Why Did The Mainstream Media Come Down So Hard On Trump's Military Parade Request?

Submitted by: 5cats 3 months ago in News & Politics


As the liberal-left descends further into anti-Trump madness, it becomes more and more obvious they've lost their collective minds. To them Trump is some sort of demon from hell which not only must be 'proven wrong' but utterly destroyed. And also anyone who defends him or the facts which don't match their delusion.

Mention to them there there is zero evidence Trump ever 'colluded' with any Russians and they scream at you. Point out that at least two high-raking Democrats probably did contact and hire Russian Agents to dig political dirt and they scream at you. Point out that Obama and other presidents deported illegals, declared nations to be unsafe for migrants to come from, or held military parades? They lose their minds entirely.

This Frontpage article looks at just how far "down the rabbit hole" the MSM and liberal-left have gone and why it just shows how abnormal they have become.
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Meanwhile? This:
https://hotair.com/archives/2018/02/12/breaking-white-powder-sends-trump-daughter-law-hospital/

The violence from the liberal-left continues unabated, stoked by the DNC and MSM.
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This would be a massive waste of money, which conservatives are supposed to be against.  Also, when you have the biggest dick in the locker room, it speaks for itself.  You don't need flashing neon lights to advertise it.

The biggest negative (to me) is just how big of a terrorist attack target this would be.  I don't know how this could be secured enough to prevent an attack on what would be the most tempting target in human history.  An attack on the United States dick slinging parade would be the wet dream of every terroist group
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Male 870
david-morris If my package is insignificantly tiny, how much neon should I buy? I'm asking for a presidential friend...
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Male 627
Hitler did it already.....And North Korea.And Russia....and China.....
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Male 6,159
"Why Did the Mainstream Media Come Down so Hard On Trump's Military Parade Request?"

Yes, why would people object to the President of the United States wanted to roll tanks down city streets in a show of force that mirrors dictators self-gratifying parades around the world? Why indeed. I hope you are getting paid for this blind devotion.
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markust123 They hold parades with military personnel and equipment every single year in DC and lots of other American cities too.
https://www.tripsavvy.com/annual-parades-in-the-washington-dc-area-1039068

Several leading Democrats suggested bigger military parades exactly like Trump suggested) during the Obama years... no one lost their minds...

Tanks were regular features in lots of parades throughout American history:

https://www.dreamstime.com/photos-images/desert-storm-victory-parade.html

Obama sent troops and tanks to Poland, put them on parade there too:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/15/us-tanks-join-polish-army-parade-as-military-ties-/

This article (which you never even read) points out EXPLICITLY how the liberal-left are actively re-writing history to match the lies they spread today. Just like you!
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Male 6,159
5cats, "They hold parades with military personnel and equipment every single year in DC and lots of other American cities too."

That is a list of parades throughout the year. Some with with sets of troops matching. Totally different thing. Classic 5cats Straw man. Swing and a miss.

5cats, "Several leading Democrats suggested bigger military parades exactly like Trump suggested) during the Obama years... no one lost their minds."

Random statement with nothing to back it up. Wiff.

5cats, "Tanks were regular features in lots of parades throughout American history:"

A single tank in George Bush's 1991 victory parade for Desert Storm. A victory parade is waaaay different than a show of force parade. You may need a T-Ball stand.

5cats, "Obama sent troops and tanks to Poland, put them on parade there too:"

American tanks and soldiers joining an annual military parade in Warsaw as a symbolic show of U.S. military involvement in a region shaken by Russia. That's somehow related? Do you want someone to just hit it for you?
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markust123 So the FACT that they already have military personnel and equipment in existing parades DOESN'T MATTER?
HAAHAHA! Oh wait you're serious...
So the FACT that Democrats suggested the exact same thing in the past and no one cared DOESN'T MATTER?
HAHAHAHAAA! Oh wait you're serious...
So the swarms of aircraft the did a 'flyover' (and do so regularly at many events in America and Canada) DOESN'T MATTER? And you're positive there was only ONE TANK in the entire parade?
HAHAHAHAAHAA! Oh gosh, you're a fucking moron.

