Alien Life Would Be Our Doom Because It Would Mark The End Of Civilization -- Here's Why

Submitted by: fancylad 8 months ago in Science Weird


You think a visit from aliens would be nice? Like ET? Nope, aliens visiting Earth would be bad -- really bad.
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Male 44,857
Don't bother worrying what will happen. If alien invaders come Trump will sell us to them.
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Male 910
This seems to imply that all life follows the same evolutionary path which is incredibly unlikely. Living beings will need to seek out a specific set of resources to keep living.

Who is to say that there is no energy or silicon based life form out there that could live peacefully beside us eating sand and pooping out free energy?

There has been symbiosis in the past, why not again? It's just as likely as competition.
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Male 326
Well, if they want a green card, they’d better go through the proper channels, or the wall will have to be much higher.

Some of you will get that this is meant to be funny. I left this for you.
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Male 7,292
It is the Greys that are the ones humans should worry about
We just want to help end human suffering and stop over population and feed the starving
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Male 6,496
I'm surprised the video didn't talk about the negative impact that proof of alien life would have on the religious world. Many religions rely on the earth being the focal point of God's love. It could destroy religion as we know it. A lot of religious people righteously assume you can't have morals without religion. I can't imagine the debauchery those types of people would allow themselves to be involved in with this safety net removed. 
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Male 5,498
markust123 This is an actual concern for SETI.  While some religions would have no impact, mostly Eastern, it is the Western Religions that would be greatly effected as it directly conflicts with their scripture.

This is a good summary of the impacts, political, religious and otherwise:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potential_cultural_impact_of_extraterrestrial_contact#Theological

This is an interesting but simple follow up to the above:
http://nautil.us/blog/how-will-our-religions-handle-the-discovery-of-alien-life
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Male 8,969
kalron27 Interesting links there, Kalron. Thanks.
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Male 12,787
markust123 The true religions that are based on God's love would have little issue with it, because God has commanded us to love one another, and provided all the lessons necessary to understand Him.  It is His love which is a universal requirement for humankind's long-term success, and since it's universal, any possible alien life too.

It seems like you don't understand a lot about religion at all.  you might want to remedy that by studying them sincerely.
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Male 8,969
monkwarrior Honest, non-hostile question for you, Monk. If alien life forms were discovered who are as smart or smarter than human beings, would you not think it strange that the Bible makes no mention of them? How would you reconcile that? And, yes, I'm aware this is a hypothetical, seeing as we've yet to find evidence of life off Earth, let alone intelligent life.
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Male 12,787
squrlz4ever no i wouldn't find it strange, God is the creator of all things, and scripture talks of enough things that should prepare anyone for the possibility of life coming from unexpected places.
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Male 7,292
monkwarrior Were not almost all genocides performed by religious groups?
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Male 12,787
thezigrat not according to history, but there was a significant rise of genocides performed by anti-religious groups in the last 2 centuries.
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Male 1,139
monkwarrior Name a single one.
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Male 12,787
BuckeyeJoe atheism  eg. "Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism." - Vladimir Lenin 
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Male 6,496
monkwarrior Sorry, I only have the energy to walk down derp lane once a week.
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Male 12,787
markust123 maybe build on a solid foundation so you can have boundless energy?
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Male 658
monkwarrior 

Check it out, yo...
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Male 12,787
abetterworld 10 weeks is a long, loooong, looooooooong time?
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Male 12,787
These fear stories are so ridiculous.

Think of it people.

How successful are wicked people in this world?  Compared to righteous people wickedness fails regularly.

No consider how far they would have to travel.. a long time, a long, loooooooong time.

Think of it.

If wicked are stuck together for a long, loooong time, there's a good chance no one will be alive at the end of that period, mutinies, hate, etc.  However righteous will be alive and possibly expanded.

So think of it:

If alien life came from the stars to earth do you really think it would mean our doom?  Of course not, because they would be so far from home they would HAVE to be righteous to even make it 1/2 way that far.

The likelyhood is that if that does happen, they will not be bad.

But leave it to people who don't understand good and evil to tell you they will be bad, and cause you fear.



Good is far more efficient than evil
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Male 1,139
monkwarrior LOL. Let's re-cap God's efficiency:

1. God creates the Universe and all it's laws and rules.

2. God creates hell for those who disobey.

3. He then creates people. 

4. Those people fuck up his laws, and are going to Hell. 

5. God knew they would do this (he is all-knowing). But his entire creation can't just go to hell, right? Fuck! He screwed up!

So what does he do now?

6. He sends a version of himself to Earth, so that that version can be sacrificed to himself, and this somehow serves as a loophole for breaking the laws that he himself created. 

How fucking stupid is this guy? 
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Male 12,787
BuckeyeJoe a stupid person like yourself would have to get over your stupidity before you could understand God.  You see, your spectacles of bias blind you, and make you claim stupid things.
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Male 910
monkwarrior The world is a random and often times terrible place. Look at Job. "The Lord causes rain to fall on the righteous and the unrighteous"." Good people do not defeat evil in this reality even according to your Holy Book.

