[Photos] The Fall Of The Berlin Wall, November 9, 1989

Submitted by: fancylad 1 week ago in News & Politics
"Tear down this wall!" -- Ronald Reagan

On the 28th anniversary of the Berlin Wall fall, look back at these striking photos of the monumental event that marked the end of the Cold War and the beginning of a new era in history on November 9, 1989.


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Male 4,281
Who remembers it? Seriously? 
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Male 969
trimble Not all those on this site are old enough to remember.  I was reading engineering at university at the time, but many others were either not born yet or in primary schools.
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Male 1,525
I was in the Army then and went to Germany about a month later (the day after Christmas). They were still in a state of euphoria but it didn’t last long.

I remember the former East Germans with their little Trabants driving down the Autobahn at about 45mph, farting blue smoke...
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Male 41,157
There was a long build-up to that point, it didn't just happen overnight. A chain of events that brought down an entire empire of communism: because people were willing to risk their lives to be free.
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Male 8,071
Boy how times have changed.  We were all about tearing down walls back then and now we are trying to build them.  Reagan is rolling in his grave.
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Male 327
normalfreak2 if only we had kept the pieces ...
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Male 41,157
normalfreak2 You are an ignorant fucker. Revisionist history is for fascists just like yourself eh?

The Berlin wall was there to imprison its own population. The Border wall, which EVERY President since Carter has vowed to build and improve, is there to keep illegal people out. As is the right of every nation on Earth. If you don't like it? Move to somewhere with no borders and no immigration polices. Bye!
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Male 969
5cats Easy, now.  Yes, the Berlin wall was built to control its population, but it was also there to control its borders.  The soviets didn't trust the west (with good reason) and the west didn't trust the soviets (with good reason).

I will also say that its strange that since the '89 the world was trying to back away from the cold war.  Many borders opened up and there was a real hope that closed countries might become more open.

Trade and movement of people increased, economies flourished.  There were problems integrating folks, of course.

The Arab spring brought forth more hope that other countries might open up.  Since the end of the Arab spring, the pendulum has swung hard the other way with xenophobic, populist, and nationalistic governments popping up.  Russia has tightened up significantly since Yeltsin and is flexing its muscles.  Egypt and Israel have hardened, and the US as well.  China has become more expansionist/

Managing individual countries borders are one of the duties of central governments, this is not disputed.  However the "stranger danger" mantra and the ridiculous border security theatre on display in the west simply monetizes unknown threats for political gain.

The pendulum swings back and forth, the world (in general, there are of course many examples that have not moved as much) is currently tightening up because the politics  supporting it are popular atm.  Given time, the politics of openness will resurface and borders will relax again.

Its cyclical, as is the nature of populist government.

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Male 41,157
punko But the fact remains and has never changed: every nation on Earth controls its borders. Every one of them says who can and cannot become a citizen. I have never seen any exceptions to this.

So look what "open borders" has done for Europe: it is teetering on the brink of collapse, of civil war. Allowing millions of military age men to enter as unchecked "refugees" was suicide.
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Male 969
5cats  But the fact remains and has never changed: every nation on Earth controls its borders. Every one of them says who can and cannot become a citizen. I have never seen any exceptions to this.

Yes.  as I said "Managing individual countries borders are one of the duties of central governments, this is not disputed. "

So look what "open borders" has done for Europe: it is teetering on the brink of collapse, of civil war.

So you're saying bringing down the Berlin war was a mistake ?  

Which European country is on the brink of civil war?  
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Male 41,157
punko Nooo, the BW separated one country's citizens by force of occupying powers.

Tearing that wall down did nothing to alter people entering that nation: it was all about freedom inside it. Like if Florida put a big wall on its border, eh? Or more like if Canada put a big wall there and shot any Floridians trying to escape...
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Male 969
5cats It also stopped folks from moving from east berlin to west berlin.  From west germany to east germany.  Two different countries (for a time).  It stopped more than just east german citizens.