Thanks again for PROVING this article is true! :-)

Hey! I thought America was "shaken by Russia" when they destroyed democracy and altered the real results of your election? Oh wait, that was Hillary colluding with Russians to destroy democracy, just like she did with the DNC nomination process. (Only she didn't use Russians for that, afaik).
By "your logic" a military parade should be welcomed! Required even!! But nooo... Trump be ebil must impeach him noooow!
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Male 6,159
5cats I don’t really know how to decipher this. It just sounds like the rantings of a lunatic.
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Male 42,934
markust123 You ignore the facts because they disagree with your twisted hatred-filled mind.
Simple really.
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Male 6,159
5cats No, I honestly don't understand how you can associate a standard parade or even a victory parade with what Trump wants. You using a link to desperately compare the want of a dictator-like-show-of-strength parade to a standard parade is classic 5cats dishonesty. You throw up a bunch of crap to try and distract from the truth of an argument. You're a real piece of work.
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markust123 I associate it with things the high-up Dems have also suggested during Obama's term. NO ONE made a fuss then.

You are proving what this article (which you obviously never read) is saying and don't have clue #1 how dumb you look.

"the President of the United States wanted to roll tanks down city streets in a show of force that mirrors dictators self-gratifying parades around the world?"

Hysterical! In both meanings of the word. So ALL the past US Presidents were mirroring dictators? Fuck off.
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Male 6,159
5cats Yeah, I’m the hateful one. Rolls eyes.
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markust123 Your tolerance of Trump is the proof... yes you are (in this case) the one so blinded by hate you can never admit Trump is even a human being! He is UNTERMENCH and must be destroyed! Along with anyone who supports him even disagrees with that!!
That's you, now. And you ignore my points because you have no answer, only hate.
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Male 6,159
5cats I'm sorry, the rabid Obama hater who couldn't find anything he liked about Obama is scolding me about hating on a president??? That might work on someone who just joined IAB. To use your own words, fuck off already
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Male 2,141
5cats The image and link were for a victory parade. 
What fucking victory is Cadet Bone Spur celebrating?
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Male 42,934
oobaka The destruction of ISIL perhaps? The second victory in Iraq? The first one was by Bush II, then Obama let half of Iraq fall into enemy hands. You know that "JV Team" that he joked about? Yeah them... Obama lost to the JV Team.

How about the nuclear crisis in North Korea? You know, the Nukes Clinton let them have? The Nukes Bush didn't stop. The Nukes Obama pretended didn't exist? That's a rather important world-wide issue yes? That America has been committed to for oh... 60 years now? Or should America just abandon its allies in the region?

It is much better to SHOW the enemy you are strong that to try to PROVE it in battle... anyone with an ounce of common sense knows this.
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Wouldn't it be awesome, if instead of wasting millions of dollars on this bullshit that is meaningless to everyone and surely a pain in the ass to the soldiers that have to participate, we instead used that money to improve those same soldiers quality of life?

We just shut down the government again because its so broke, but we are gonna waste how much money on this shit and for what?
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daegog if he gave a shit. 
The silver spoon disconnection period, if that was a valid excuse (it's not), is over. During that, you could say he is a idiot. He is still and idiot, but also doesn't give a shit. just heard on tv how president Einsehower had said that military parades would make us look weak. But what does someone like Eisenhower know, I guess!
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Male 4,756
This might be the highest rated 5cats post EVER!
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Male 42,934
kalron27 You have no concept of how the (broken) rating system works eh?
Not many members do ;-)
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Male 11,991
kalron27 That's because he hasn't flooded the post with comments racking up negatives. 
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Male 4,756
holygod and in one fell swoop of comments, a highly positive thread takes a dive into the negative :)
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Male 6,159
kalron27 He’ll blame “liberal trolls” for down voting every comment of his, ignoring the fact that the one comment at the bottom where he was being civil didn’t get down voted at all.
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Male 578
The manchild wants to be king.
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Male 2,141
bearbear01 Not wants to be...he thinks he is
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Female 8,367
Why is wanking over the military okay? They do a job- one they sign up for and get paid for, they are not fucking saints- rather a large number are as thick as shit and simply signed up as the military will take practically anyone. The hardware is a really large money making enterprise, parades are tax paid advertising. SURELY money should be spent on looking after the poor bastards who sigend up- had body parts raining dowwn on them for a while and will forever need gentle care- and ( here's a thing) trying to make quite sure it stops. Because every year I wear a poppy on the day the guns silenced to suggest 'never again'- and its never fucking stopped. 
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madduck Well said.
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Male 11,991
madduck Yet we slash funding for social and education programs while increasing funding to the military.

