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Gaza Rocket Launch Locations [Pic]

Lets talk civilian casualties in the Israeli vs. Hamas conflict.


You're a LCpl in the USMC.

You're on patrol in some Middle Eastern country. You don't care about the politics or the controversy. The only thing you care about is getting home alive (hopefully in one piece) and making sure all of your buddies do too.

Suddenly out of nowhere you start taking fire from one of the few Christian churches in the region.

Do you.....

A. Return fire, assured in the fact that senior leadership will have your back because the enemy chose to make a place of worship a fortification and a legitamite target? Or....

B. Sit there and do nothing while your buddies die all around you...because its a place of worship?

Expand that to a "nation state". What do you do when the enemy has militarized every Mosque, hospital, school, UN facility, residence etc....

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HAMAS HAS DONE!

Check out the image above. How do you target only military installations when the entire area they control has been converted into a military installation? You accept the reality of the situation and act accordingly. Hamas has chosen to place its people in harms way.

The Israeli's have accepted another cease fire. That's unfortunate.How do you lower civilian casualties in this war? You finish the job as rapidly as possible. The cease fire works against that.

Well that didn't last long.

Israel accepts a ceasefire (the same one I was railing against) and what does Hamas do? They launch an ambush and kidnap/kill Israeli soldiers. AMAZING! How can they get so slack in their force protection measures? This is not the Israeli military that I know!

Shows where the 2,900 rockets have been fired from. Hamas chose those launch sites on purpose.

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5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 28544 Posts
Monday, August 3, 2015 2:49:10 PM
Co-existed peacefully?
Under the Ottoman: NO Jews were allowed to immigrate. ZERO.
ALL non-Muslims where "Dhimmi" and thus second-class at best.

Under Britain? NO JEWS were allowed to immigrate! The Brits "played off" Muslims and Jews so they'd fight each other, just like EVERY BRITISH COLONY EVER, duh?

"Palestine" was a huge area, NOT a nation. It used to be called "Judea" too... same land.

To claim the 67 borders are "the only" ones is STUPID. Plain and simple.

The PLO was offered HUGE tracts of land and TONS of freedoms, and they rejected it.
Why?
Again I remind y`all:

"Palestine" includes ALL OF ISRAEL. So until EVERY JEW is driven out of Palestine? They will never make peace. Period.

It`s right there in writing! Duh?

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 28544 Posts
Monday, August 3, 2015 2:41:45 PM
A Year Later:

The rockets have slowed, probably because: Israel's blockade is working!

Hamas`s membership is all former PLO members, who were p*ssed off that the PLO wasn`t EXREME ENOUGH! Various "splinter groups" coalesced into Hamas/Fatah. I`m not sure when those two split up, but they used to be one group.
To claim "Hamas didn`t exist" is like saying NOTHING THE USA DID before 2008 has any bearing on Obama`s presidency! Because HE wasn`t the President!
See how silly that is?

Meanwhile: The Jews "drove out" Palis buy BUYING THEIR LAND at a much higher than market price! How TERRIBLE! Giving them good money for crappy land, voluntarily accepted!

it is Hamas which MURDERS those who sell to Jews, NOT the other way around.

Exceptions may exist? But the 90/10 rule applies here...

And "settlements" are allowed to grow under UN Rules! NO ONE complains when Palis expand THEIR "dis

paperduck
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1725 Posts
Tuesday, August 5, 2014 6:10:23 AM
@OldOllie umm Hamas didn't exist back then so... There was no charter. Jews, Muslims and Christians coexisted peacefully until Israel`s Jewish exclusivity came on the scene. The only thing that has failed is your capacity to comprehend.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 15860 Posts
Monday, August 4, 2014 11:46:56 PM
@paperduck Also, our constitution doesn't call for the extermination of Mexicans, either. That makes your analogy a rare TRIPLE fail!

paperduck
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1725 Posts
Monday, August 4, 2014 8:36:33 PM
@5cats thanks for making my point even more clear. If Jews arrived from Europe to Palestine without the intention of driving out Arabs from the towns and cities with terror groups like Irgun and Haganah, there would only be a problem of immigration similar to Mexicans coming to the US and not genocide.

If Mexicans were arriving to the US, driving out Americans in a "Mexification" plan, where Americans are relegated to occupation and checkpoints all over your own neighborhoods, you and OldOllie would be singing a different tune.

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