Cleveland Indians to Finally Abandon "Chief Wahoo" Logo in 2019

Submitted by: fancylad 8 months ago in News & Politics Sports


The Cleveland Indians will abandon their controversial “Chief Wahoo” logo in the 2019 season, The New York Times reported Monday. The team’s cartoonish depiction of a Native American mascot first appeared on their uniforms in 1948. In recent years, the Indians have faced intense pressure to cease use of the logo as awareness of its racially insensitive and offensive nature has become more widespread. 

MLB commissioner Rob Manfred told the Times that Indians team owner Paul Dolan “ultimately agreed with my position that the logo is no longer appropriate for on-field use in Major League Baseball, and I appreciate Mr. Dolan’s acknowledgment that removing it from the on-field uniform by the start of the 2019 season is the right course.”

Will the Washington Redskins budge next?
There are 25 comments:
Male 724
The New logo should be a bowl of Curry.

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Male 1,709
The obsession with sports simultaneously amazes and irritates me. 
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Male 44,886
Here is their new logo

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Male 724
That'll make up for the millions of murdered native americans.
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Male 44,886
zeegrr    I didn't do it so ....... not really feeling too bad about that
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Male 910
Gerry1of1 Really? You've never murdered a Native American? Not even one???
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Male 42,934
toetagmodel2 Well I live in Winnipeg, so yeah obviously I murdered a few Indians eh? Who hasn't?
But I didn't murder them because they were Indians! Honest! I murdered them because they were homeless bums, or drunks passed out in a dark alleyway, or I caught that brat walking through my yard... they just happened to be Natives :/ I ain't no racist! Murdered a couple of white folks too, eh? Equality rules!

Plus you just never know: blonde hair, blue eyes, pale white skin? Has native treaty card = native. Can't tell for sure until you're looting the body :/
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Male 326
toetagmodel2 LMFAO! 
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Male 42,934
toetagmodel2 It's on my 'to do' list...
- laundry
- shopping
- murder millions of feather Indians.

Because they all lived in peace and harmony as one pure homogenous culture before Cortez got here... (end sarc)

Serious Question: Can we call them North Indians? The indigenous peoples of North America? Because we already have East Indians (India and the 'far east') West Indians (from the Caribbean) so why not North and South for those in the New World??
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Male 910
5cats Deal. Are white Americans Ultra Western Europeans then?
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Male 42,934
toetagmodel2 I'd prefer we just call all the people here Canadians without the hyphens... but sometimes it is necessary eh? To distinguish.
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6,561
I don't see why they wouldn't considering how much money they can make by selling new merchandise for all the fans.

I think it may have been at Penn and Teller show what a rounded up a bunch of Indians fans and had them explain their defense of the logo to a group of Indians. It was funny to see how awkward it was for the white people.
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Male 42,934
dm2754 Because no sports logos have caricatures of white people or white cultural groups, am I right?


But seriously, they'll make a fortune selling all the new stuff :/
That's why some teams change logos and such things regularly, eh? Sales.
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6,561
5cats you do know they changed that one too because it was offensive. 
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Male 42,934
dm2754 There's 50 more I could link without even trying very hard...
The point is: not every thing is "cultural genocide" some of it is good, clean, harmless fun. Even productive as it associates positive things with that culture... normalization is a good thing, not evil. Making it normal to look on 'group-x' as being, you know, normal? Is good!

Edit: I was unaware they had officially changed it, learned something thanks! Do they still call themselves the "Fighting Irish" though? Or did they drop that also?

Also: Since this is (mostly) voluntary by the team? I have no objections to their changing it. It's their team, and that is a pretty 'outdated' logo eh? If it was league-imposed or some lawsuit? That might be different...

The USC Trojans offend my Greek Heritage!! (lolz!) And the Toronto Argonauts... and.. and... not many teams with Greek themes eh? :->
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Male 326
5cats dm2754 First of all, this is a good point. I'll admit when this controversy first cropped up, I thought is was more unnecessary politically correct crap, but I quickly changed my mind on it. 

The Fighting Irish logo is a source of pride for many Irish people and there is no public outcry to get rid of it that I know of. I think the Indians logo is probably nostalgically appreciated by longtime fans, but (and I have no evidence either way) I don't think many native Americans are wearing Cleveland Indians sweatshirts as a way to show pride in the team or their heritage. 

Ultimately, if something pisses off enough people that they are willing to make a movement out of it, they deserve to have their say and change stuff. It's the American way.    
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Male 42,934
johndplorable Yes, no doubt, if people demand it, sometimes other groups will honor their wishes.
But the debacle with the Minnesota Sioux logo really puts all that to shame. A small group within a small tribe has effectively over-ruled democratic and legal methods to arbitrarily remove that perfectly respectful logo. Why? Who knows. But the tribal council said it was OK. The tribal elders said it was OK. The tribe voted on it: the OK side clearly won. But endless lawsuits and appeals overcame all that and forced the University to change it...

It no longer is about "the will of the people" it's all about "political correctness" (ie: fascism) and the Fighting Sioux logo was an early indicator of what was to come (statue destruction, re-naming & etc) from the "progressive left".



That's a damn fine logo!
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Male 326
5cats I wasn't aware of this story (not a big sports fan), but I'm sure you're right. If it's remotely possible to be offended, PC groups will find a way! 
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Male 5,505
So will they retro censor Major League?  

...Just a bit Outside!
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kalron27 I'm sure they'll treated just like the Dukes of Hazards and pretend it never happened
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Male 6,496
The Cleveland logo is the Native American equivalent of Sambo. This is long overdue.

The Washington Red Skins have the opposite problem. Their logo is respectful but their name isn't.
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markust123 I hear Washington is going with the less offencive "Prairie niggars"
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