Plus you forgot the most important point. The reason we need a military is because people want to attack us. The reason people want to attack us, for the most part, is because of things our military has done. Kind of counter productive.
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Male 938
-1 Retards being retarded.
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Male 429
This ought to get the point across.
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mentott510   And this just exemplifies the article.
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Male 2,251
Have any of you actually read the article?
You scream at the top of your lungs and prove it true.
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Male 42,934
casaledana Not one of them read it, and even if they did? they'd just scream at the top of their lungs anyhow :-)
http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/359531-protesters-scream-at-the-sky-to-mark-anniversary-of-trumps-election
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Male 5,091
casaledana have you been to FrontpageMag.com.. shit its a giant ad for boner pills and miracle oils.
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rumham   And that changes the point of the article how?
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Male 5,091
casaledana do you need some boner oils?
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rumham If you had LOOKED at the article you would have known:
http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/359531-protesters-scream-at-the-sky-to-mark-anniversary-of-trumps-election

Or if you had the FAINTEST idea of reality then you'd know as well. It was reported at the time, dude, as a positive thing!
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Male 5,091
5cats hey you don't read my posts. cause im a cunt liberal who should kill themselves.
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Go fuck yourself.
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Male 3,688
I guess because it's the sort of thing tin pot tyrants do.
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Male 2,141
You all know what's coming right?
Once trump has his grand parade, he'll want a show of force and I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted to detonate a nuke somewhere mostly uninhabited like the Antarctic. 
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First time I've heard Pentagon generals described as "liberal-left MSM".
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Male 42,934
barry9a What current "Pentagon Generals" have objected to this idea? Links please.
And yes, no doubt some "Pentagon generals" are indeed "liberal-leftists" since Obama had 8 years to put them in place...
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Male 11,991
barry9a welcome to 5cats reality. It's scary.
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Male 4,756
Robert O'Neill, The former US Navy SEAL who killed Osama bin Laden, called Trump's military parade "third world bullshit"

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Male 2,141
kalron27 To be fair, this guy claims to be the guy who shot Osama but other members of his team say it's bullshit.
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oobaka Fair enough...but to be in that room...
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Male 5,635
It would save millions if we just gave some porn star 100k to have sex with this dude and keep him preoccupied.
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Male 16,796
Do you really need a parade? We laugh at tin pot dictatorships for their parades. How about save the money and fix the VA instead?
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Draculya Obama fixed it, he promised to, remember that? No?
Funny how forgetful you are, almost like you had "selective amnesia" like your hero: Hillary...
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Male 1,752
why?  Because they hate Trump (and by correlation the AMERICAN PEOPLE too).  that is why.
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Male 11,991
spanz lol. Keep on trollin' dipshit.
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Male 5,091
holygod but they want america to be great again.  
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Male 11,991
"anti-Trump madness" like praising a wife beater....
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Male 4,756
holygod ...while not acknowledging the victims...
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Male 11,991
kalron27 ALLEGED victims. Remember if the accusations are against Hollywood liberals or democrats it is fair game, but if it is against clergy or republican politicians it is ALLEGED.
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Male 4,756
Independent's take on the matter.

We don't need to have displays of military power, our nation has grown beyond such forms of dick slinging...until now.

To continue to perpetuate the concept that the US is the "Strongest Military Power In The World" just adds fuel to the fire that we are a nation of idiots bent on "Policing The World".  It's not a good image to have.

This is nothing but a pissing contest between Trump and Un and reminds me of "The Tank Man" footage.  It says to someone like me "we are ready to go to war", which is not the direction nor the demeanor a nation as sophisticated as the US should display.

We are doing nothing but throwing it into reverse and moving backwards into a nationalist mentality whereas we should be looking to the future to be the leading presence in a global society.

