Thursday, July 8, 2010 12:10:11 AM
I'm not denying the existence of the Iroquois confederacy. All I`m saying is that the term `illegal immigrant` in this context is totally misleading at best. Even you pointed out that the natives didn`t treat them as illegals (maybe not as we do today) and didn`t consider them an enemy until it was too late.
To your second point, yes, such a debate is a waste of time. But the problem with the legal route is that it is such a complex bureaucracy that seems to be more of an iron curtain to keep poor people out who want to better themselves, or on rarer occasions escape the oppressive governments of the nations they come from. Unfortunately a significant portion of Americans see these people as invaders when in reality they aren`t. For most of these people the only law they`ve broken is immigration. They haven`t stolen anything, they haven`t killed anyone, they simply entered the country illegally.
they showed the pilgrims (invaders in all right) hospitality and even helped them in many ways become the nation we are today.
that is really an argument that means nothing to our current situation though. whats wrong with providing a timeframe where they must register for temporary status, all those who do not apply or are detained will be automatically deported. that gives everyone a fair chance.
Wednesday, July 7, 2010 8:18:57 PM
@oceanbeast In regards to the "illegals in America" assertion #2, take this with a grain of salt. By the time the pilgrims or other settlers landed they came from societies where the governments new that world was round and had different entities governing the various portions of land they mapped out. Whereas the natives were only aware what was happening in and around the regions they occupied let alone the entire continent. After some time commerce was established between the natives and the settlers, and not too long after war broke out. Even so, I would find it hard to for the natives to call the settlers "illegal immigrants" even though they were their enemies.