Your belief system looks for the defeat of evil after all is said and done, but admits that today, evil flourishes and holds power...
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Male 12,787
toetagmodel2 If your belief is that evil will always be with us, then that would be a flaw with your understanding of the situation.
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Male 3,076
monkwarrior 
Human armies have often travelled far to wage war. I'm not going to call them righteous because they arrived.

Also, alien transportation across the cosmos could be nearly instantaneous.

Lastly, ascribing human emotions and morals to an alien species may be wholly inappropriate.
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Male 12,787
jaysingrimm First going from one planet to another is a far cry from sailing an ocean or marching across a land.

Second, to make such a transport would require great knowledge of how to do that.

Lastly, good and evil is universal, so if aliens exist, they are bound by that same constraint.
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Male 3,076
monkwarrior 
"First going from one planet to another is a far cry from sailing an ocean or marching across a land."

Unless they had the ability to travel significantly faster than us, the trip would likely take hundreds, if not thousands of years. I expect whatever means they'd utilize, it would be comparable to sailing across the ocean, or as I already pointed out, nearly instantaneous.

"Second, to make such a transport would require great knowledge of how to do that."

Indeed.

"Lastly, good and evil is universal, so if aliens exist, they are bound by that same constraint."

I disagree, an alien species may not share our concept of good and evil.
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Male 12,787
jaysingrimm 

"an alien species may not share our concept of good and evil. "  they will be bound by God's definition of them.
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Male 1,139
monkwarrior If God created us in his image, then God must be a fucktard, because he created you.  
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Male 12,787
BuckeyeJoe run along buttercup, it's past your nap-time.
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Male 1,139
monkwarrior it's past your diaper-time.
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Male 12,787
BuckeyeJoe run along snowflake, no need to sink yourself.
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Male 1,139
monkwarrior Naa, gonna stay.
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Male 12,787
BuckeyeJoe suit yourself buttercup.
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Male 1,139
monkwarrior I will.
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Male 12,787
BuckeyeJoe then run along snowflake.
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Male 1,139
monkwarrior Naa, gonna stay.
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Male 12,787
BuckeyeJoe suit yourself buttercup troll
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Male 3,076
monkwarrior 
I don't share your beliefs, but if a god created us in his image, an altogether different alien species may have a different set of rules.
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Male 12,787
jaysingrimm thats only an assumption you've made from a misinformed position.  God's definition of good and evil are universal.  You'll find this out in due time - you can bet your life on it.
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Male 3,076
monkwarrior 
Not at all, but I can understand why you would try to reaffirm your beliefs. I still don't share them, and you don't know an alien species would either.
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Male 12,787
jaysingrimm While i don't know an alien species, i do know that God's definition of good and evil are universal, even though you may not want to accept that.
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Male 3,076
monkwarrior 
You are welcome to believe that about your concept of good and evil.

Those that don't share your beliefs feel no obligation to behave according to them.
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Male 12,787
jaysingrimm And that's why they make fearful posts like this post, because they don't know the nature of good and evil.
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Male 3,076
monkwarrior 
Whatever motivations for the post aside, my point is that any alien species that doesn't share your beliefs, isn't obliged to abide by them. Your god's definition/nature of good and evil would seem irrelevant to them.
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Male 12,787
jaysingrimm The point is you don't know what alien species do or don't, by your own admission.  I'm saying they follow the universal definitions of good and evil as God declared.
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Male 3,076
monkwarrior
We are both speaking about a hypothetical scenario.

"I'm saying they follow the universal definitions..."

Why are you trying to speak with certainty?

I don't feel obliged to follow your beliefs. Why do you think an alien species would?
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Male 12,787
jaysingrimm You can reject the fact that God has set the rules all you like, but every being works within His rules.
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Male 3,076
monkwarrior 
Of course I can reject your beliefs. I don't need to abide by your 'god's rules'.
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Male 12,787
jaysingrimm Of course you don't, you feel you know better even though you're perishing.
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Male 1,139
monkwarrior God's definition of good: Rape, pillage, and murder.
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Male 12,787
BuckeyeJoe run along buttercup, you're in for a rude awakening with that mindset, you can mark my words.
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Male 1,139
monkwarrior you and your evil fake god can run along now.
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Male 12,787
BuckeyeJoe Don't worry snowflake, you'll find out the truth much to your terror, as it's written. 
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Male 1,139
monkwarrior Don't worry monk, one day you will die and your body will decompose and then your misery and confusion will end.
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Male 12,787
BuckeyeJoe We'll all die buttercup, but the misery and confusion you live will finally be understood in your deep terror of realizing  you rejected the truth all your life like a fool.
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Male 1,715
monkwarrior Oh, so will religions state clearly that intelligent aliens have souls ?  Right now the position of all the Abrahamic religions is that only humans have souls.
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Male 12,787
punko who knows, living righteous is the key to successes.
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Male 8,969
punko Oooh. Good question, Punko.
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Male 5,498
squrlz4ever seriously, especially considering that you...the squirrel...have no soul along with all beasts of the land :)
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Male 8,969
kalron27 That's what the human version says, not surprisingly. We squirrels have our own scripture. Spoiler: On the 8th day, God created humans to fill the birdfeeders.
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Male 8,969
kalron27 I think I received a soul, miraculously, when I drinked the remains of that Carmel Macchiato in the trashbin outside the Starbucks. That's when I suddenly learned to type and understand English.
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Male 5,498
squrlz4ever so...just like how Bender got his soul!