Remember people...only one planet...
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kalron27 Honoring the men and women (and trans-genderes and the rest of the alphabet soup) in the military is "America has grown beyond" now? No longer required eh? A bad image to support the troops as they defend your nation.

As they continue to lose their lives across the world, you just want the citizens to forget about them entirely eh? Look forward to the "One World Government" which will bring perfect socialist utopia to all!
Nasty.
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Male 206
Rails against Kim Jong Un...wants to be him
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Male 9,484
So, for future reference: According to Liberals...

This is offensive...

while this is not...
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Male 6,159
megrendel What's hilarious is if you actually clicked on the link from the picture of the parade that you used it is from an opinion piece titled Trump's Toy-Soldier Fantasy.
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Male 578
megrendel one is free the other is not. 
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Male 5,091
megrendel you're pretty disconnected. its like leave it to beaver vs. stranger things
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Male 8,967
megrendel Marching bands = Tanks in demented Conservative minds like yours eh?
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Male 9,484
@, most sane people are not afraid of tanks rolling in a parade.  I'm in the middle of Mardi Gras (it IS Lundi Gras, btw..and tomorrow is Mardi Gras Fat Tuesday).   A few tanks and military precision would be a welcome relief from the drunken masses we have now.
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megrendel What's offensive is the millions of dollars and hundreds of man hours wasted so that little donnie can see the new toys he can play with...deploy.
The women's march didn't cost the American taxpayers anything...or at least comparatively little. 
Spending money for this is offensive

as long as almost 50 000 of these are around.
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oobaka Your pictures don't show, they're probably protected from hotlinks. You can see them because they're in your cache, but we cannot.

Anyhow, they won't get paid if they don't march? Is THAT how this is a "waste of money"??? Did you even think before saying something THAT stupid? They train (and get paid) every day, sheesh.
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5cats They did show up until recently. 
Who said anything about not getting paid?
I'm talking about the cost of a pointless parade that will only serve to boost the already bloated ego of the almighty orange simian. 
Fuck...even his semi retarded ass kissers at fox and friends think it's not a great idea. 

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oobaka You claimed it would cost "What's offensive is the millions of dollars..." and also claimed other parades cost little or nothing. While it might cost millions? most of that money would have been spent that day anyhow. And other mass marches cost quite a lot too, but it is part of the government's job to provide things like security (police) and clean-up crews (for the leftists, the right-wing cleans up their own parades).
So, that!

And you could see them because they were in your cache, you'd need to search for the same picture and re-post by editing the comment.
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oobaka This is the first time in a while where My 3 cousins, my uncle, his wife, My 3 co-workers have all agreed on something. They are all either Active Serving Military or retired.  None of them support this spectacle at all.  The current serving military members couldn't opt out, they would be ordered to be there, that takes them away from their families, it's MILLIONS of dollars to get all of that hardware down there.  It's a colossal waste of money.  As I said below if Trump wanted to honor the military, give them a raise, cover their expenses and bills, give them great healthcare.  That's the things they want.
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normalfreak2  They just got a raise.
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normalfreak2 That's the things they need. Not a fucking parade to please a man child.
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megrendel The military parade you show above does not equivocate to the "military parade" Trump is suggesting.  Here, this is a better example:


 
See the difference?
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kalron27 Are you claiming that particular parade IS OFFENSIVE?
Wow, you've proven the linked article is correct, thanks!
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kalron27 No difference.  Libs find one 'offensive', and find women dressed as pussies as 'empowering'. 
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megrendel who exactly is calling marching bands offensive lol.

This is one of your worst strawman arguments in ages.
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megrendel 


Why don't you pressure your local politicians to host that type of event near you, I love that my country has things to love about it without a tank rolling down the street to "inspire me" displays like that are a little to authoritarian for my taste, doesn't have to be a liberal thing even veterans are split on the subject. We already have the air and sea shows if you're a fan of the equipment.
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megrendel No difference? One had tanks rolling down the street and the other was a marching band.
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holygod Well, most sane people are not afraid of tanks rolling in a parade.  Would be a welcome change from the drunks parading downtown today and tomorrow. 

