Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:43:58 PM
bob, the burden of proof lies in the affirmative. If you make an accusation, it is up to you to prove it. If you can't, it is fair to assume that you never had any proof. No one is EVER required to prove his innocence.
And regarding your sources, I don`t think all 5 "misheard" the show; more likely one of them lied about it, and the others are all repeating the same lie. Original source, or it didn`t happen.
Regarding destroying evidence, how about this:
"Can you delete any emails you may have had with Keith re AR4? Keith will do likewise. He`s not in at the moment - minor family crisis. Can you also email Gene and get him to do the same? I don`t have his new email address. We will be getting Caspar to do likewise." [Jones: CRU email1212073451.txt May 29, 2008]
Oh, and this isn`t a baseless accusation from some anonymous blogger fapping in his mom`s basement. These actually are their own words.
Wednesday, October 20, 2010 9:36:33 PM
That's my point. How can you prove they KNEW that there was no evidence? Without mindreading, you can`t. Therefore the "it may have just been a mistake" defence is equally valid.
And regarding my source - you don`t have to trust it. Here, let me Google it for you. Unless you think all 5 of those top hits misheard the show, then that`s more than enough evidence that he said what my source claimed. In which case, I was right. Again.
And how can you know they destroyed evidence? If they destroyed it, then there would have been nothing there. You can`t point at an empty desk and say "see, this is proof they destroy evidence".
Monday, October 18, 2010 10:54:01 PM
bob, the "OldOllieDefence" doesn't work for defending the DNC. They KNEW that there was NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER to support their slander. It`s as if I called you a child molester, and then challenged you to disprove the charge. That`s EXACTLY what the DNC did to the C of C.
And regarding the 5th charge, once a source like yours has been thoroughly discredited, I can no longer take their accusations seriously. I`m going to have to see the entire unedited segment of the show when Beck talked about this. For all I know, he DID describe the poll accurately, and these dickholes are lying about what he said. Their word is no good with me, so I won`t bother to refute their accusations.
It`s just like davey`s graph of temperature data. The Climategate emails proved that data were falsified. We know they cherry-picked data to support their preconceived conclusion, excluded contradictory data, and destroyed the evidence, so you can`t trust ANYTHING they say.
Monday, October 18, 2010 5:29:46 AM
vv My point (and I do have one) is that NO ONE in the MSM asked about Obama's religious beliefs, but spent many MANY hours complaining and attacking Palin over hers. In fact the MSM `reporters` conspired to hide unsavory facts about Obama, deliberatly smearing his opponents with lies.
Conservatives (and Yes I speak for all of us /sarc) believe child molesters should be put down like rabid dogs. It`s LIBERALS who think they should be `rehabilitated` and such.
The Catholic Church has a lot to answer for. Sheltering and protecting known child molesters is immoral (and illegal!) and heads should roll for doing so.