Wednesday, December 9, 2009 9:17:28 PM
"what do you want - the rights or the word? Right now, it is one or the other. I'll have the rights. I think they`re more important than a word."
My personal belief is that if there is any discontinuity in equal rights whatsoever, than that is not okay. Even if it is just a word, barring someone from it is discrimination no matter how you look at it. If I were gay, I probably wouldn`t care about the word itself, but rather just knowing that I wasn`t being discriminated against regardless of how small or trivial that discrimination was.
Wednesday, December 9, 2009 4:18:03 PM
Ceasar was not mocked for his homosexuality.
It's worth mentioning here that the Romans didn`t even have a word for "homosexual", which shows how different their views were.
Caesar was mocked for his affair with the King of Bythnia. For some while, he was best known for that and for being spectacularly in debt (which he was also mocked for).
Homosexual anal sex was seen quite differently in Rome depending on whether you were giving or receiving. It wasn`t as clear-cut as you think it was.
[quote]BUT same sex marriage happened.[/quote]
Apparently only with two emperors, both of whom were way out of the norm and both of whom were assassinated.
Many Romans were actively bisexual, although they didn`t have a word for that either. It was traditionally considered unsuitably passive for a man past his youth to be penetrated, but Caesar only got seriously mocked for it because of his high profile public image and show of tradtionalism.