Wednesday, November 19, 2008 12:20:39 PM
a7xbass, the only reason why most of the world hates the US isn't because of your economy or wealth or whatever. It is just because you can`t stop yourself walking with your army in other people`s country to dictate your views. And this is far from being always the right attitude. This isn`t something new that came up with Bush Jr.
If more people had proper education in the US, election results would probably be very different. You have no idea how the world laugh at your presidential campaign. Problem is that it is a short and sad laugh, because consequences never fails to follow.
Again, don`t get me wrong. The US is a great country, but most of its people did not receive a proper education that allow them to think by themself. When you can`t think, someone else do it for you at his advantage. And this has happened for decades... US talking about freedom is just like Saddam talking about human rights, pathetic.
Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:22:31 PM
Freshmint, you have a point with Saudi Arabia, and I'm not denying the oil factor in the Iraq war, but if the U.S. is out fighting the wrong region, and the rest of the world hates us so much, why hasn`t the U.S. been attacked in the last seven years. You can`t say no one wants to, because as long as Islam is a major religion, there will be the radical conservative Muslim muhajideen that believe their jihad is to sacrifice themselves to punish the U.S., and face it, it is much easier to get away with terrorism in Iraq, even if most radicals are in Saudi Arabia. It`s undisputed that Iraq has been one of the world`s largest terrorist havens, and thats where the threat was coming from after 2001, so thats where we are going after them. And I`m not saying we are arresting terrorists, but if they are in hiding they can`t hurt us and the second we leave Iraq will be the perfect place for radical groups. And they will not be coming after your country. It will be mine.
Tuesday, September 16, 2008 5:17:28 PM
a7xbass, with all my respect what terrorist got jailed from invading Iraq? Afghanisthan fair enough, but Iraq... c'mon!
You invade their country, they defend themselves. Terrorist or resistant is just a matter of point of view, History will decide. But these guys aint threatening any American at home, they just want your troops out of theirs.
However, this is giving plenty of reasons (good or bad, I am not judging anything) to all extremist around to world to plot against the US.
So no, the war in Iraq doesnt make anybody safer in the US. And the bottom line is that most of intelligence around the world agree to say that the main nest of terrorist threats seats in Arabi Saudia. They are also the only one to be able to fund terrorist actions, do you really think Saddam had the money to raise Islamic armys? No, he couldn`t even afford firepower for his own official army.
But hey, you need Saudi Arabia`s oil don`t you... And your governement perfectly knows that.
Tuesday, September 16, 2008 4:13:13 PM
Freshmint, this is not a war on the Iraqi people. This is a war on terrorism, and the whole world thought Osama was a ghost from the past until the World Trade Center was burning. That's why both the Bush and Clinton administrations overlooked the evidence of the future attacks.
Iraq is the perfect terrorist haven. It had little to know border security, a weak national government, and geographically easy for radical terrorist organizations to hide in. There was little to know doubt these groups existed in Iraq. I agree with you that the U.S. federal government is hypocritical in saying they are there to defend the Iraqi people and give them a better life, but what we did was send the radical terrorists into hiding from us, which has prevented them from attacking us again. That is why as an an American I feel safer that we are in Iraq. America will be hated by some no matter what, we are over there making sure no one acts on that hatred.
Tuesday, September 16, 2008 10:20:48 AM
a7xbass, Iraq did not assault the US for a simple reason - they just had no way to do it. Best proof is the ridiculously poor resistance your troops faced with Iraq's army, completely outnumbered, and with no proper equipment or vehicules (couple of tanks and 1 copter...). There is not much wonder why Bush`s governement entered country... And `free` Iraq is certainly not on the top of the list, most of the veterans agree with that.
I don`t mean Iraq was a `free` country, but certainly the people can`t justify your action. They did not ask for anything from the US or anybody else. And clearly, US troops are not ultimately there to help on rebuilding Iraq.
Again, US is policing the world. No wonder why those guys burn US flags... Not that I support that, in any way, but I can understand why. If you give someone all the reasons to hate you, you can`t be surprised he end hating you.
Not to mention that the US created Bin Laden, just a ghost from the past...