And, for parade purposes, there is not much of a difference. 
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holygod Tanks 'roll down the street' in that 1992 parade as well, ok? multiple ones, not "ONE" like Markus claims! LMAO! How can he be that stoopid?
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5cats Yeah, I was way off there. Looks like Bush Sr. had a lot of hardware at his victory parade. But at least I got the year right. It was your own link. What’s your excuse “stoopid”?
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markust123 A typo. That's what you've lowered yourself to? Crowing Victory over a fucking typo? SMH you're lower and lower every day now...

Shove it up your ass, ok? You got caught spouting shit about things you know nothing about. Plain and simple. At least you sort of admitted it, but not without trying to cover your ass! That's only a half-assed admission, it's really a shitty one actually. You should be asshamed but I know that's beyond your ability...
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holygod but america needs to be GREAT again!!! i have a hat that says so. !! 
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Male 206
holygod they are exactly the same.  Only snowflakes think a tank and a marching band are somehow different
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Male 4,756
david-morris I can taste the sarcasm from here :)
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megrendel I have no problem with a parade like you posted, nor do I have a problem with how women choose to display their empowerment.

I do have a problem with militaristic displays of power and arsenals.

What is your stance on graphic images of fetus' anti-abortion protestors display?  
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kalron27  I do have a problem with militaristic displays of power and arsenals. 

So, you think the military should be neither seen nor heard?

Does the mere site of a rifle or tank scare you?

Show us, on this doll, where the poor military touched you.

kalron27   What is your stance on graphic images of fetus' anti-abortion protestors display? 

I didn't realize this was a Free Speech discussion.  I find them offensive. But not the fact that they use them is offensive. The fact that such a thing exist to be photographed is offensive. 
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megrendel

So, you think the military should be neither seen nor heard?  The less I see or hear of a military force the better.

Does the mere site of a rifle or tank scare you?  When they are driving down my street, or any street in the US displaying arsenals, yes.

Show us, on this doll, where the poor military touched you.  Show us, on this doll, where the lady dressed as a Muppet Vagina touched you.
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kalron27 So people should IGNORE the brave men and women (and other assorted genders) in the Armed Forces? The LESS you SEE or HEAR of THEM the BETTER?

That's just fucking rude, dude. You owe every veteran an apology.
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kalron27 The less I see or hear of a military force the better.

Thanks for confirming you are a fool.

kalron27 When they are driving down my street, or any street in the US displaying arsenals, yes.

Thanks for confirming you are an irrational fool.
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megrendel I'm a fool because I think that promoting war and warmongering is a bad idea...got it...
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kalron27  ..got it.. 

Yes, when someone thinks that a military parade can only equate to 'promoting war and warmongering', I get that they are irrational, delusional or both. 
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megrendel

Again, I never said I was against a Military Parade.

Military Parade:


Warmongering:


The latter is what Trump wants.
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kalron27 The second picture is of a military parade: you lose
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"As the liberal-left descends further into anti-Trump madness"

You guys took a competent, articulate, intelligent president and blasted him 24-7 because his daughters chewed gum, he saluted with a coffee cup in his hand, and he didn't wear a coat in the oval office. 

You went after him tooth and nail about being a muslim, about not being born in this country, about being a racist.

You dwelled and blew out of proportion every "scandal" you could think of, like a group of IRS agents scrutinizing political groups, some guns from a sting operation accidentally getting in the wrong hands, and a few people tragically dying in an attack halfway around the world.

Meanwhile the worst recession in a century was prevented from being a depression, the stock market trippled, unemployment was cut in half, and two major wars were scaled way down.

All the while you called him the worst president in history. "Madness"? We aren't even in the ballpark yet. Not even playing the same sport.

