Onlookers Witness Roy Halladay Plane Crash And Boat To Wreckage Moments After Impact

Submitted by: fancylad 1 month ago in News & Politics Sports


And know we know why the plane crashed, Roy Halladay crashed because he was "showboating" in his month-old sports aircraft. According to a report from TMZ, the guys who recorded the incident witnessed Halladay's airplane fly upwards, then dip towards the water before pulling up within several yards from its surface. Halladay had been seen pulling the stunt the day before the crash, too.
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Male 1,544
instead of just saying "oh my gawd" about twenty times, maybe this einstein could have tried to pull the pilot out of the cockpit?  Maybe he was still alive for a while.
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Male 3,812
I read the reports earlier about the showboating, sad to see they are true.

Did I hear someone say "Is he in there?...Yeah there is his shirt"?
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Male 15,408
Pilot error, same as the last crash in the same model aircraft. He was hotdogging. I think that model aircraft encourages people to fly like idiots.
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Male 4,216
Draculya Not sure people need encouragement to act like idiots.
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Male 21,133
Draculya The official word was pilot error, to the rest of the world, it was world-class showboating. Lack of respect for what those tiny airplanes can do.
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Male 15,408
fancylad Pilot error just means it wasn't the aircraft's failure.

I've flown all manner of light aircraft. I have an FAA PPL, I've flown float planes, high performance gliders, ultralights and I'm aerobatically trained. I've done a fair bit of low level flying too.

What I never, ever do is fly radical manoeuvres without altitude to recover. I suppose military pilots do, because they worry more about people shooting at them, but many buy the farm as a result.

The problem with this design seems to be the combination of high manoevurability and AoA display which allows/ psychologically encourages pilots to stunt-fly the aircraft on the edge of a stall. Watch the company's promotional videos. It's the aviation version of a Ken Block drifting video.

I think the aircraft is fundamentally safe, but attracts reckless pilots.
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Male 1,544
Draculya read somewhere that this ultralight was marketed to people with "little piloting skills".  ugh.  if you take an untrained person, stick him in the cockpit of a plane, a large percent of them will do stupid stuff.  nobody had TRAINED them how to recover from a stall, how much altitude you lose in a stall, how hard it is to judge distance from a water surface, and on and on.

When i see companies gearing up for "self flying" contraptions....i think "Darwin Award Winner'
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Male 5,311
What the shit? No one dove in to see if anyone was alive and trapped.
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Male 1,544
markust123 exactly my though.  I guess taking a selfie/video is more important than trying to save a human life
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Male 41,611
markust123 Amateurs, without any breathing equipment, swimming underwater with razor-sharp edges (and fuel) all over the place? I think jumping in is out of the question. One snagged bit of clothing and there's 2x bodies to recover.

It's pretty obvious the pilot is dead, and by the time the camera guys get there he's been underwater for a couple of minutes already...
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Male 1,543
markust123 As a Coast Guard S&R pilot, retired, I've seen these wrecks and people don't walk or swim away from then unless the angels are sitting in the co-pilots seat. The only old pilots are good pilots. Peace to him and his family.
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Male 1,833
scheckydamon As and old Coast Guard 41 boat crewman I know that these onlookers may have let this man die because not one tried to help. Its obvious that the water is shallow, probably chest high, and a small plane like this can almost be lifted by two or three people, I have helped lift a plane about the same size with out an engine with two people. with the number of people that were there a real effort could have been made to help get him out even if it was to just lift the plane up enough to get the man out.  They should have at least made some kind of effort. No dis respect to you scheckydamon but you airdails should stick to you planes and let the real sailors take care of the rescue. I'v been basket droped on to a sinking boat several times and I know you can not have any Idea what it is all about unless you are on the deck.
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Male 1,543
casaledana Thanks for the balls! True words but I’m so old we were all trained as air crew/ rescue in those days. Rescue swimmers, and I’d put them guys up agains any branches toughest, had not been invented at least in the Coast Guard. Not formally. Shit I learned in the old 52 c’s. Eyes on the scene, feet on the deck and into danger the Coast Guard goes.
 Semper Paratus mate!
Off topic, I’ve been cruising  the auctions for a retired 44 footer. Some in great shape going for up to 500k. Think it would be the ultimate Tuna boat. Thoughts?
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Male 1,833
scheckydamon  Never road a 44ft. looked at some pics just to see. Don't really know what a tuna boat requires but 44ft looks to busy what with the rear deck house I quess if you could remove it and make a flatter area it would be ok. I will say that as a hauler or to pull nets it would probably be perfect engines geared low for the pull but still able to get you out in good time.
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Male 1,543
casaledana Tuna fishing is rod and reel. Thinking in terms of durability and safety. Out 50 miles and the shit hits the bow and it's nice to be in something that won't sink. They ran us through the Motor Lifeboat school in Astoria, a shortened one, so we could get a feel for small boat handling  and behavours in rough seas is where I became acquainted with them. They're like the little engine that could. Also my first run in with a BMC, other than my CC in boot, that had a pair of titanium ones. I tell folks the the bosuns  mate is the real sailor of the world. Happy vets day and thanks for serving!
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Male 3,812
scheckydamon Yeah, you have to be well trained to do an underwater search and rescue on a plane crash.  Unless the guy was visible at the surface or in the debris it is better to observe and report just as these guys did.
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