Democrats To Introduce Bill To Legalize Marijuana

Submitted by: Gerry1of1 1 month ago in News & Politics


Senator Chuck Schumer to introduce legislation that would legalize marijuana at a federal level. About time.
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Male 5,106
man is monkwarrior ever wrong about any topic. wow what a talent
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Male 10,226
I don't get what the rush is to legalize this stuff.  It has seriously messed and does mess people up.  Not only that but the advocates  for it can't seem to listen to the harms it does to people, it's actually addictive, and is playing a growing role in accidents leading to deaths.  There's a reason why you don't see a lot of older folks doing it, because they know better.  If you're abusing it you're probably not going to get far at your job or in school, compared to others who aren't on it.  At the very least you're not going to be as sound of mind.  I saw this in school and many work places, and have seen a few emotional flip-outs over things that normally wouldn't trigger anyone.  I'm all for 'decriminalize' , but legalizing it is just a step too far, this stuff is not good for the majority of the population.  
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Male 172
monkwarrior The only reason they are introducing this bill is to gain votes.
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Male 10,226
bubba5658 you're probably right.
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Male 5,106
monkwarrior you are the reporter the world needs right now... knowing nothing about a topic but still having a seriously hard opinion on it. god if you werent canadian you could be president
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Male 10,226
rumham i know enough about this topic.
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Male 6,179
monkwarrior, "i know enough about this topic."

Yeah, no, you don't. You think people who are on pot flip out or go into a rage. Marijuana is a calming drug, a euphoric drug. Some people get a little paranoid if they get too high but they withdraw when this happens, not attack, and the paranoia only lasts for a few minutes. What you were describing sounds more like meth.

It's noble to want to discourage people from using drugs but if you don't have your facts right you will have the opposite effect.
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Male 10,226
markust123 I thought you were done discussing this?  I've seen people do this very thing, I've helped people in drug abuse get off of this drug.  I've heard the people crying for help to quit, I've emphasized with their situation surrounding their addiction, and provided support to help them escape it.  Granted, not everyone will do experience extreme flip outs/messed up lives/situations,  but I've seen it many times with my own eyes.  Not everyone is calmed when they're coming down from the high.  Did you consider those people experiencing paranoia have to go to work and can't simply 'withdraw' from work, as that will mean they're out of the job and won't be able to support their habit?  I worked with people who told me many times they don't get over the high from the night before until late in the work day/afternoon.  Also hung around people who wanted to quit but were psychologically addicted and couldn't, but wanted to change everything else but their addiction, only after years of changing to find they had to give up their addiction.

I deal with the facts surrounding this, not 'high times' biased take on it.


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Male 9
monkwarrior Are you high?
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Male 10,226
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Male 9
monkwarrior Well perhaps you should get high then. Everything that you just posted was tight assed complete refer madness stupidity. 
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Male 10,226
caede Sounds like you're the one suffering from refer madness stupidity.
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Male 6,179
monkwarrior Please explain to me how you helped people get off a drug when you do not understand how the drug works in the first place? Anyone who is serious about helping people get off a drug would spend the time to learn about the drug. I am calling bullshit on your bullshit.
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Male 10,226
markust123 I've worked in support groups helping people get off of it. It involves being a friend, and being someone to hang out with as they overcome the withdraw.  It can take months in some cases.  The addiction is real.
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Male 6,179
monkwarrior You don't even understand the drug or the high. How on earth could you help people when you don't understand the drug they want to quit? If you are going to help people again do some research. Don't just be their friend, understand what it is they are dealing with. Or are you just doing it to push religion on people?
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Male 10,226
markust123 And here you are again assuming that you know things about me that you don't.  I have done much research into this, i've known many people who do it, most have left it as they got older and had families, realizing it won't help them.  One didn't stop and killed himself. Another almost did because they were letting it magnify their problems constantly. Another continues to smoke it and it's a bit of a shame as he has really no ambitions to do anything but smoke it.  And no i'm not helping to 'push religion on people', i'm helping because i now the damage drug abuse can cause and that life is better without drug abuse.
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Male 6,179
monkwarrior You are so extremely uninformed about marijuana it's not even funny.
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Male 10,226
markust123 it seems you are uninformed.  Even teachers know.  Here's a quote i heard from a teacher that i tend to agree with from my own experiences:

“I hate pot. I hate it even more than hard drugs. I’ve taught high school for 25 years and I hate what marijuana does to my students. It goes beyond missing homework assignments. My students become less curious when they start smoking pot. I’ve seen it time and time again. People say pot makes you more creative, but from what I’ve seen, it narrows my students' minds until they only reference the world in relation to the drug. They’ll say things like: “I went to the beach and got so high,” or “I went to a concert and got so high.” They start choosing their friends based on the drug. I hate when people say that it’s just experimenting. Because from what I’ve seen, it’s when my students stop experimenting.”

