title 1, United State Code, Section 106b.

Anything else is just whining and annoying.

The fact that he won the popular vote, invented the internet and thinks the Earth `has....a....fever` means exactly jack. (of course, it pretty much sums up he can`t get ANY thing right.)

donax
Male, 30-39, Western US
 14 Posts
Thursday, November 10, 2011 8:59:31 AM
This is why

Gore won the popular vote correct?

http://tinyurl.com/7gj8xrj

Is the states he carried more or less representative of the entire country?


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