If Trump was a Democrat you would hate him so hard. Want to know the difference? I'd STILL fucking hate the mother fucking piece of shit. Every time he says or does something I cringe with embarrassment for our country. He has permanently tainted the dignity of the office.
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holygod You've just proven this article correct. Thanks!
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Male 578
holygod a beer to you. That was very nicely put. 
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bearbear01 Yes, he proved the article (which you never read) was 100% true! An excellent and authentic display of leftist group-think.
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5cats yawn. Fuck off, would you.  
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bearbear01 I thought you were going to ignore me? Anyhow, he sure did prove what the article said! Good of you to agree on that :-)
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Male 578
5cats as usual your capacity of understanding is very... challenged. Now, on two fronts. 
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Male 545
holygod Never thought I'd miss Obama, but damn does your comment come close...
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Male 296
holygod Great comment.
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Male 4,756
holygod Trump was a Democrat, until it was more beneficial for him to be a Republican...
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Male 2,141
kalron27 Democrat or Republican. Makes no difference which way he leans politically. 
He's a man child that wants what other people have. He can't handle other leaders who have better toys than he does.
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oobaka Didn't you already prove the article was correct? Well thanks for the double-duty if you did :-)
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kalron27 Are you linking to Cosby because Trump is a sexual assaulter?
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holygod No, it's that sound he makes "MINE MINE MINE" that reminds me of our orange baby in chief.

But Sexual Assaulter will work too :)
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Male 11,991
kalron27 He was a pro-choice, globalist, draft-dodger that never set foot in church and outsourced and off-shored everything he could. Now he's the buckle on the bible belt. It's fucking hilarious.
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Male 206
holygod now, now.  That's all fake news.  It has to be.  Anything that isn't complimentary is fake.  All hail the Dear Leader. (Sarcasm alert)
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Male 206
holygod but he was black
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Male 42,934
david-morris Only half of him was black dude...
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david-morris Boooooo! Not everyone that disagreed with Obama is a racist. 
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johndplorable you are right.  Not everyone.  Just probably about 75%.  Racism isn't always over the top.  When done "correctly", it's subtle.  I think it played a major role in the whole Tea Party movement
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david-morris Shit, you're right. How did we let that happen?
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holygod fake news duh 
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I would prefer a Vietnam Veteran parade.  All the men who did as their country asked and went to that hell hole.

He should have to stare at them as they move past, each one braver and a better American that he could ever be.
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daegog I agreed with this until you went dark. I don’t have a strong opinion one way or the other on a parade, but I am in favor of anything that tastefully honors veterans.
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daegog   Remember a democrat started that too.
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[EDIT: the views expressed by David Horowitz Freedom Center are labeled "far right" by critics only. They do not label themselves as such. Thank you for the clarification, 5cats]

Nice demonstration of the far right David Horowitz Freedom Center views. Thank you, 5cats. For people who are confused about the views of the far right, here is a Daniel Greenfield - the author of the article.
"The Second Civil War": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pNImbXnIn4

Apparently the democrats are running the country right now...

"The Democrats like to call themselves the resistance: the #resistance. They're not the resistance. They're the guys who are running the country right now. They're the guys who are making all the decisions - they make the decisions within the federal bureaucracy. They do it using federal judges who are unelected officials, who insist on imposing their will over those of the electorate." (at 11:18)

Apparently leftists believe both Bush and Trump were illegitimate - and they do so solely because these presidents were not leftist.
"The bottom line is we have a civil war between people who believe as we do that elections decide who runs the country and people who believe that their ideology should decide who runs the country. So, if somebody who is a non leftist wins the White House he's illegitimate because he's not a leftist." (at 18:07)

Get ready for a shooting war.
"We're now entering what may be the final stages of the nonviolent part of the civil war. I don't want it to be a shooting war, but right now we're at the very twilight of this..." (37:08)

That is a very accurate description of things. Thank you. ;)
And 5cats, enjoy the show across your Canadian border!
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boredhuman OOO! Attack the source!! I've NEVER seen THAT before! :-o

And... you're at least the third person to prove this article is true. Thanks for your support!
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5cats It's not an attack, it's a description of the source. Was this an unfair characterization of Daniel Greenfield's views?

Would you agree with Daniel Greenfield that there is a 2nd Civil War in the US, that Democrats are running things right now, and that the Civil War is about to turn violent? If so, then why do you have a problem of me referencing it?! 

"Thanks for your support!"
No problem! I'm always happy to explain where your strange views come from.   


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boredhuman Thanks for proving the article is correct! Again!