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Male 8,969
kalron27 Yes. In my case, it was a rush of caffeine and sugar that could've stopped my heart but had another, magical effect.
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Male 2,331
monkwarrior are you fucking serious?  The human race is the most wicked organism that this world has ever produced. 
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Male 5,498
lockner01 

Destroy...Destroy...Destroy...Consume...Consume...Consume...repeat

This is necessary...this is necessary...Life feeds on life feeds on life feeds on life fees on...

Humans are definitely the most efficient in playing the Game of Life...we know how to cheat others :)
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Male 3,076
kalron27 
Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers!
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Male 5,498
jaysingrimm These are the cries of the carrots, the cries of the carrots!!!
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Male 2,331
kalron27 Humans by definition are a virus.
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Male 12,787
lockner01 there is great sin among humankind, but also great love.  But it's that situation which probably is why humankind is still confined to earth.
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Male 1,139
monkwarrior Not true. We have astronauts in the ISS right now.
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Male 12,787
BuckeyeJoe look up the meaning of L.E.O.
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Male 1,139
monkwarrior Look up the meaning of I.S.S.
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Male 12,787
BuckeyeJoe it's still supposedly confined to earth.  any more stupid issues buttercup?
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Male 607
Alot has to go right with evolution to make it to intelligent life such as us. Dolphins sure are intelligent, but they could never visit another planet.
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Male 18,076
Aliens visiting earth would be bad because they might choose to wipe us out like War of the Worlds. Or just aa bad there could be a reverse War of the Worlds ending where an alien microbe accidentally wipes out humanity, not unlike the Spanish arrival in the New World.

But what this video says is that discovering a dead advanced alien civilization would be especially bad because it means advanced civilizations can be wiped out.
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Male 1,709
Draculya Or worse yet, alert the OTHER advanced civilization that wiped them out.
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Male 3,364
There's a very real possibility that everyone blows off when I mention it.  Maybe there is no Fermi Paradox and no Great Filter.  Maybe, just maybe, humans are the first intelligent species.  (Or, maybe the first species is too far away from us to receive their messages yet.  If James Kirk went to Vulcan and tried a SETI like experiment pointing directly at Earth, he'd get no evidence of intelligent life there.)
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Male 1,709
ricks Or we are in a simulation and are the only 'intelligent' species because of processing power.
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Male 7,292
ricks I am still not convenced there is intelligence evolved in primates
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Male 44,857
ricks If there are more than one civilization, then someone had to be first. 
But I hope it's not us. I'd like to think there was something better out there than humans.
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Male 18,076
ricks

For your argument: The anthropomorphic principle. Maybe making intelligent life if really rare and we are the first. The first intelligent life would wonder why there was no sign of intelligent life.

Against your argument: The universe is incredibly vast and old. So the chances of us being first are infinitesimal small. Maybe we haven't detected life is because they quickly move past using radio waves for communication or they choose to hide. Maybe we have luckily avoided detection and annihilation by some vast evil galactic empire or maybe they can't be bothered to smush us yet.
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Male 1,715
ricks I'm good humans being the first to have gotten this far - that we could ever communicate with.  this doesn't mean we stop looking, or stop exploring, or stop trying to expand our species.

Just don't allow the belief that the universe was created on behalf of mankind to spread.  That kind of hubris is too mind-mindbogglingly unhinged to be permitted to continue.
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Male 8,969
punko Well, I'm glad you're trying to put an end to such nonsense. It was created for squirrels.
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Male 1,836
I welcome our new alien overlords!
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Male 7,292
spanz :-)
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Male 923
Need to read "The Three Body Problem" by Cixin Liu, for a really dark look at one possible reason.  
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Male 5,498
This video is has it all wrong, at 8:11 they simply take off their helmets...did they not learn anything from Prometheus and Covenant?  ;)
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1,059
There is plenty of historical evidence of extraterestrial encounters benifiting the human race and very little of anything bad comming from it. 
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Male 44,857
layla_wilson Yes, because it always works out so well when an advanced people encounter a less advanced people. Just ask the Aztecs and Cherokee and Hawaiians and Aussie Aborigines .
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Male 3,364
layla_wilson Not to be a troll, and we'll have to agree to disagree because neither of us will convince the other, but there is no historical evidence of extraterrestrial encounters.
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1,059
ricks the ancient egyptions, sumerians, aztrcs, inca and Indus valley civilization all wrote extensivly about extraterestrial encounters. If available to you, watch the series "ancient aliens" on the history channel. Some of the episodes are a bit far feched but there is a plethora of strong evidence discussed in it.
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Male 7,292
ricks waves all three arms
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Male 8,969
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