Papa John’s CEO Blames NFL Kneeling For Pizza Sales Decline

Submitted by: fancylad 1 month ago in News & Politics Sports

Papa John’s CEO John Schnatter

Papa John’s CEO John Schnatter blamed the NFL for a plunge in sales at the pizza chain. Because league officials have allowed its players to kneel during the national anthem, in protest of police brutality.

"NFL leadership has hurt Papa John’s shareholders," Schnatter said today on a shareholders conference call. "The NFL has hurt us by not resolving the current debacle to the players' and owners' satisfaction," he added. Papa John’s is also an official sponsor of the NFL and its TV ads are on all throughout the games. "Leadership starts at the top, and this is an example of poor leadership," Schnatter extended his blame to league commissioner Roger Goodell.
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Female 36
What a sad, sad world we live in now with the snowflakes and "safe space' idiots driving 
social common sense straight to hell
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Male 4,211
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Male 1,604
daegog You forgot one thing about Mike Illitch. His company's pizza doesn't taste like ass.
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Male 428
That's a bitchin' camero he's sitting on, tho.
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Male 1,562
No doubt having a product tied to the NFL (which has got to cost a fortune) is a liability right now.  But he needs to be careful: his pizza tastes like shit and if he alienates the drunken fanbase that is ordering his crap only because they saw the ad as they got up from the game to take a piss he is really gonna be in trouble with investors.
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Male 4,211
I think Pro Sports in general are really failing to capture the youth like they used to.  It was a given, while i was in high school that you just watched sports as a guy.

It's not like that anymore, kids spend more time watching video game championships than pro sports heh.  League of Legends World championships had more views than the world series.  Young folks today just don't feel as obligated as we did to watch pro sports.

Or hell, maybe they just prefer video game championships.
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daegog Well, there was a Frontline documentary where one of the interviewees said he was told to stop publishing the results of the traumatic brain injuries from the dead players because if even 10% of boys were not encouraged to play, the whole league would be in trouble in a few years.

I think that the NFL ballooned larger than was sustainable, and now that they're reducing back to what actually is natural, they're panicking and looking for new ways to try to drive revenue.  Those football games in the UK as an example, they're trying to export the sport to a new market of 65 million.

I don't think it's going to work, and if anything the contraction is getting worse.  I live in one of the top fifteen metro areas in the US by-population and while adult fans continue to watch, the local youth leagues are all in severe decline due to the concerns about brain injuries, and it's so bad that the Pop Warner organization is trying to show that it's doing something by partnering with Mayo Clinic.  If this trend continues then there simply won't be the numbers of fans here that are needed to sustain the team or to push for things like expensive taxpayer-funded stadiums.
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Male 3,812
I recently had some local Pizza from a shop that has been on my list.  I had grease\oil running down my hands after the 2nd slice.  New York style fold over...nom nom nom

Papa John's sucks
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Male 5,308
All this talk about pizza. I know what I'm having for dinner.
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Male 3,351
markust123 
Hope it ain't Pappa John's.
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Male 40,575
markust123 Salad ?
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Male 8,203
I blame the shitty pizza.  As someone that lives in Chicago, I wouldn't touch Papa Johns with a 10 ft pole.
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normalfreak2 When PJ's first came to my market, all of the cheapest alternatives were absolutely terrible, and the mass-market pizza like Domino's and Pizza Hut wasn't a whole lot better.  Papa John's pizza was cheaper than Domino's and Pizza Hut, almost as cheap as the cheapest places, and better than them.

Once they got established they stopped offering the carry-out specials and their prices generally went up.  Then Little Caesars started offering cheap, ready-to-go carry-out specials that might not have been as good as Papa John's for taste, but were so cheap that there suddenly wasn't a lot of reason to go to Papa John's.