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Male 6,179
monkwarrior I agree with that teacher. That guy knows what he is talking about from experience. You do not. 
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Male 10,226
markust123 you're just going on like you think you know what i know, yet you don't know what i know at all.  Even though i'm conveying what i know, you're working to ignore it.  And now you're deleting comments?  

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actually you are uninformed on the facts surrounding marijuana, just as you are on the facts surrounding 9/11.  You're only listening to the facts you want to hear.  I understand people use it and are fine, but there are many getting messed up because of marijuana right now, and it creeps up so on people they don't realize it until it's too late in many cases.  They think "no the marijuana isn't the problem", even though it is.

Where i work marijuana abuse will likely not get you far, because people there are expected to be focus on the work and use their mind to resolve problems.  a mind in the haze of drug abuse is not as effective as one that is not.

In fact, if you examine the work policies of work paces surrounding the use of drugs, including marijuana, you will find many examples of the behavioral problems marijuana, or any substance can cause. Marijuana is not exempt from this, as you think. 
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Male 6,179
monkwarrior, "Even though i'm conveying what i know, you're working to ignore it."

Just because it is what you know does not make it accurate. If you think people flip out or go into a rage when smoking pot you are grossly misinformed. And if you are actually helping people get off of it you would do them and yourself a service by learning the actual facts about the drug. It horrifies me that someone so ignorant to a drug could be the front line of getting someone off of it. Please refer these people to an expert.
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Male 10,226
markust123 People who otherwise function normally without drugs can be sent into erattic and strange, even damaging or careless behavior because of the drug abuse affecting their mind.  This is well known already. Again you don't know the damage it is doing to people, and it appears you want to minimize the damage to keep glorifying a drug.

Understand: humans are better without drug abuse.
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Male 6,179
monkwarrior I have been around pot for my whole adult life. You have a lot to learn about the drug and it's affects on people. If you really want to help people, quit wasting time here arguing with me and go brush up on your knowledge.
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Male 10,226
markust123 i've been around people who smoke it since i was in high school.  I don't mind it if someone does it, but don't think it doesn't mess up a lot of people, because it does.
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Male 6,179
monkwarrior Your being "around it" is obviously from an outsiders stance because you don't even understand the high. I'm not saying you need to go smoke it to help people. But you should do a lot more research because there are clear misconceptions in what you have been talking about here. And if you go and try to get a kid off the drug and start talking about things that aren't accurate you will completely lose them.
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Male 10,226
markust i don't have any misconceptions of it, it can mess people up badly.
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Male 6,179
monkwarrior Well, I think that’s just wonderful. I mean why would you want to learn more about the drug you’re trying to get people off. 

Sometimes you only get one chance to get through to addicts. If you’re not going to put in the time to be the best you can be please don’t “help” anyone else.
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Male 10,226
markust i help whomever i choose, and i have helped people through their withdraw period of a few months.  There are many many people who used to think it was 'wonderful, care-free, and harmless' until they looked back at the destruction in their life and could see it was due to marijuana. Understand, just because you think it's wonderful doesn't mean it's the same for everyone, in fact a huge portion are dealing with the fallout from their choice to use it.
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Male 6,179
monkwarrior Yes, repeat my word “wonderful” a few times to make it seem like you are answering me. KellyAnne Conway uses that same technique when she is stuck in a corner. I especially like how you used my word to turn my obvious sarcasm into me somehow making a statement of approval for marijuana. That’s quite a stretch and especially shifty, even for you.
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Male 10,226
markust Yet still you want to ignore that what you find wonderful is causing many people trouble.
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Male 6,179
monkwarrior, “Yet still you want to ignore that what you find wonderful is causing many people trouble.”

