Monday, August 9, 2010 1:36:42 PM
[quote"> You might counter with homeless shelters and hospitals set up as charities, but those were almost always funded by religion which was funded by taxes. So that doesn't work in your "ideal" society either.[/quote">
Just so you know, charities are more efficient than state welfare. Charities have to compete for the customer (donor), state welfare does not. How to help the poor.
Monday, August 9, 2010 1:35:00 PM
Many people would not have shoes because they couldn't afford them, or they would have to improvise their own. This too is born out by history. Likewise, people would provide mercenaries (the closest you can get to police without government), fire fighters, schools, etc...to the minority who could afford to pay highly for them. Everyone else can go die in a ditch. I`ve already given you a historical example of how a private firefighting service works - Crassus. They’re not that expensive. Even starving people in Africa have some cloths. Not to mention they would have more money if they were not taxed and if they were allow to compete. Which they have a hard time doing because of barriers to entry. Everyone can afford these this because of how easy it is to get a job in a free market. Prices will go down and down until only the most efficient businesses remain.
Monday, August 9, 2010 1:34:27 PM
“August 08, 2010 7:58:04 PM” Again, you’re not presenting an argument. It’s the equivalent of a Christian using the bible as an argument. Don’t bring up history that can be seen as incomplete, make a logical argument.
Monday, August 9, 2010 1:33:32 PM
Again, that runs contrary to all of history. Under your system, what you get is even poorer people working for even richer people. Or dying, because of course there wouldn't be any health and safety laws either.
You have an idealised image that has been repeatedly shown to be wrong. Consider, for example, the Peasant`s Revolt in England in 1381. Your constant turning to history is the equivalent of a Christian using the bible as an argument. Counter what I have to say with your prediction on how it can go wrong instead of using history that the state made you believe. (remember the same business has a monopoly on school education. Don’t you think if you had a monopoly on education you would advertise to yourself?) Besides, the Peasants wanted a reduced tax rate and not the abolishment of taxation.