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xXKaryXx Female, 13-17, Western US 640 Posts	Tuesday, May 4, 2010 8:57:23 AM if my grandpa hadn't hidden in that truck that delivered oranges the rich guys over here wouldn`t have had a million dollar house to live in D:<

AnarchistGod Male, 70 & Over, Midwest US 894 Posts	Monday, May 3, 2010 10:28:52 AM @cuthere2 Also, you seem to have failed economics 101 - You call being in this country illegally victomless, yet you ignore (Yet again) the financial impact this has on Citizens Looks like someone failed debating 101. Know your opponent. I already told you this, but I guess I'll say it again because you brought it up again. (maybe you forgot, maybe you`re stupid) I`m an anarchist. Do anarchists advocate taxes? No. Do anarchists advocate citizenship? No. So why are you using this argument against me? Sure it can work against some stupid liberal, but I`m not some stupid liberal. If there was no citizenship or taxes this wouldn`t be a problem in the first place now would it. I already told you this in my comment on "May 01, 2010 1:54:52 PM". [quote]SIGH - Honestly. Please, please, PLEASE try to not just read, but actually COMPREHEND what is being said.[/quote] I can taste the irony.

AnarchistGod Male, 70 & Over, Midwest US 894 Posts	Monday, May 3, 2010 10:20:05 AM @cuthere2 If bypassing our countries laws and sneaking into our country means that individuals cannot be properly screened, and thus murders, rapists, etc. are stealing into our country, it is no longer a victimless crime. A mexican kills another mexican in Mexico. That's a crime with a victim. That same killers sneaks in America. That`s still a victimless crime despite the fact that he`s a killer. [quote]If we had secured boarders, and made it more difficult for criminals to get in, then we`d have lower crime rates now wouldn`t we? Not victomless.[/quote] Yeah, you could totally argue that, but you can`t say that we should socialize protection because socialism sucks and doesn`t work.

cuthere2 Male, 30-39, Midwest US 249 Posts	Monday, May 3, 2010 7:10:17 AM Also, you seem to have failed economics 101 - You call being in this country illegally victomless, yet you ignore (Yet again) the financial impact this has on Citizens. Millions of people sneaking over, taking advantage of our tax payer funded services? Many are paid under the table, so they pay no taxes. Hmmmm - Let's see: Millions taking, taking, taking - whilst not paying into the system = not good. (Just keeping it simple for ya bud) Victims - Crushing financial burdens supporting dozens of programs that are being abused by the entitlement mentality that is often carried over by these criminals. So we have now identified: Sex crimes - Theft - Violence - Gang violence - Drugs - Increased tax burdens on law abiding citizens. All of this could be greatly minimized by proper screening and security.

cuthere2 Male, 30-39, Midwest US 249 Posts	Monday, May 3, 2010 7:05:10 AM SIGH - Honestly. Please, please, PLEASE try to not just read, but actually COMPREHEND what is being said. I cannot imagine why I would need to explain such a blatantly obvious statement as "you call it a victimless crime". Guess I'll have to get used to spelling things out for you: - You claimed that being here illegally is a victimless crime. Remember that? Good job, let`s continue whilst we have momentum. If bypassing our countries laws and sneaking into our country means that individuals cannot be properly screened, and thus murders, rapists, etc. are stealing into our country, it is no longer a victimless crime. You could argue that many are not criminals, and thus it`s victimless, but hey, this is the real world Anarchist, and criminals are a fact of life. If we had secured boarders, and made it more difficult for criminals to get in, then we`d have lower crime rates now wouldn`t we? Not victomless.

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