The Rise Of The "Crisis Actor" Conspiracy Movement

Submitted by: fancylad 5 months ago in News & Politics


Over the past 10 years, a growing online community of conspiracy theorists and hoaxers known as “truthers” have come to question the official narratives behind every mass shooting that is heavily covered by the media. 

A common thread in these theories is the government’s role in staging the tragedy with the help of mainstream news, in order to manipulate the general population. In this continuously recycled narrative, the death and destruction of the tragic event is faked, and victims and their families are “crisis actors,” who are performing a role in order to elicit sympathy that can then be used to advocate for new gun laws, or anti-terror surveillance that restricts Americans’ freedom. 

The commitment to these narratives has escalated to the point where victims are frequently harassed, mocked, and even threatened in retaliation for their supposed deception.
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Male 67
OK, this is really easy to disprove. Let's take Sandy Hook for example since that is a big one for the conspiracy theorists. The shooting was responded to by the local police first. The victims were taken to the closest medical facilities and treated by their staff. Not only would the doctors and nurses be aware of what was going on but I guarantee you everyone from the ER receptionists down to the janitors knew what was going on. If Sandy Hook was faked and everyone was a crisis actor, then how come no one from the local police, hospital, etc. has come forward to some tabloid or talk show and said "Hey, I was in Sandy Hook that day and I can tell you that nothing happened?" I am sure they could make a small fortune going on 60 Minutes or 20/20. And don't give me the MSM argument because they could also go to Fox.
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Male 635
drwhowho And what exactly happened after anyways.  Nothing changed.
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Male 2,591
The problem with this theory is that how many people do you have to keep quiet about it.
  It's like the 9/11, and moon hoxes. To many people to keep quiet.
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Male 1,782
Scum, all of them. If they hate this country so much they should leave.
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Male 226
these people are sick in the head. i sure hope i never have a friend or family member murdered in a shooting or terrorist event, because if i ever had one of these "truthers" try to harass me like i saw in this video, i think i would pull out my glock and put two in their head
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Male 6,695
jarred That would make sense.  To tell a man his daughter was not killed because you do not see proof is fucking evil.
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Male 226
daegog its only a matter of time before one of these truther asshats harasses the wrong person and gets shot in the face. im honestly surprised it hasnt happened yet. 

i lost a younger brother to a car accident 10 years ago, and everyone was very gracious and caring. if someone in the crowd had come up to me to spout some nonsense there is no doubt i would have fucked them up on the spot
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Male 9,338
Did I just watch a video about 747Pilot?


Side note I love how they call themselves "independent journalists".  Let's call them what they are, batshit crazy people that shouldn't be able to own any weapons.  Although this does exactly what you should do, you LET THEM talk, let them expose themselves as the idiots they are.  Have to hope the other people aren't as stupid as these people are.  These are the same people that cry "fake news" all day and let's be honest they are Trump supporters.  
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Female 8,436
These people are a disgrace, a stain on humanity. There are very few words strong enough to descibe them - I wonder what happened to them to turn them in to such arseholes?
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Male 9,888
While I consider the conspiracy theory to be bullshit, he is correct in that there are "crisis actors" looking to cash in on any tragedy, and Hogg is a prime example.  And many times their actions are buoyed by political action organizations. 


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Male 12,222
megrendel exactly, it's written all over his face "im in this for myself".  I could see it right from the start.
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Male 226
megrendel ooookayyy, damn bro, you can be so level headed in debates on this site and then all of a sudden you post something like this. ever stop to consider these kids were happy because they were being heard and taken seriously?

dude this post of yours makes me sick
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Male 9,888
jarred kids were happy because they were being heard and taken seriously?

Or, because, they're riding their victimhood for all it's worth.

Just because they're kids, and in a bad situation, does not exempt them from criticism.  I will respect their privacy as long as they remain private.

Once they voluntarily entered the political arena, they open themselves up for any criticism over anything they may say. 
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Male 226
megrendel fair enough megrendel, however i dont think having a moment of levity in a time of tragedy makes them fake at all. if it were me, i would be happy and smiling because i am trying to do something positive in the name of the friends i had lost, because now they are dead and cannot speak up themselves
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Male 676
megrendel I'm with megrendel on this one
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Male 6,695
megrendel This is obfuscation.  When you use crisis actor in reference to david hogg, then you have been infected by the madness of people like Alex Jones.

There are people who do cash in on any tragedy, typically they are politicians.  But when you use that term with regards to sandy hook or parkland shootings it is not the same, the STANDARD concept of crisis actor is a fake sent in by the government (deep state?) to pretend a shooting happened.

It might be fair to say that David Hogg will run for office one day, dunno, but calling him a crisis actor, while trying to change the definition of the word to make it more palatable to middle of the road conservatives is dishonest.
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Male 213
daegog I don't think he is a crisis actor. I think he is a young man that has wanted to be a journalist since before this happened. Then he decided to try and get a story from it to help his career. (which is not a bad thing) He was then seen by the anti gun-anti trump organizers and has been used like a garden ho since. He is not a bad kid, just listening to the wrong people.
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Male 9,888
daegog I see where the concept of a crisis actor being specific to a fake event evolved from, as the term originated as a actor who portrays a victim in an emergency drill or simulation.  (I've done makeup for simulations (aka 'moulage') and it's a lot of fun.)

