Friday, April 9, 2010 12:08:34 PM
Netherlands vs USA.
On Health: Doctors per 1000 people; 3.9 vs 2.5 Hospital beds per 1000 people; 4.5 vs 3.1 Average life expectancy; 80.2 vs 78.1 Child mortalily per 1000 live births; 4.1 vs 6.7 Total annual expenditure on healthcare per person; $3837 vs $7290.
Now, on "Freedoms": Decriminalised soft drugs; Yes, No Same sex marriage allowed; Yes, No. Legal age to buy alcohol: 16, 21. Legal to incarcerate people without charge or trial indefinitely; No, Yes. Government allowed to search telephone, e-mail communications etc; No, yes.
And finally, on "sucky places to live" the Netherlands is the 6th best country in the world in which to live, the US is 13th, based on the UN Human Development Index 2009.
Now, wanna address any of those facts, or are you just goiing to retort with another spiel of nationalistic hyperbole?
Friday, April 9, 2010 12:08:20 PM
vv "Yes. A Nanny State raises life expectancy, at the expense of freedom. I don't want my life to suck, just so I can add another 2 or 3 years onto the end of it."
Oh auburn. Where do you come up with this bullpoo? You`re going to make me use those pesky "facts" again, ainctcha? OK, let`s roll. Let`s compare the Netherlands where I lived for many years with the US. The Netherlands would be what you call a Nanny State, which has less freedom than the US and is a sucky place to live. OK, let`s roll. All stats from OECD and the UN.