No, that is not what I am doing. I know that some people abuse the drug and would benefit from getting off it. What I was trying to do is get you to learn more about the drug so that you don’t cause people to rebound. If I was an abuser and working with you and you started spouting off about people on pot flipping out or going into a rage because of the high, I would think this guy has no idea what he is talking about, why should I listen to him, and I would probably get high that night. You can’t bullshit abusers. You have to be honest with them. It’s why the best drug counselors are people who have gotten off the drug themselves. Again I am not suggesting you get high. I am saying you need to learn more about the drug to be the most affective you can be. Learning is not a bad thing.
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Male 10,226
markust well rest assured i know all i need to know about the subject and how it affects people, and it's constantly growing (more info).  There are people who need get help out too, and who recognize it's a problem, so remember it's not something wonderful if it's not good for everyone. for you, maybe, but not for a large portion of everyone.
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Male 6,179
monkwarrior, "well rest assured i know all i need to know about the subject and how it affects people, and it's constantly growing (more info)."

Dude, no, you do not know all you need to know about the subject and how it affects people. You are not listening to the five people on here who smoke marijuana who know it's effects, who all have known hard core users, that are telling you point blank you that some of the things you are spouting is nonsense. Check your freaking ego and learn something if you really want to help people. You can not tell an addict untrue scare tactics about marijuana. They will not trust another word you say. That is a fact.

monkwarrior, "There are people who need get help out too, and who recognize it's a problem, so remember it's not something wonderful if it's not good for everyone. for you, maybe, but not for a large portion of everyone." 

What the hell? Do you not read anything anyone writes? I literally wrote the following in my reply above: I know that some people abuse the drug and would benefit from getting off it.
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Male 10,226
markust its a drug.  wide dug abuse is the symptom of a sick society, as an escape from its hardship. It's within our power to abate that hardship by nourishing society to undo hardships, and following the symptoms to their roots to be resolved. encourzging znd escaping the responsibility of dealing with the problem and doing drugs only skirts the responsibility and lets the problem build up. like the out of control love for money and power problem ravaging the world right this minute.
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Male 6,179
monkwarrior I don't know what that rambling vomitribe was in response to but it sure cleared things up. It doesn't appear that you're a drug councilor at all. That would explain your lack of knowledge on the subject. You're just a self-righteous religious fanatic who wants to impose his views upon the world. I wasn't going to get high this weekend or even next weekend, but as a toast to your ignorance, I'm going to grab some edibles from the pot store before I watch Isles of Dogs tonight. You are by far the worst fake drug counselor there is.
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Male 10,226
markust i'm not a drug counsellor at all, but i know the dangers of the drug and especially drug abuse.
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Male 6,179
monkwarrior, "i'm not a drug counsellor at all..."

Yeah, that's blatantly clear. Now. Not sure why you were pretending you were. 

[Self deleted the snarky rest of this comment because you were super cool in my book's post.]
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Male 10,226
markust i'm not pretending anything.  People who have friends or loved ones that are suffering from an addiction or messed up life on drugs (even marijuana), don't need to be a counselor to help them, they simply just have to want to help. It's a duty many take on: to help those in need.  You can think i'm any way you want, but again it seems you're completely wrong with your assumptions, as you don't really know me at all.
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Male 6,179
monkwarrior And you’re still doing it. You know if you put as much energy into actually learning about marijuana and it’s effects as you do about being a troll you would be an amazing counselor.
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Male 6,179
monkwarrior I deleted that comment that I had just made because you expanded on your response. I was being nice. 
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Male 10,226
markust123 why would you do that?  why not just do [self deleted my comment here]
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Male 6,179
monkwarrior Because I didn't know you had responded to it.
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Male 10,226
markust123 makes sense then  btw why don't you just change your name to markust now like kalron did from kalron27?
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Male 6,179
monkwarrior Can you change your name? I would love to change mine to just Markus.

Update: Just tried to change it - didn't work.

Update update: Markus was taken already. That's why that didn't work. I was able to change it to markust. It won't capitalize the M and T for some reason though.
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Male 10,226
markust oh you didn't have to change your name, i was just wondering why but now i know.  i don't want to change my name, thanks, but i would have if it was monkwarroir123  and i could change it to monkwarrior.


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Male 5,106
monkwarrior yes you keep claiming to be really intelligent very humble like a monk should be
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Male 10,226
rumham a goal you should strive for.
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Male 5,657
monkwarrior 1) Imma doubt you saw people emotionally flipping out on weed (unless someone stole their weed), the point of taking weed is the exact opposite of flipping out.

2) Old people do not know better, they have been lied to their entire life about weed, it is incredibly hard to break that conditioning.