We tend to get either really good, fairly pricey pizza, or else Little Caesars.  There's not a lot of reason to go middle-of-the-road, as the prices are too much like the premium offerings, and the quality is too much like Little Caesars.
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Male 684
normalfreak2 Malnati's is my favorite, though I haven't been up there in a few years.  What's yours?
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Male 8,203
faustsshadow Lou Malnati's all the ways Great pick btw =)  Next time you are up here feel free to shoot me a message.   Lou's on me. =)
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Male 684
normalfreak2 Absolutely!
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normalfreak2 I'm with ya. Chicago, NY, where ever...there is ALWAYS a local joint that can do it better over national companies. 
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Male 1,562
skypirate and if there isn’t a good local joint open then get a good frozen one.  It won’t be any worse and it will certainly cost less.
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Male 40,575
Papa John needs to lay off the plastic surgery. 
Joan Rivers had more facial expressions than he does.
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Male 1,562
Gerry1of1 well, in all fairness he doesn’t look as bad as Kenny Rogers.
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Male 5,427
Gerry1of1 You and Mel are so right. I went back and looked at the photos above and he has the same frozen expression in every single one, like a mask.
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Male 40,575
squrlz4ever If Papa John gets one more face lift the dr. will be able to check his prostate by poking the back of his head.
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Female 4,659
Gerry1of1 she had more faces than he too

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Male 40,575
melcervini No just the one face with many lifts. Of course after the last face lift she had a beard but....
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Female 4,659
Gerry1of1 I believe it was she that said "If I cross my legs, my mouth snaps shut."
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Male 4,211
NFL ratings are trending down the last 3 years, too many shitty games on and entirely too many commercials.  I love football, but i could not bear to watch cleveland play the niners.
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Male 5,308
Yeah, no, John, it's your big ignorant mouth that has caused you to lose customers. You're a xenophobe and a bigot against gay people. I will never purchase a pizza from Papa Johns. After your comments today I doubt very many black people will either. As a business owner you can't jump into divisive issues again and again and expect to keep the same amount of customers.
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Male 15,408
markust123 yeah +1. I hope the deplorables have enough spare social security money to buy pizza, because he's pissed of all the productive people in the country.
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Male 8,792
There's this thing some people don't recognize, it's called consequences.

The NFL is taking itself down...and many of their sponsors too.
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Male 814
megrendel consequences? But what about Nascar?
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Male 15,408
mischeif954 if you kneel at NASCAR they give your black ass a Goodyear necklace and roast smores as you die.
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Male 10,378
megrendel Yes there are consequences.

You voted for a fucking jackass like Donald Trump.

As a consequence we're talking about football players kneeling instead of millions losing healthcare, impending tax cuts for the rich, possibile nuclear war, and Puerto Rico being sent back to the stone age.

He's taking our country down.

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Male 8,792
holygod You voted for a fucking jackass like Donald Trump.

STIIIIILLLL better than the alternative. 

holygod millions losing healthcare

Oh, you mean the fucked-up mess that is ACA, that people can't afford to use?

holygod impending tax cuts for the rich

Here's a clue: Tax cuts (which are a good thing) tend to only affect those people who actually pay taxes. You can't bitch about the bottom half not getting a tax cut without pointing out that you can't 'cut' what the bottom half is not paying (technically, it's the bottom 45%).

holygod Puerto Rico being sent back to the stone age.

Trump did not cause the hurricane. Trump is not responsible for Puerto Rico being ill prepared. They were not that far advanced from the Stone Age and the infrastructure was not prepared for such a hurricane.

What exactly does the relief look like?
  • Roughly 20,000 federal civilian personnel and military service members, including about 2,200 FEMA.
  • Over 2 million meals and 2.5 million liters of water have been provided. 
  • $52 billion in relief and $200 million a day relief costs.
  • 33% of the island has electricity. (while this number seems low, it's a major accomplishment compared to how hard Puerto Rico was hit and how ill-prepared it was.)
  • 89% of grocery stores are open 
  • 84% of retail gas stations are operational 
  • 75 shelters are open and operating.
  • 82% of waste water treatment plants are working.
  • 80% of Puerto Rico Aqueduct and Sewer Authority customers have potable water.
  • 97% of hospitals, and 95% of dialysis centers are open and operating
  • 78% of bank branches are open and operating.
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Male 8,203
megrendel ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT.  90% of the island is still without power.