Which is why I used quotation marks (" ").  He is not a crisis actor, but he is one who is cashing in on his victimhood.

I still find it hilarious, and more than hypocritical, that David Hogg can keep a straight face about calling for the infringement of 2nd Amendment rights (at least, for those between the ages of 18 & 21), but screams about his 1st Amendment rights be infringed because he has to carry a clear backpack. 
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Female 6,127
megrendel and the most hysterical part?  Its the FOURTH amend that protects against illegal search/seizure, NOT the first... stay in school, skippy!
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Male 1,782
megrendel I'm going to read that back to you. The shooting victim is "cashing in on his victimhood" according to you.
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Male 9,888
marsii The shooting victim is 

Oh? Where was Hogg shot?  Missed that report.
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Male 1,782
megrendel This explains so much about NRA members. I guess you can just shoot at people and there are no victims until you hit someone. The word you are looking for is casualty. Victims of crimes or terror don't need to die to lose something of value.
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Male 9,888
marsii This explains so much about NRA members.

Wouldn't know. I'm not an NRA member. 

marsii I guess you can just shoot at people 

Nor have I ever shot at people. (excluding paintball)

@ of crimes or terror don't need to die to lose something of value.

No, but a shooting victim is usually one who has been shot.   Check out the Wikipage concerning the shooting.  It only list those that were shot and/or killed are listed as 'victims'. 

A more accurate term would be a 'survivor of Stoneman Douglas High School shooting'.



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Male 1,782
megrendel so when you made this incredibly callous statement:

"He is not a crisis actor, but he is one who is cashing in on his victimhood." 


you meant survivorhood?
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Male 9,888
marsii  My issue was with the term 'shooting victim'. 

He is a victim of a traumatic experience.  But he is not a 'shooting victim'.   
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Male 1,782
megrendel what traumatic experience is he a victim of? A shooting?

Just as you may not be racist for saying the N word you also have to understand what company saying the N word puts you in. Same with calling Hogg a "crisis actor"

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Male 9,338
megrendel I still find it hilarious, and more than hypocritical, that David Hogg can keep a straight face about calling for the infringement of 2nd Amendment rights

Why?  It's perfectly legal what he's proposing and Constitutional.


He is not a crisis actor, but he is one who is cashing in on his victimhood.

Advocating a cause is now cashing in on victimhood?  OKAY.  What is the proper way to lobby for changes?  Be mega wealthy hire a bunch of lawyers and stalk lawmakers all day?  Just because he wants changes to the way we do things doesn't make what he's doing wrong or righteous depending on what side you are on.  He's trying to change things.  The way he's doing it is the RIGHT way.
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Male 9,888
normalfreak2 I see you conveniently left out the part of (at least, for those between the ages of 18 & 21)



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Male 9,338
megrendel 

Include it, it's Perfectly legal and Constitutional if the State's want to regulate arms that way.  Are you a States rights advocate or not?
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Male 9,888
normalfreak2 Just because something is considered legal does make it not an infringement.
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Male 9,338
megrendel It is an infringement, A necessary one, I hope we can bring those infringements country wide.
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Female 6,127
megrendel aka "Shill"
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6,359
Well that's truth is Crisis actors do exist.
There's a good documentary called "the woman who wasn't there".
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Male 1,345
dm2754 Oh, okay then. If there's a documentary.
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Male 8,634
dm2754 That's not a crisis actor , now is it?  Delusional or dishonest or both.  But not a crisis actor in the sense we are discussing.  Muddying the waters? 
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LordJim so you have seen it?
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Male 8,634
dm2754 It was in the papers. 
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6,359
LordJim okay so you haven't seen "the woman who wasn't there". And you don't know what I'm talking about but you're running your mouth anyway. 
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Male 8,634
dm2754 Alicia Head, yes? It was in the papers; The Guardian  ran a detailed article. Of course I know exactly what you are talking about, it's a well known story.  


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Male 6,695
LordJim the word you are looking for is tribalism.

When people use the term crisis actor or false flag, i immediately consider them batshit crazy.
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Male 1,156
These people make up their own truths, and make up their own 'facts' to support them.  Reminds me of the Flat Earthers.
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Male 17,620
It's not so much a conspiracy theory, as denial that one is on the wrong side of ethics. It's like people who deny either the Jewish or Palestinian holocausts.
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Male 416
Draculya Nailed it my man
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Male 6,695
Betcha 10 bucks he has a MAGA hat.

This kinda stuff is extremely hard to watch.  By my reckoning, that man is absolutely insane, but he probably has a garage filled with weapons cause he hasn't legally been diagnosed.
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Male 8,634
When conspiracy theorists stop being funny. 
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