Remember When Democrats Were In Favor Of Guns In Schools?

Submitted by: 5cats 3 months ago in News & Politics


When Obama spent millions to arm 1000+ school guards, I don't recall the endless protests or MSM attacks about that. Of course these halfhearted measures didn't help in Parkland, especially since Sheriff Israel was proud of how he refused to allow such things.

So the reason the Florida high school murderer was able to buy that gun in the first place was due to the policies of the school board and police's policy to not arrest 'minority high-school kids' even for repeated, violent crimes or serious issues like burglary. It is the reason Treyvon Martin wasn't arrested, just suspended, too. Had either boy been arrested? Things may have turned out differently, right?

American Thinker writer Alan Fraser points out what should be obvious:

Nikolas Cruz wasn't "a shooter" he was in fact a mass murderer. But that doesn't make guns sound 'scary enough' so the MSM continues to emphasize the weapon used, not the motives, reasons or mistakes made that led to the massacre in the first place. That way they cover up things like the Sheriff's orders to not engage the suspect but to 'form a perimeter' and the school board's polices about not filing charges even in violent cases. The only reason it happened was because of an inanimate object.

American Thinker writer Daniel John Sobieski reminds us that bad laws cause bad things to happen too:

When people have their lawful rights and freedoms taken away because of the illegal actions of others? There will be fallout. There's a reason why some folks want to own a firearm, and it isn't always 'Rambo' inspired, ok?

Of course CNN's expert analysts tell us that arming female teachers isn't possible because of their "wardrobe choices". No, really!

Fact checked, professional journalism...
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Well, knucklehead, click-through the huffpost reference in your own article, and you'll see 'lefties' calling Obama's actions absurd:
But experts say bringing weapons onto school grounds would do more harm than good, and many teachers have called the proposal "absurd."

pjmedia is a 'fake news' outlet; one wonders why you reference them.
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barry9a Aside from that single teacher harming no one at all recently? How many deaths, injuries or 'events' have been caused by armed security guards (or teachers) in schools? (Hint: zero) And how many have been prevented or stopped before they became tragedies? (Hint: hundreds).

I've never once heard "the kid took the gun from the teacher/security/cop at school and started shooting". Not even once, I think we'd all have heard about it if it ever did, yes?
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Male 6,375
5cats Your response is a prime example why you get so much shit. You do this to yourself. Barry9a showed how your title is absolutely not true, we're not talking about something in the subject but the title itself, and your response isn't an admission that you were misled, no you start arguing about something completely different. Why won't you fact check your articles? Do you put this misinformation in on purpose just so you can argue with people? It sure feels that way.
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5cats That's because the vast majority of teachers and schools don't have guns at the moment, knucklehead. Even your "OMG OBAMA ARMED THEM TEACHERS!!11!1!!eleven!!1" talks about 1000 guards, and there are nearly 40,000 high schools. That's about ONE guard for THREE PERCENT of the schools. And teachers - the ones with the student contact - are not the ones carrying.

Please stop just making shit up to suit your own narrative. And stop pulling articles from ridiculously biased sources. You claim the MSM is bad and carries an agenda, but sites like pjmedia are ridiculously worse.


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Male 5,889
Sometimes the NRA is in favor of gun control, I can't quite figure out why....
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Male 16,967
daegog the NRA claims to have 40% minority representation, but almost all those are Asian. In fact, go to any NRA convention or Google search for images and you'll see a substantially all-white crowd.

The NRA was notoriously reluctant to make a statement in support of Philando Castile after he was shot for licensed concealed carry.

The NRA is essentially a white power organization. While it doesn't espouse white power per se, its politics and the selective application of its politics is designed to entrench white power through firepower.
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Male 2,169
daegog Well, I'm certainly stumped
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Male 2,315
There easily can be made a case that the left is just as responsible as the right for the condition this country is in today. If you read the article without looking at its "there fault" you will see that the left is all so complacent in our ills to day. 
  They also show how the left says one thing and when the right says the same the left vilifies it without question, or memory.
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Male 1,605
casaledana the "left" didn't unashamedly get in bed with the Klan, Nazis, and Russians. Take a good fucking look at "your side".
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Male 227
Remember when Republicans and the NRA were for gun comtroll?  