Puerto Rico has a smaller population -- about 3.4 million -- but the blackout has lasted for a much longer stretch of time. As of Thursday, just 26% of households had power restored, according to data from the Puerto Rico Electric Power Authority (PREPA).
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Male 8,792
normalfreak2

"Six weeks after the storm, only about 30 percent of Puerto Rico’s grid has been restored." -CNN

"70% of the island remains without power nearly six weeks later." - USA Today. (to make it easy on you: 100% - 70% = 30%)

I'd say your ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT is ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT

You're welcome to your own opinions, but you're not welcome to your own facts. 
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Male 8,203
megrendel 30% of the power grid doesn't equal 30% of residents, try again.
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Male 8,203
megrendel I'm sorry I didn't quantify what I said.  30% has power but it's generator.  90% of the Island population has no ELECTRICITY service.
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Male 10,378
megrendel "STIIIIILLLL better than the alternative."

Fucking insane to me that you can still think that. 
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Male 8,792
holygod Fucking insane to me that any rational, intelligent person could think otherwise. 
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Male 10,378
megrendel For fuck's sake man he went down there and tossed them paper towels and said it wasn't a "real catastrophe" and said their debt was going to get wiped out (but not really). The no bid contract to a 2 year old company with 2 employees for $300 million with ties to the interior secretary alone was unbelievable. 
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Male 8,792
holygod I'll be the first to admit that he's not exactly 'presidential'.  Or course, the fact that he was not an established politician probably got him a lot of votes. People are tired of dynasties in politics.

I've said from the beginning: 
Trump as president would have three possible outcomes:
  1. He'd be a decent president.
  2. He'd be an ineffective president.
  3. He'd be a crappy president.

Likewise, with Hillary there would be three possible outcomes:
  1. She'd be a corrupt president.
  2. She'd be a corrupt president.
  3. She'd be a corrupt president.

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Male 814
megrendel So it's somehow not possible that Trump could be corrupt? Anyone could be corrupt... 

"People are tired of dynasties in politics." His whole family is in office with him right now, not necessarily innately a good or bad thing, but you can't cite dynasty as a reason for his election, and despite installing a dynasty of his own having continued approval by said same people.

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Male 8,792
mischeif954  So it's somehow not possible that Trump could be corrupt?

Anyone can be corrupt.  Only one of the candidates had a proven history of corruption, and it worked against her. 

mischeif954 His whole family is in office with him right now

Look up the definition of 'dynasty'.  
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Male 814
megrendel was Hillary work for the government not the platform she used to advance to the point where she can run? If this presidency is successful, and the family he appointed are part of that success isn't it natural progression to aspire for higher goals after that, or they vanish and disappear into thin air like Hillary did when Bill left office? Or like Jeb and George did after their dad won?

"Bush and his family moved to Washington, D.C., in 1988 to work on his father's campaign for the U.S. presidency. He served as a campaign advisor and liaison to the media, and assisted his father by campaigning across the country."

"Eric Trump was a key advisor, fundraiser, and campaign surrogate during his father's successful run for the presidency in 2016."

Which part of the definition am I missing here?
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Male 8,792
mischeif954 dy·nas·ty
ˈdīnəstē/
noun
1. a line of hereditary rulers of a country.
2. a succession of people from the same family who play a prominent role in business, politics, or another field.

Bush 41 followed by Bush 43 = dynasty. (two family members as President)

Bill as president then Hillary as president = dynasty. (two family members as President)

Which member of the Trump family preceded Donald as President to make him part of a dynasty?

Now, if some time in the future if one Trumps wives or children run from President, then that would be establishing a dynasty.  Simply having family work in your administration does not equate a dynasty.

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Male 814
megrendel He's still acting president... so no none of them are president right now... point being if you look at the examples you cited they have a common thread of involving family in the campaign and administration, so if dynasties were a primary concern you probably shouldn't pick the guy trending in the same direction... Also if you refer to the definition that you  yourself, posted they're already a destiny as they all have prominent roles in politics and his businesses, unless they are indicted for doing something illegal than they'll only have been fetching coffee.

"a succession of people from the same family who play a prominent role in business, politics, or another field."

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Male 8,792
mischeif954 all have prominent roles in politics and his businesses

Please note the second word in that definition: Succession.

Bush 43 succeeded Bush 41.  Had she won, Hillary would have succeeded Bill (albeit, with a gap in between for both).

Currently no family member has succeeded Trump, nor does he succeed a family member.