3) If we want to be a free society, we need to let people make up their own minds about whats good for them or not.

4) It is ONLY illegal because the pharmaceutical companies want you to get high on their supply, they do not want more competition, so they pay off legislators to keep the status quo.
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Male 10,226
daegog 1) i have, people coming down from smoking a lot can be easily broken with just average stress from a work day, so when extreme stress comes in there are emotional breakdowns. I used to work with a group of 15 people, 7 of whom got stoned on a regular basis.  only 2, possibly 3, of those didn't lose composure.  so 4/7 or 5/7 of people doing it did.

2) Old people who have smoked weed know better.

3) When their drug haze puts other people's lives at risk (and it has, as data is showing from police reports and accidents), it's really on society to police things.  Attitudes like that is why there's a big gun problem in a nation right now.

4) i have no comment on that, all i know is that the recreational abuse of marijuana messes up a lot of people.
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Male 6,179
monkwarrior You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. A lot of older people are using it. They are from the 60’s. And a lot of successful people do it. I know a doctor that smokes it to unwind and two very successful lawyers that do it. Pot is way less damaging to the mind and body than alcohol.

“...and have seen a few emotional flip-outs over things that normally wouldn't trigger anyone.” 
That is some seriously ridiculous refer madness bullshit there. 

Medicinally it is a miracle for some people. It cuts down the shaking for people with Parkinson’s and it allows seriously sick people to have an appetite so they can get the strength needed to fight their diseases. There is a reason God made marijuana and it is good.
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Male 172
markust123 I'm 61. I use it for inflammation and pain control. Have not used an opiate since I started. I also use CBD oil every day. My father in law had cancer, he used edibles and it was miracles for him. I also know someone that smoked it a couple of times and had auditory hallucinations. He chose to no longer smoke it. I also grow it so that I know exactly what I am getting.
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Male 5,106
bubba5658 but you are wrong dont you know monkwarrior is never wrong and is hand picked by god to deliver all of us from wickedness
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Male 10,226
markust123 i know exactly what i'm talking about.  I've seen first hand how messed up it can make people, the people you're talking about are likely in the small percentage of those who are the exception to the rule. 

"refer madness"? 
Ive seen this 'refer madness' in a number of people who i've interacted with.  I remember having one manager who made no secret they smoked it, flipping out and almost crying like a a baby over a small things. I've seen workers who smoked it mentally fatigued from it on a Monday morning, doing risky and careless behavior at the workplace, reporting defensively (as if they're in the right) 'i don't care i just want to go home and smoke'.  These are not isolated incidents either, as I've seen it in people on the street, and have lived in buildings housing a number of people who are suffering the lack of control from their addiction, all who are easily triggered (i would witness them flipping out in the halls or on the street).  I remember one person in one place i lived going down the hall in a rage to pick up a fire extinguisher to come back and attack me with, all because i suggested he take control of his barking dog which was annoying all the tenants (he didn't succeed, another non-smoking tenant subdued him), i still shake my head at the stupidity it drove him to.  I've even heard some people reveal their desire for it to be legalized, so they can go on some type of 'disability' and get their drug paid for then 'smoke weed all day', when they're perfectly able to work and they really just want to be lazy and have someone else pay for them to live and smoke it.. there are disabled people who don't smoke it who are more productive. I've also seen it with a with cashiers bright and early (8-9AM) too, their eyes clearly tell you they smoked quite a bit the night before, and they're not even receptive to you, it's a shame.  In every one of these cases it's clear they are showing the symptoms of marijuana abuse, a risk to themselves and others because of it.  Suggestions to improve themselves by leaving it are often met with wrath and rage.  But that's the dangerous nature of the addiction of marijuana, it creeps up so slowly people don't notice, or they become too selfish to see the damage it's doing to them, or ashamed to admit the truth of what you mentioned to them.

God did make it, but recreational abuse of it is not good.  So like i said I'm all for 'decriminalize' , but legalizing it is just a step too far, this stuff is not good for the majority of the population.   The cases you're talking about are more likely the rare exception to the rule (are you a pot smoker? because that type of argument is what i would expect from them).  The cases i'm talking about are the majority of what you're going to hear of in marijuana users, because it's not good for the majority of the population, and there are a lot of addiction centers that deal with helping people off this so called 'harmless' drug.
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Male 172
monkwarrior I've been smoking since 1974. I've never seen anyone flip out on it. Mild paranoia but if they act anything like in reefer madness, there is mushrooms or LSD involved. And the way I see it, the majority of people should be able to choose for themselves.
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Male 6,179
monkwarrior Pot doesn’t make you do any of the erratic things you described in your second paragraph. What makes the movie Refer Madness so funny is how ridiculously stupid and inaccurate it is. What you are describing sounds more like meth or people with social disorders. The people “doing risky and careless behavior at the workplace” are simply idiots. Don’t blame their stupidity on pot. And the people who are tired Monday or Friday morning are more than likely just living life to the fullest, out late having fun with their friends.