The thing here that really makes me wonder is how does Trayvon Martin being shot by make believe lawman Zimmerman have anything to do with him being "just suspended"?
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Male 1,634
david-morris Yes, I do remember it.  In fact, all the Republican NRA members I know are STILL saying this.  They promote gun education and think everyone, for or against guns should learn a bit about them, have a course on gun safety and fire one at the range if they so choose.  

They also want to see things like the ability for any Tom, Dick or Harry to just go to a Gun Show and buy a gun without a background check taken away.  Yes, there are other NRA members that are there selling guns and don't want to see the loopholes closed, but that just goes to show that even the NRA is divided.  Everything is divided.  The ones I know and associate with actually want to see Gun Shows in their current form go away.  They don't want anyone to be able to go buy a gun because that's one more crazy person they may have to shoot and they don't really want to shoot people.

So yeah, I do remember today, very well.  It sucks it's the extremists that get the media attention and not the rational ones which make up the majority of the NRA.
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waldo863 So yeah, I do remember today, very well.  It sucks it's the extremists that get the media attention and not the rational ones which make up the majority of the NRA.

That would be accurate and make sense IF ONLY the NRA didn't cowtow to the extremists.  Have you seen the way NRATV works or broadcasts?  It's pretty flippin extreme.  Don't say "there are all these rational members" when they are ACTIVELY courting the extremists.  Hell did you see and hear what Wayne Lapierre said at CPAC?  That type of hyperbole only does one thing, encourage more nutso's to join.  The "moderate rational NRA members" haven't asked for Wayne to step down, or hell I don't hear ANYONE in the NRA standing up to their fear based programing.  
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Male 2,315
david-morris   If you don't know how better parenting and being held responsible for his thug like actions before he was stalking Zimmerman then it may not have ever happen. Remember he attacked and was shot by Zimmerman it all came out  in court. That's why he walks free to day.
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casaledana The Travon Martin incident had absolutely nothing to do with a school shooting or what this post was about.  He should have walked away from Zimmerman, but Zimmerman was the one doing the stalking and the police dispatcher did tell him to back off.  Had he done what he was told by the police, there would not have been any trouble.  
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Male 16
Hey 5cats, why does it have to be us against them? I believe in a time when everyone, including you, comes to a rational objective solution that everyone can benefit from. A solution where each side gives a little and it helps us become a stronger and more secure nation because of it. Goddamn, dude. Does everything have to be a screaming match where neither side hears the other? No, it doesn't. Now go get one of those feet vibrator/buffer things and relax a little.        Regards,  Your Cardiologist
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ballsrawls Actually? I'm pointing out that the Democrats & leftists are the ones dividing their nation, that their double standards and knee-jerk reactions are the cause of many current ills. It is NOT 100% Republicans to blame for everything, there's plenty of blame to spread around.

On IAB there is no need for ME to point out the faults and flaws of conservatives or Republicans, there's ample posts about those: real OR imagined.

Each side gives a little? Yes that would be nice, if such a position existed. But it is the liberal-left that has entrenched and doubled down on everything imaginable: SJWs do not 'bargain' they dictate.
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Male 16,967
ballsrawls ah, now we cut to the motive.

5Cats is driven by neither pure ideology nor faithful partisanship: he seeks self-gratification through hurting feelings and causing division.
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Male 42,934
Draculya Then why are you here? Insulting people you've never met and generally being a troublemaker? :-| Also pretending to be an "internet psychologist" to boot...
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Male 16,967
5cats nobody wants you here. You are an embarrassing straw man dragging down the conservatives. Your presence is an impediment to reasoned debate.

If I was a mod, my first act would be to perma-ban you and block your IPs.
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Male 42,934
Draculya Fascism! it solves everything!
As expected from a Maoist fuck like you...
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Male 227
5cats You have problems with someone insulting people?  Well bless your heart
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Male 42,934
david-morris I have to work hard at it, eh? you nice person!
Oh darn!! I did it wrong again :->
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Male 1,605
If 5crap says it, it's pretty much guaranteed a lie.
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Male 5,889
marsii yeah that was my general thought.
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Male 886
"But that doesn't make guns sound 'scary enough' so the MSM continues to emphasize the weapon used, not the motives, reasons or mistakes made that led to the massacre in the first place."