I get your reasoning, just disagree that it constitutes a dynasty. Hopefully all Trumps will avoid political office after Donald.
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Male 814
megrendel I appreciate that and I get your definition, but I find it as unrealistic to expect them to disappear from politics after his presidency if it's successful as some think it is, as it is to expect all of his family to disappear from the types of businesses he and the Trump brand represent if he were to retire. No not everybody follows in their families path, but usually those people are on their way to finding their own paths at this age. 

Random example, but I don't think his daughter is going to say, "well his terms over" and do a 180 and become a dentist now, her next job will likely be leveraging the connections and experience she's gaining in politics and still starting new businesses.

TL;DR

If you're 30+ and competent working for your parents business you're not just looking to be another employee, you're looking to be the future is what I'm trying to say.
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Male 8,792
mischeif954 Actually, I think there is a better chance of the Trumps (et all) disappearing from politics than the Clintons.

The Trumps HAVE a business already. They have established jobs they can fall back on.

The Clintons' entire business IS politics. 

With Trump, I would like to see him go back to his empire, with maybe the occasional speech.

With Clintons, they're harder to get rid of than year old shit on your shoe.
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Male 1,604
holygod Yea.. Trump caused those hurricanes. Right..
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Male 10,378
squidbush Trump didn't cause them. Where the fuck did you get that? However, he's seemingly more concerned with athletes kneeling for 2 minutes than he is with disaster relief. 

Giving no bid contracts to firms nowhere near equipped to handle the problem with ties to your administration probably isn't great policy either. 
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Male 8,203
holygod People like megrendel have their priorities straight!  Footballers kneeling, Fake news > than NYT, and the country!
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Male 8,792
normalfreak2 People like megrendel have their priorities straight!  Footballers kneeling

Of course, it could be because I was responding to the fucking topic of the thread, no?

You want to talk about NYT and the Country, start a fucking thread and I'll respond to that and try to not deflect the discussion to something not related, say aboriginal underwater macramé.
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Male 10,378
normalfreak2 I used to think of him as a conservative free thinker, but man does he just seem to toe the Trump line on everything. He might as well be 5cats.
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holygod  he just seem to toe the Trump line 

Sorry, I didn't realize calling out rabid anti-Trumpers on their bullshit was 'toeing a line'. 

I don't care for Trump. He needs to stay off twitter and quit making a fool of himself.  If anything he's slightly more narcissistic than Obama was.  

On the other hand, he's actually doing slightly better than I thought he would, but then my expectations were not high to begin with.

Either way, it's still better than the alternative.
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Male 814
megrendel Slightly more narcissistic, how so? I mean if we're talking language "I alone can fix it", "Nobodies ever done ____ as I have" vs "Yes, WE can?" seems to sum up the difference. What are your metrics here besides party affiliation? 

IIRC Obama at least pretended to want to work across the aisle, whether you believed what he was selling is another story.

I wouldn't say your 5Cats but you've definitely transitioned from bringing differing perspectives to the threads to saying whatever will trigger liberals.
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Male 8,792
mischeif954 IIRC Obama at least pretended to want to work across the aisle

I don't recall anything of the kind. I remember him not even looking for any alternate input for ACA, and the phrase 'elections have consequences' was used by him. 

mischeif954 to saying whatever will trigger liberals.

Well, it's pretty much gotten to the point where pointing out facts and truth will trigger Liberals.
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megrendel I could be snarky and ask you to look up the definition of the operative word 'pretend', instead I'll add a quote referring to my post.

'Obama and Joe Biden will "turn the page on the ugly partisanship in Washington, so we can bring Democrats and Republicans together to pass an agenda that works for the American people."'

If facts trigger liberals, perhaps it causes willful ignorance in others.
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Male 5,308
megrendel, "I don't recall anything of the kind. I remember him not even looking for any alternate input for ACA."

How do you still believe this lie? There were 188 Republican amendments adopted in the ACA. Link 
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Male 8,792
markust123 Of the version of the ACA that proceeded through the Senate, of the Republican amendments, only two (2) were actually voted on.  The rest were technical ones. 

In the end, it passed with zero Republican Votes.
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Male 8,203
holygod Had all these investigations happened under a Democratic president Grendel 5cats, Dromed, Trimble would be ALL OVER THEM.  Constant crying of corruption etc.  Their hypocrisy is absolutely ridiculous.
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