Am I a pot smoker? I smoke a few times a month in social situations. When I was young I smoked more. I never felt addicted. I could stop for a month or so with zero problem.

"the people you're talking about are likely in the small percentage of those who are the exception to the rule.”

No. Old people are smoking it. I see the clientele at the legal pot shops. My friend’s mother was telling me that all her golf buddies, not some but all of them, take pot lozenges. She herself does not do it. My uncle’s ski buddies all do it.

And you don’t know about successful people who do it because you’re a square and they’re not going to talk about that with you. The more successful you are the more stress is in your life. Getting high every once in a while takes it all away for a bit.

I will agree that pot is bad in some cases. When I went back to school after high school I didn’t do it at all. The two people that did dropped out. I’ve seen stoners from my high school not do it very often during college and are doing great. And the people who didn’t do it in high school went completely out of control when they were away from their strict parents and screwed up their schooling. It’s mostly how people are raised. I was raised to take personal responsibility for my actions so I wanted to get the most out of school.
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Male 5,106
markust123 i dont think monkwarrior has been exposed to actual users. he's just read things and made up his mind
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Male 172
markust123 I got a joint for my 84 year old mother in law because she wants to try it for Parkinson's difficulties. 
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Male 10,226
markust123 Sorry, i have seen marijuana cause these effects "first hand" in people, i've known, worked with, helped to support, or lived with.  Sure people may be stupid to engage in risky and careless behaviour, but it was the effects of marijuana that magnified this.  Some people i know stopped, and then even looked back and said "that stuff really messed me up".  

The bottom line is that by legalizing it, it's going to cause a lot more problems.  People who never tried it may try it and not realize that they are one of the people whose mental issues will explode, or do it for so long they won't recognize the problem creeping up on them.
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Male 172
monkwarrior Then I think that your town should ban it. The rest of us are grown ass adults
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Male 10,226
bubba5658 do you know that marijuana abusers is no different than the drunkards discussed in the Bible, drinking wine to excess?
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Male 172
monkwarrior Key word there being abusers. Ever take a pain killer?
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Male 10,226
bubba5658 yes, abuse is a key word.  and that's why it's good to keep dangerous drugs like advanced painkillers under control (provided by the health sector)
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Male 172
monkwarrior Right, so we don't end up with an Opiate epidemic. Thank goodness for the government health sector. I realize that you do not possess the capacity to be wrong but man, you are just wrong. Love you though. 
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Male 10,226
bubba5658 wrong about what? we agreed abuse it the key word.  decriminalize.  But legalize will make it like legalizing opioids, so it should remain as controlled, but no one can go to jail for it, however it may get them jail and/or rehab if they are doing crimes on it.
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Male 9
monkwarrior bud isnt even comparable to opiates, nor "drunkards, discussed in the bible". You are comparing Apple's and oranges. Mountain dew is more harmful and addictive than weed (which bud is not addictive at all). Should we all go to jail for drinking mountain dew?
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Male 10,226
caede Oh it's a drug indeed, this isn't comparing apples and oranges.  Marijuana abuse messes up a lot of people.  Your false equivocal is on par with what i would expect a pro-drug person to make.
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Male 172
monkwarrior But it's actually absolutely nothing like Opiates.
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Male 10,226
bubba5658 in some cases for some people it can seem worse.
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Male 172
monkwarrior OK, I'm done debating a subject that your expertise is the people in your trailer park. You are clueless, but keep patting yourself on the back.
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Male 10,226
bubba5658 i don't live in a trailer park.  There was no debate to begin with.  The facts are clear: marijuana messes up people, and it's best that someone never do drugs at all unless they need them, and under doctor supervision.
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Male 5,106
monkwarrior yeah sure dude
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Male 10,226
rumham sure thing.
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Male 6,179
monkwarrior You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about here. Marijuana does not in any way cause the erratic behaviors you talked about. Go walk through a hemp fest. The people are about as mellow as can be. The cops love those festivals because there's rarely any trouble. It's a fun day for them. 

