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A Faster-Than-Light Particle Discovered?

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A Faster-Than-Light Particle Discovered?
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Scientists may have discovered a faster than light particle which may under cut all of modern physics. Science FTW!!
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Hits: 12215 | Favorites: 2 | Emailed: 0 | Rating: 3.4 | Category: Science | Date: 09/23/2011
 
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Thonious
Male, 40-49, Western US
 952 Posts
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 6:48:55 AM
It took me a long time to get my copy of the Fleismhmann-Pons paper on cold fusion in 1989 and when I did, it had been copied and faxed so may times it was almost unreadable. They published in an obscure Swedish journal.

The actual CERN Neutrino paper can be read at:
Measurement of the neutrino velocity with the OPERA detector in the CNGS beam

Crizzy777
Male, 18-29, Europe
 111 Posts
Monday, September 26, 2011 11:14:59 AM
Damn! So the flash soon calls his super-speed high-five just the "neutrino-five"... How lame -_-'

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11645 Posts
Sunday, September 25, 2011 11:33:45 PM
Also, if they had mistakenly somehow used the distance on the surface of the Earth (how?), the figures would be out by a huge amount, far more than 60ns.

There are some possible mistakes, e.g. flawed statistical analysis of the results.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11645 Posts
Sunday, September 25, 2011 11:24:29 PM
I think the most sensible thing to do is speculate on how they might have screwed this up.


Which they've been doing for a while. They didn`t find anything. Now it`s open for anyone to test. Nobody else has good enough equipment yet, but they will soon.

[quote]Maybe that 454 mile figure they used was the distance along the surface of the planet, not the point to point distance between the two locations[/quote]

They measured the distance to an accuracy of +- 10cm. It took months. They were able to measure the movement of tectonic plates. They couldn`t have made such an obvious mistake without even noticing when checking the results for months on end.

[quote]maybe [..] previous experiments had the neutrinos traveling ever so slightly slower than the speed of light[/quote]

It was a shorter time than would be taken by an object travelling at c, not a shorter time than some other neutrinos.

intrigid
Male, 18-29, Canada
 916 Posts
Sunday, September 25, 2011 6:40:16 PM
Before everyone cums in their pants over this, I think the most sensible thing to do is speculate on how they might have screwed this up. Maybe that 454 mile figure they used was the distance along the surface of the planet, not the point to point distance between the two locations which would obviously be slightly less. And maybe the reason it took 60 nanoseconds less than they expected was that previous experiments had the neutrinos traveling ever so slightly slower than the speed of light because of Earth's conditions between the two points or the way the neutrinos were fired.

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