Monday, October 13, 2008 6:47:46 PM
Overmann, that was so beautifully stated! Dude, I hope to argue with you in the future. haha.. Debate only makes one stronger in his/her faith, or allow them to question it, and is so very important. Jesus calls himself a Shepard, but that doesn't necessarily mean he wants blind sheep as followers!
Monday, October 13, 2008 6:40:11 PM
"do you like your beliefs messed with? no? THEN SHUT THE F*CK UP THEN!"
I vehemently disagree. I may not like people trying with all their might to mock my beliefs (or lack of them), but do I hate them for that? Would I prefer them silenced or arrested for expressing criticism? No. And why? Because I would hope and expect them to allow me the same courtesy, neither of which I could realistically do without giving them their space. I am not going out of my way to insult the person, but if I feel what they believe is irrational, I should be able to say so. Disrespecting religious belief is not the same as disrespecting a person's right to believe, which I certainly do not do. And if it seems unusual to you that one should feel compelled to disrespect religious belief (by shielding it from honest criticism, which seems terribly childish to me), let me remind you that there are many other beliefs we openly disrespect, such as racism or sexism.
Monday, October 13, 2008 6:33:06 PM
Perhaps I am a bit confused on the terminology, as it all seems so negative to me. I guess it might help to state my view: I do believe in the Creator, and I do believe in some things I have studied in science.. most specifically evolution. I do not believe in young earth, nor do I believe in the earth being trillions of years old. I think there is good data to support that.. (magnetic fields, erosion, ect.. ) I don't think earth is quite as young as most creationist say, but not quite as old as most scientists say either. I think natural selection does take place, but not to the point of speciation (that is to say that species evolve enough that they can`t breed with one another.. when talking about large scale animals, bacteria and plants are a different story, in which case I think it can happen.) I don`t think everything came from one common ancestor in short. I do think things evolve in the sense on minor changes, not major ones. I don`t think for example a cat can become a bear.