Legalizing marijuana actually has positive effects on society. When it is legal you know you are only getting THC. When it is not legal the dealers can slip in heroin, opium, PCP, etc to make their batch seem better. 
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Male 10,226
markust123 I'm sorry, i know exactly what i'm talking about. Marijuana does cause many behaviors that are not beneficial to its users (or those around or who know the user), especially long term abusers.  A 'hemp fest' is no place to gauge.  Want to get a better gauge?  Go to a marijuana anonymous meeting.  In fact, you can go to one online by clicking right here.  Sit in, listen to the damage it has caused people's lives.  These are real people who have likely have gone to those 'hemp fests' and have over the years realized the damage marijuana has caused in their life, have tried to break free, can't, and are reaching out for help.

Legalizing it will not have any positive effects, except for the young people who don't yet know the damage it can cause, because they'll feel like they have won a victory. or the positive effect (if you can call it that) of increased spending for mental health assistance (more in big pharma's pocket).  In 20-30 years of abuse they'll loo back and realize it was a vain and empty victory.  However the increase of drug use is a clear sign of a sick society.

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Male 172
monkwarrior I'm 61 and very successful. smoked since 1974. Quit when I need to, use when I need to. Never went on to use anything else. In fact, it has made me able to quit taking Opiates from the doctor.
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Male 6,179
monkwarrior I get what you are doing. You're trying to deglamorize pot. That's noble. But you can't just make shit up like you were doing in the beginning. If you do that you lose the argument and lose any chance of changing anyone's mind. You have to be honest and you just were not being honest. I have hung around hundreds of pot smokers. Not once have I seen the erratic behavior you described. I live across from Seattle busiest beach. I am surrounded by stoned people on a daily basis. And did you seriously say that a hemp fest is no place to gage the effects of pot? Seriously? A place where thousands of people are smoking pot is not a place to gage the effects? Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself. I've hung around people who wake and bake. People who are always high. Yes they have a huge problem but none of it is acting in the erratic ways you described. And yes it would benefit these people to quite. Anything can be abused to excess. Did you know that marijuana use in kids actually went down the year Colorado pot shops opened. 
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Male 10,226
markust123 If you think pot is glamorous and wonderful, that's simply your own problem.  The reality is that marijuana messes up a lot of people, and not for the best.

I see what you're doing though.  You're doing the same thing you do in regards to the facts of 9/11.  You don't like the facts, because you have chosen to believe something else based on the popular opinion of your peers. Here you're also trying to glamorize marijuana while trying to brush aside the fact that there are a large portion of people whose lives are getting messed up on it (as you could have seen by sitting in on a marijuana anonymous meeting), and it's being increasingly found in the blood of people involved in vehicle accidents, and being the reason for them.  

I have worked with, and around people who have done marijuana, and have actually sit in on MA meetings to listen to their stories.  So no, i'm not embarrassing myself in the slightest because i know the facts of marijuana and what it does to people, the pros and the cons. My stance continues to be I'm all for 'decriminalize', but legalizing it is just a step too far, this stuff is not good for the majority of the population. 
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Male 9
monkwarrior Man i live in colorado where its rare to meet somebody that doesnt smoke. We have proven that it can be responsibly taken and that there are actually some awesome benefits for health and the money taxes goes to schools. It takes it away from drug dealers of the black market and puts it into the hands of a responsible distributers. Decriminalizing or keeping it illegal just makes buying it more dangerous for the population and exposes people to crime for something that is not addictive or harmful.
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Male 10,226
caede oh it's addictive, you're just deluding yourself if you think it's not.
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Male 9
caede also smoking weed and drug abuse are two different things. This isn't about drug abuse. It's about legalizing weed. Of course abuse is bad... again apples and oranges
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Male 10,226
caede Marijuana abuse messes up a lot of people.  Legalizing it is taking things too far.
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Male 5,106
monkwarrior pot isnt glamourous its a thing. a good thing, but you are too narrow minded to admit you are wrong about something you know nothing about. like bladerunner 2049 and black jeopardy. you form a thought on A whim and "because you're so intelligent and governed by jesus" that it can't be wrong! but you are beyond stupid. get outside you derpy comfort zone and live your life while you can. not everything is 9/11 and shaming athiests. dance, sing, go for a burn cruise. make a joke. holy fuck dude let loose.
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Male 10,226
rumham sorry, drug abuse is bad.  I admit i'm wrong many times.  I wasn't wrong about bladerunner 2049 (it was a dud). But  ultimately your own stupidity is apparent.  i let lose by seeking the truth - it is elating.
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Male 5,106
monkwarrior jesus abuse is worse..i dont know what brand of christianity you cling/grasp to but its a weak one filled with lonely dark days preaching to yourself, cause no one can stand your company. but im guessing you dont care cause you are self contained right·eous·ness
ˈrīCHəsnəs/
noun

  1. the quality of being morally right or justifiable.

