Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:36:22 AM
I enjoyed our talk. To be clear about the two mischaracterizations: I never claimed to have all the answers, I do claim to know that the Bible is mostly fantasy. I do not condemn people who disagree with me, I condemn people that have dangerous ideas.
As for pui, I have a fair amount of respect for her. She seems quite intelligent and does think for herself. I only wish she could see the dangerous course we've set upon. I think if she did see it, she would be a great help in finding a compromise between our two opposing views where everybody wins. I do not for a minute suggest that that compromise would involve destroying the Christian church or the morals that she lives by. I do not, however, see a way forward that does not involve letting go of the idea that the Bible is the inerrant word of God.
Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:19:55 AM
Mischaracterized you? Have you read some of your comments below? Anyway, I will agree with you. I agree Fudamentalists are the issue, but not everyone who classes themselves as a christian votes republican you know. Just as not everyone who is a Muslim carries round an AK-47. Not all scientists have the right answers too. Thats why experiments and studies keep being done despite countless books being published in many fields of science previously. To say they call it the truth then attempt to say the same thing about science when science is still progressive is slightly ignorant and a little arrogant. Only when scientists stop and say, "right thats it, we've figured out everything there is to know and by the way, there is no God" will your argument be valid. I`m off now, my shift is over. Catch you next time dude, seriously no hard feelings. Good debate. :)
Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:48:44 AM
I don't condemn people who have different views. I haven`t condemned you. I respect opposing views and I enjoy listening to people who do not agree with me; I learn from it. But I draw the line at dangerous ideas, which Christianity has become. The teachings of Jesus are good, for the most part, and I applaud them. pui wants to follow the teachings of Jesus, great! I take issue with the Bible being presented as truth when it results in potentially devastating government policy.
I don`t view moderate Christians as the culprit, but I do view them as accomplices. The dangerous policies enacted by the extremists can only be accomplished with the support of the moderates. I don`t have another answer to this problem. In my eyes this all begins with moderate Christians sacrificing truth for their own comfort which endangers us all.
You`ve mischaracterized me twice. You don`t need to agree with me, but at least take better aim.
Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:18:26 AM
You seem to be mixing up fudamentalist (note the use of mentalist in that description) Christians with what the teachings of Christ were all about. I never said it was the truth. The bible wasn't written until many years after Jesus was supposed to have lived. Not all Christians take the bible as a set of rules either. Don`t tar everyone with the same brush! For the record I`m not a Christian but how you are attacking people that are makes you worse than the Fundies you hate. Condemming people who`s views are different to your own is just as bad as thumping a bible. Ramming your ideas down peoples thoats is never a good way to go about things.