The pendulum swings both ways.  The border between Canada and the US used to be far more open, to the benefit of all.  It is only with the changing of policy (primarily south of the border) that it has become a tighter border.  Goods still flow freely as to 99% of the folks moving across.  But the level of observation and tracking used by our neighbour to track our citizens as they move inside our country is entirely out of whack.  You used to be able to walk, sail, canoe, swim etc. across the border, and so long as you registered your crossing by phoning in, you were fine.  Don't try that today.

I despise having the American surveillance machinery spying on my movements as I move through our land and waters.  Having spotlights shining through my tent so that the US border agents can count the bodies inside the tent while were were on Canadian soil is offensive.  Being continuously under video surveillance by a foreign power because we are in visual range of the US border is bat-shit crazy.

Our neighbour set up a mirror on his lawn to reflect the laser pointer used by their observation tower on the far side of the river back at them.  He received a visit from some fine gentlemen in a boat (they didn't set foot on soil, but were way over the border) who instructed him to take down the mirror or risk having their passports confiscated if they set foot in the US. 
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Male 8,071
5cats It was used to keep the WEST OUT.  
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Male 4,281
normalfreak2 No, it was used to keep the East’s citizens in. I'll give you a slight pass for your youth and gullibility.
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Female 452
trimble Actually, it was both.
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Male 41,157
DrCribbens True, a little bit of both, but they never machine-gunned Westerners trying to sneak in (that I recall) but regularly shot their own citizens to death while they tried to escape.
All the surveillance and gun-nests pointed inward, not out :-/
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Male 8,071
trimble Depends on what side of the wall you lived on I bet.  The people who put it up wanted to keep the West out and Keep their people in.
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Male 4,281
normalfreak2 Look, you just couldn't resist making a dumb quip about Trumps wall. I get that, it's who you are but it's as apple and oranges as it gets. Just dumb.
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Male 8,071
trimble Maybe it is my youth, but I don't see a difference in walls.  Walls are walls.  They do the same thing.  Keep one side from the other.  How you try and justify it is your business.   You are the one redefining what walls are.  You want the wall under the guise of "border security" which is completely bunk because we know walls don't work anymore with current military advances.  But you still push that lie.  
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Male 41,157
normalfreak2 Any machinegun nests on Trump's planned wall? Land mines? Anything like that at all? No?

Well fuck you then, big fat liar. You got caught and now you squirm... disgusting.

Dozens of nations have literal, physical walls (including security fencing) on their borders, yet you don't whine about them... except Israel of course... that you whine about.
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Male 4,281
5cats He's just staying with the playbook.
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Male 41,157
trimble Yup, he follows the DNC Talking Points TO THE LETTER every single day. Something he denies of course, claims it's coincidence...

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Male 8,071
5cats WTF talking points?  I don't do those.  Independent thought is what I use.  Once again  you accuse people of what YOU YOURSELF DO.  Stop projecting yourself onto everyone else.
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Male 41,157
normalfreak2 "Hillary is innocent until she's proven guilty in a courtroom" even if she admits to doing it! She still didn't do it!

And stop projecting YOUR projection on me. You literally do follow the DNC talking points verbatim, no matter how stupid or blatantly false they may be. Independent as my left ball...

AND AGAIN YOU IGNORED WHAT I SAID AND LAUNCHED INTO PERSONAL ATTACKS. Fuck you. Chickenshit.
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Male 3,289
Reagan looking like, "Where am I, and what's going on? Where's Nancy?"
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Male 89
I was in the army at the time on a mission.  some of the guys were from the unit from west berlin.  we kept teasing them that they did have a unit to back to :)
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Male 8,715
A truly historical moment.  The rectification of decades long proof of how untrustworthy some allies can be.
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Female 8,127
Of course I remember it... it was a genuinely news worthy event.
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Male 15,339
Yeah I remember it. Made money off it too, buying Stasi night vision scopes.
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