  1. "we had little doubt about the righteousness of our cause"
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Male 10,226
rumham it seems you don't really know me in the slightest.
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Male 5,106
monkwarrior you never watched it
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Male 10,226
rumham i saw bladerunner 2049, it was weak.
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Male 10,226
rumham in most every way
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Male 6,179
monkwarrior Really, I accuse you of trying to deglamorize pot so you say I am trying to glamorize it. The old Monk I-know-you-are-but-what-am-I routine. I think you're needle is stuck. I don't know why I interact with someone who behaves like a middle school girl. I'm not trying to glamorize pot I'm just showing that you once again have no idea what you are talking about. I am done here. You are a complete waste of time and energy.
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Male 172
markust123 why am I getting flashbacks of 5cats? Must be the pot.
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Male 5,106
bubba5658 try some hash caramels. you will see all cats
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Male 10,226
markust123 You're trying to glamorize it by trying to dismiss the negatives brought up.  And again, i know exactly what i'm talking about, by trying to dismiss my points it's also trying to glamorize something that messes up a lot of people for the worse..
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Male 504
monkwarrior Dude. No.
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cant let canada win! 
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Male 5,106
andy_bart stfu
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Male 7,219
rumham Rummy, as a mod, I have to offer a Suggestion here. Please try to match your occasional insults to comments that are offensive in some way. Otherwise, you're really making attacks out of the blue, which is a problem. A Suggestion is the lowest level action a mod can take; but I do think it's needed here. Thanks.
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Male 5,106
squrlz4ever yes i know you are a mod, you tell us all the time, but stfu = standard turds fear underwear
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Male 7,219
rumham You're a friend on here. Making that Suggestion to you wasn't something I wanted to do. So get your post-work buzz on, but please don't ask me to apply a different standard to your comments than everyone else's.
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Male 5,106
squrlz4ever i like one standard, you need some ganja bro
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Male 7,219
rumham We're totally cool then. Trust me, I wish I had some right about now.
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Male 5,106
squrlz4ever this is a place where people gather to bitch. and yes you do need a bong rip.
things arent so serious.
i mean 5cats told me to kill myself but seriously some shut in in the depth of the canadian prarie tells me to kill myself omg! fuck that, its like monkwarrior/ i would never speak to or even give a moment to a person like that in real life. they are stupid. goddamn life can be fun if you let it.
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Male 7,219
rumham I'm all for fun and play. Attacks, on the other paw, are problematic. It kills the site. As another IAB'er recently commented (I'm paraphrasing), "I don't want to come from a long day at work to listen to a bunch of people throw insults and yell at each other. Why put myself through that?"
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Male 5,657
Big Pharma owns the legislators, this shit will not pass.
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Male 1,539
daegog They usually own the Dems tho. Kinda weird. 
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Male 1,921
marsii Dems, Reps, two sides of the same coin. 
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Male 1,754
Obamas biggest let down was to NOT legalize Marijuana.  What a douche.
FINALLY someone has the balls to introduce legislation to at least decriminalize it.
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Male 6,179
spanz President Obama allowed states to legalize marijuana without the threat of a Federal crackdown. He is the main reason recreational pot is legal in so many states and will one day be legal across the land.
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Male 5,657
spanz Do you have any idea at all about how the government works?  Do you comprehend the republicans were not going to let Obama pass any law?  Your hatred of Obama is noted, but its misguided as usual.
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Hope it passes. Doubt it will. 

Also, 4:19!?!?! so close. They couldn't wait one day and add on 1 second? 
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Male 145
skypirate I saw the video load as 4:20 and then back tick to 4:19, think youtube did it on purpose.
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Male 477
aegis1294 The vid loads at 4:20......I laughed when I saw it....I'm sure someone did it on purpose....party on........;)
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