Except the mainstream media has actually focused on the shooter being reported to authorities, the mental health angle, motives, the inaction of the school guard and the debate on armed teachers. I would say coverage of this tragic event has been pretty fairly balanced.
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mrteatime That's why they're holding marches and "townhalls" and such? To push for more help for those with mental issues?? That's what the blanket MSM coverage is about? Have they focused on facts like I've presented? That "liberal laws" and practices are the root cause of this and other terrible events?

Nope. They are gun-grabbers trying hard to exploit the deaths of kids to by-pass the US Constitution. They are calling for MORE of the same bad laws that allowed the massacre in the first place.
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Male 16,967
5cats "grab the guns first, worry about due process later"

Watch who you call "gun grabbers"
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Male 886
5cats I don't know what planet you are on but I've seen plenty diverse coverage on MSM.
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Male 489
mrteatime But this dosn't for the profile for the strawman in this argument....
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Male 5,249
MSM!!!FAKENEWS omg catcanada
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Male 322
Always do a background check...

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/pj-media/
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Male 5,889
Trump says TAKE GUNS FIRST, then due process.  Are the Conservatives ok with this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxgybgEKHHI


Even FOX NEWS Tucker Carlson says, "If Obama said that, we would be talking impeachment and some would be muttering about secession." Nice double standard there Fox.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe6bhbbwjzU
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Male 4,022
for fucks sake fancy, can you seriously not find anything better to post than this bullshit?
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robthelurker lol dont ever blame fancey for 5cats posts. Ill find u and hurt u.

wait is fancey secretly 5cats?

anyways fancey posts cat videos and pro feminist stuff. And dont forget the awsome pictures of the day he hasnt posted in a while. which wtf fancey why havnt you posted pictures lately.
5cats posts super political stuff that is often very radical that pisses most of the internet off.
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Male 4,022
bill_watson first, why are you spelling fancy with an e? second, i was under the impression that fancy is able to choose whether or not the posts we submit actually get posted or not. i just personally think that two days in a row of bullshit is too much for a site that is supposed to be at its core, a comedic website.
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Male 42,934
robthelurker Fancy is, to my knowledge, the ONLY one putting up posts. Unless there's others helping out? I certainly have NO say in the matter. 
If you don't like my posts? Don't click on them, it is clearly labelled...
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robthelurker  though 5cats is an idiot, I like that Fancy allows his and others opinion on here.  If this was my website I would block every single thing that I didn't agree with, ignore most people and all the trumphumpers that love their Bloatus.  But Fancy lets all of them post, which makes him a bigger person than me. I guess i'm just a bitch on the low road.  

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owser Thanks for noticing! That is (I think) what separates IAB for 100 similar sites: more or less balanced, open to multiple opinions. 
There's literally 100 other links I could have put up in the submissions too: I could have separated the 6-7 into different posts and flooded IAB with them, then people would REALLY be angry! (It has happened before) So I didn't, I combined them into only 2 submissions. 
I also try to submit other things: anime, humour, science, interesting stuff and cat-related material too. That is greeted by the same hate-spewing trolls with the same personal attacks & insults. It isn't the content they hate, they just hate everything.
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owser i have no problem with fancy allowing others opinion. but it was only yesterday we had the post, "This Stand Up Comedian Gives His Broad Take On The Florida High School Massacre" this is fancys website, but we all visit it, we all are allowed to comment. and i say bullshit posts like this two days in a row is too much. 
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Male 5,249
robthelurker yeah fancy
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Male 6,375
I think I’ll go watch the Wizard of Oz. At least that straw man is entertaining.
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Male 42,934
markust123 So the actual reason Cruz had NO criminal record (in spite of 20+ contacts with police, including for violence) and was able to legally purchase his firearm has NOTHING to do with anything? 
Well then.
He didn't "fall through the cracks" which could be 'fixed' with "more laws" ok? It was those very laws that let him get away with it for all those years.
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Male 6,375
5cats What are you arguing about? Your title itself was not true. From that point on how could I possibly trust anything in any of the links of the post?
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Male 42,934
markust123 Really? So the Dems were NEVER NEVER NEVER in favour of armed guards with guns inside schools in America... just because Obama said it should happen.
Links: I want to see them... or stop telling lies. That would also be nice.

And you ENTIRELY IGNORE my entire point (like you always do, fuck): the ONLY reason Cruz legally bought a gun was because of OBAMA's fucking orders... you have nothing to disprove that, so why do you keep lying?
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