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Gay Guys Make a Good Point About Gay Marriage [Pic

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Gay Guys Make a Good Point About Gay Marriage [Pic. And it`s pointed directly at wacko right-wing fundie parents.
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Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10283 Posts
Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:28:26 PM
I don't quite understand where this slogan comes from either.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10283 Posts
Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:24:41 PM
Weren't there gay marriages in an ancient Chinese province?

npdarren
Male, 18-29, Western US
 603 Posts
Wednesday, December 9, 2009 9:17:28 PM
"what do you want - the rights or the word? Right now, it is one or the other. I'll have the rights. I think they`re more important than a word."

My personal belief is that if there is any discontinuity in equal rights whatsoever, than that is not okay. Even if it is just a word, barring someone from it is discrimination no matter how you look at it. If I were gay, I probably wouldn`t care about the word itself, but rather just knowing that I wasn`t being discriminated against regardless of how small or trivial that discrimination was.


Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11515 Posts
Wednesday, December 9, 2009 4:24:41 PM
Even if I am wrong about the romans, it certainly doesn't completely negate my argument about the rest of human society previously mentioned.

I was arguing about *marriage* and *ancient Rome*. Nothing else.

[quote]we should be educated enough to treat the LGBT community as equals who deserve all the same rights as everybody else, including marriage. [/quote]

I disagree with some of the assumptions implicit in that statement.

Claiming that anyone who disagrees with you for any reason must be uneducated is unreasonable.

`the LGBT community`....bleh. We`re not all similar enough for there to be a single community. It`s just defining people by one actually rather unimportant aspect of them, and that gets on my tits.

[quote]all the same rights as everybody else, including marriage.[/quote]

what do you want - the rights or the word? Right now, it is one or the other. I`ll have the rights. I think they`re more important than a word.


Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11515 Posts
Wednesday, December 9, 2009 4:18:03 PM
Ceasar was not mocked for his homosexuality.

It's worth mentioning here that the Romans didn`t even have a word for "homosexual", which shows how different their views were.

Caesar was mocked for his affair with the King of Bythnia. For some while, he was best known for that and for being spectacularly in debt (which he was also mocked for).

Homosexual anal sex was seen quite differently in Rome depending on whether you were giving or receiving. It wasn`t as clear-cut as you think it was.

[quote]BUT same sex marriage happened.[/quote]

Apparently only with two emperors, both of whom were way out of the norm and both of whom were assassinated.

Many Romans were actively bisexual, although they didn`t have a word for that either. It was traditionally considered unsuitably passive for a man past his youth to be penetrated, but Caesar only got seriously mocked for it because of his high profile public image and show of tradtionalism.

*Marriage* is an


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