There's No Such Thing As An Alpha Male Because Alpha Males Don't Exist

Submitted by: fancylad 2 weeks ago in Science


And if you disagree with this, it's probably because you call yourself an 'alpha male.'
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Male 476
Bonobo may form matriarchal society but they still only mate exclusively (and extensively by all accounts) with the most dominant males.  It is a fact of life that evolution has led to the preference of perceived genetic superiority in females selecting male mating partners.  Similarly males most typically (unless environmental issues force otherwise - emperor penguin, I'm looking at you) will mate as broadly and diversely as possible.

The issue of social vs. sexual Alpha has become muddied as psychologists and business coaches attempt to morph evolutionary traits into human social and commercial structures.  The social structure of a group doesn't have to mirror it's sexual one.  Bonobo are matriarchal as are lions, however they are all 'serviced' by an (or a couple) of Alpha males.

Regarding wolves, yes the pack leaders are the parents, but they are the only ones that breed and have first rights in the pack.  The cubs will split and pair and then form their own 'pack' with them as the dominant.  Nothing is ever that simple.
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Male 348
Ah, the alpha male, Schr√∂dinger's cat of the social world.  Are you an alpha male?  If you have to ask then you're not; but if you're not, but think you are, then are you are beta along with those who've asked.
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Male 4,216
Depends on perspective.. 

If you define Alpha Male as the Dominant male in every possible situation (theoretical and actual) then no, there is no such thing as a human alpha male.

If you define Alpha Male as the leader in a PARTICULAR situation (work, social, etc) then yes there are Alpha Males.

Choose as you like, it's not exactly an issue that most people will care overly about.
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Male 89
"There's no such thing as an alpha male"

Says the very clearly beta male.
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Male 8,792
There exists alpha males because it is a term assigned to males who exhibit certain characteristics.

Dumbasses.  Really crappy 'logic' too.   I present X, if you disagree you are obviously wrong for no other reason that you do not agree with me.

Sounds like a monk..er PUNK that frequents these posts. 

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Male 6,653
megrendel so you're a beta
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Male 4,392
In every sector of society there are leaders and followers dominance and submissiveness. That's what Alpha and beta means. Yes the terminology started with animals but is adopted by the psychiatric community. It is a thing
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Male 93
dm2754 when did people stop being animals?
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Male 4,383
I'm an Alpha Male from the Delta Quadrant. 
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Female 4,659
trimble From Omicron Persei 8?
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Male 40,588
I have to disagree with Adam on this one. If you don't believe humans 
have Alpha Males go back to high school where the pecking order is
clearly laid out for you.
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Male 569
Gerry1of1 His comparison to bonobos is a red herring. There are patriarchies, matriarchies, polygamies, polygynies etc throughout the animal kingdom and they do not follow genetic relation. The differential is mainly an environmental construct borne of necessity to keep the species going. 

I am going to assert that aggressive promiscuity coupled with a negative stance on birth control as currently the most favorable human traits.
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Male 5,311
I'm going to have to disagree without even watching the video. There are people that have such a strong personality you can feel them enter a room without even looking. And these alpha males get into lots of sex scandals because of their animal instincts - they are the strongest of the strong, the best of the best, and survival of the fittest comes into play. Not using this as an excuse. They can refrain from being pigs if they wanted to but I think the excessive sex drive is very real. And no, I do not consider myself an alpha male.
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Male 1,284
markust123 My Grandfather was this way(minus the sex scandals).  He walked into the room and you just knew what he said went.  He successfully built a company, was an expert in his field and was invited on multiple occasions to give seminars at MIT, was a prominent member in a large third party organization related to his field of expertise and won many awards, he was on the cover of a prominent industry specific magazine and a prominent member of the local Rotary club.  I apologize for the vagueness, but want to protect identity as if I gave the industry away, his identity could likely be figured out.

Point is, I know Alpha Males exist because of him.  I also know that really annoying wannabe alphas exist and I can't stand them because they attempt to be alpha by bringing others down instead of being alpha by bringing up everyone around them.
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Male 5,311
waldo863 I thought of my grandfather as Superman but it sounds like yours really was.
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Male 1,284
markust123 That's how we all saw him.  It was very tough when he got Alzheimer's.  His last two years with us I could barely stand to see him.  This once great man who doesn't even recognize me, or thinks I'm my Dad, and looks sickly sitting in his wheelchair and never even spoke anymore.  

On the plus side, I learned a lot of great lessons on how to act from him and plenty more on how not to act from my father(who is one of the wannabe alphas).

Not saying this makes me an alpha in any way.  I pale in comparison to the command my grandfathers presence warranted.  On my best day I can captivate and motivate some people, with plenty of planning, stressing out over it and just barely squeaking by.  He just did it naturally.

I remember one night I was spending the night there and my grandmother was out of town.  There was an emergency in the plant overnight and he got a call and had to go in to deal with some stuff.  So he woke me up and we went, him in his pajamas and slippers, still having that same commanding presence, telling people what needed to be done in a completely calm and competent manner, never being negative and just getting everything taken care of, in his PJs and slippers.

I think it helped he was 6'7" and in good shape.  At 70 you would have thought he was in his 50s.  But he was not the type of alpha portrayed in this video.  He built people up, not tore them down.  He improved the lives o nearly everyone around him just by being him.  The type of guy that would give you the shirt of his back, then spend the rest of the day with no shirt and get sunburned and never bat an eye about it.  THAT is an Alpha Male.
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Female 36
waldo863    your grandpa was obviously a Real Man, not some insecure idiot.  in my opinion, i think a grand percentage of these guys getting in trouble for sexual harassment must be insecure pussies, because otherwise they wouldn't feel the need for such behavior.
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