And yes, pointing out irrelevant (distraction) things and claiming the logical fallacy of: He's wrong about X so he must be wrong about Y also! It is just so stupid, ok?
Are you NF2 or something? Cannot make any valid arguments at all about the topic, so you change the subject!!! Sheer genius! I've never seen that before either! Wow you must be soooo smrt! 
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5cats "He's wrong about X so he must be wrong about Y also!" - I make no such claims!
What I'm doing is: "the author claims X, the same author claims Y." - I let you and the readers be the judge whether it's right or wrong.

"Cannot make any valid arguments at allabout the topic, so you change the subject!"
The views by the far right are foreign and strange to me. There would be no point of arguing against the far right, if I don't understand it - would there?

My response to the article: every president is closely scrutinized, especially so by the opposition...
I don't know what the article calls the "left". Would you characterize me as part of this "left"? Was he just talking about "the radical left"?

"Thanks for proving the article is correct! "
Please clarify what you mean... I haven't said a word about Trump or talked about reality... 
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boredhuman OH! The "I'm only asking questions" fallacy!

"I'm not trying to disparage Mr.Brown by 'just asking' how many times he beat his wife today, it's just a question! If other people think he beats his wife because I asked, that's not my problem."

You are on a roll now, so many logical fallacies in a row! :-) Double Down again, that sure would prove the article wrong correct! Again.

He makes plenty of valid points. Tons of the have been proven right here on IAB. Do I agree with each and every one? It doesn't matter: you are free to think for yourself. But DO NOT use garbage like Logical Fallacies and pretend they are real. And don't change the subject, that's rude. Go make your own submission about it if you want to.
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5cats Dude, calm down! Stop being so defensive - I'm not attacking. 

Have you even read what I wrote? 
I posted a 40 minute video where the author expands on his views. Then, I stated that I don't understand this author's views despite watching the video and reading the article. 

What did you THINK I was claiming?! What are you defending against?! The fact that I don't understand and don't share Greenfield's views?
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boredhuman "The views by the far right are foreign and strange to me."

That's provocative and you ought to know it.

You tried to smear the author by finding ONLY article(s) which you disagree with, not bothering to see if there's any you do agree with. That's a Logical Fallacy: this article is NOT untrue because some OTHER article is stupid or wrong. 
Slander is not a valid criticism. It is rude.

You do know better, I think? So I have to presume you are doing it on purpose.
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5cats I honestly didn't know that you were so defensive about the "far right" term.
"The views by the far right are foreign and strange to me." OK, I apologize. I did not mean it as slander but as a descriptive term, and it proved inaccurate. Let me correct it to:
"The views by the David Horowitz Freedom Center are foreign and strange to me."

C
ritics call their views "far right." Seeing as the submitted article was bashing the left, I thought it appropriate to use this description. Clearly they don't call themselves far right:

"The David Horowitz Freedom Center is unique among conservative think tanks whose emphasis is on public policy and institutional reform in that it sees its role as that of a battle tank, geared to fight a war that many still don’t recognize."

What would be a more accurate description of the unique political leanings of the  David Horowitz Freedom Center? Do you agree with them? 

I hope the edit to my original post is satisfactory. 
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boredhuman Well that's much nicer then. I've only heard of them a few times, they aren't my homepage or anything.

"Would you agree with Daniel Greenfield that there is a 2nd Civil War in the US, that Democrats are running things right now, and that the Civil War is about to turn violent?"

There has been an organized effort by the DNC and others to by-pass the US Constitution and rule America by force of bureaucracy. They lost the election but refuse to give up power as Law and common sense requires. The FBI, CIA, DNC all colluded with Russians to "dig dirt" on Trump before and after the election day. That is beyond illegal, it borders on treason.
It already is violent! All from the liberal-left. 

Is my article from the DHFC? Why are you ONCE MORE trying to slander the writer or the article using Logical Fallacies? Of guilt by association or by changing the subject? Or just by saying 'scary words'?
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5cats OK, sounds like you largely agree with what Greenfield was saying.
"Is my article from the DHFC?" Yes, it is. Do a little research: The FrontPage Magazine is the first listed program of the DHFC. Where was your article published? Jeeze, on the bottom of your article it even says "a project of the DHFC: Donate now"!

Was THIS an honest mistake, on your part?!

Well, if you didn't know about the DHFC before, I suggest you check them out. - looks like you've read a lot of their materials from their other programs already. Now you know the source and might find more things to your liking!

Just like our discussions about global warming, now I know where your views come from. I wish there was a reputable place to get my political information (like skeptical science is for Climate science). Think tanks seem like a good alternative to scouring various media sites. The problem is that think-tanks could have an agenda they're pushing: here's who has been funding DHFC.  
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boredhuman Yeah I looked at the site, not the parent sponsoring site. My bad! But it still is a separate site...
And it still isn't my homepage...
And it still doesn't change the FACTS in the article.

Except I KNOW ALL ABOUT 'your side' it is pushed on me every time I read a newspaper of watch TV. On both issues. How can I 'learn more' when I have actively researched it already? I can break down (ie Explain) AGW Theory just as well as you can, I guarantee it.

You're big on the Logical Fallacies, were you aware?
The "If only you were educated enough" Fallacy is the backbone of the liberal-left. See the Right just is dumb, ignorant, plain and simple. They're too stupid to know the truth that the Liberal Elites tell us (and we accept without question). Therefor we must educate them! And there's no point listening to their arguments since we already KNOW they are WRONG without even seeing them! Thus we are correct 100% of the time! How can anyone argue with that unless they are idiots! Proof!
(Circular logic is also a favorite of the Leftists, but not exclusive to them)
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5cats "My bad! But it still is a separate site..." FrontPageMag is edited by Horowitz himself!
"And it still doesn't change the FACTS in the article."
Vicious partisanship is a fact. This article looks at the left attacking Trump, and ignores that the right was attacking Obama. It just feeds the rage and offers no solution to partisanship.

"I can break down (ie Explain) AGW Theory just as well as you can, I guarantee it." Let me remind you of how our last AGW exchange went: you make a point, I link a counter point. You make a different point. I make a counter point to that. I'll give you credit for occasionally conceding, like the greenland ice "overstatement".

"You're big on the Logical Fallacies, were you aware?" It's the 6th time you're accusing me here. Is this your new thing? I don't feel the need to address them - I'll let others judge my logic. 
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boredhuman And this article was written by someone else. Are you claiming there is ONLY ONE EDITOR for this site? Really now? C'mon now, really? This is the best you can bring? This weaksauce???

Noooo, facts are immune to partisanship. Facts are facts. Learn to speak English please.

Why should an article about eggs IGNORE the realities of Kentucky Fried Chicken franchises? Chickens, eggs, same thing right? Wrong! Perhaps because that's a different topic? Sheesh... you are just piling up the Fallacies left and... left!!

I said I COULD state it clearly and better, not that I HAVE done so. Sheesh you are dumb of hearing today or what? (Yes I know it's "reading" that's a joke son!) And your summary is pure bullshit and you know it.

And you cannot and have not refuted or denied it. I've "accused you" of it 6 times because YOU DID IT 6 TIMES. Facts! You seem to not know any at all...

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Hey, if the stock market keeps tanking, he's gotta distract us with something till they find a country to bomb.
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holygod Canada
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Draculya They have been asking for it.
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Once again your blindness rules the day.  The issue is you take EVERYTHING Trump has been saying and doing.  He displays countless acts of Authoritarianism.    To compare this to Eisenhower or JFK is RIDICULOUS.  JFK was in the middle of the Cold War, Eisenhower was the end of WWII, completely different times and world events that would shape them.  Neither of those Presidents displayed Authoritarian leanings.  Trump does, Having large artillery going doing the street in Washington is something leaders like Putin, Kim Jong Un, China, and tinpot dictators do.  It's not about the Military it's about Trump.  You want to honor the military, give the soldiers a raise, help out their lives.
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normalfreak2  They just got a raise.
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daegog don't forget how he accepted that Purple Heart from a veteran and said how he always wanted one
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daegog Hey, hey, hey, he had heel spurs.
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holygod 5cats had brainspurs so ease off
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holygod Cadet Bone Spurs knows best!
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