The White Privilege of the "Lone Wolf" Shooter

Submitted by: bliznik 2 weeks ago in News & Politics

A small sample of the white lone wolf shooter.

If the terrorist is brown, it's their "culture's" fault. But if the terrorist is white, it's because of that person's unique situation.

An excerpt from The Independent: "PRIVILEGE ALWAYS STANDS in contrast to how others are treated, and it’s true in this case, too: White men who resort to mass violence are consistently characterized primarily as isolated 'lone wolves' — in no way connected to one another — while the most problematic aspects of being white in America are given a pass that nobody else receives.

Stephen Paddock’s whiteness has already afforded him many outrageous protections in the media.

While the blood was still congealing on the streets of Las Vegas, USA Today declared in a headline that Paddock was a 'lone wolf.' And yet an investigation into his motivations and background had only just started. Police were only beginning to move to search his home and computers. His travel history had not yet been evaluated. No one had yet thoroughly scrutinized his family, friends, and social networks.

Paddock was declared a 'lone wolf' before analysts even started their day, not because an exhaustive investigation produced such a conclusion, but because it is the only available conclusion for a white man in America who commits a mass shooting."

Vogue reports that
white American men kill more Americans than Muslim foreigners, yet the White House is still desperately fighting to keep as many Muslims out of the country as humanly possible, and many newscasters repeatedly suggest that "black culture," whatever that is, breeds homicidal tendencies. Apologists like @5Cats will probably point to the fact that, per capita, brown people are convicted of homicides more often than white people (hence brown people are inherently more dangerous, or something?), yet nobody can deny that incidents of violence--particularly murder--are increasing among all demographics.

Which gets me to my main point--expressions of hate are on the rise. These take the form of internet comments, punches and bricks thrown at protests, and random acts of terror. This doesn't seem unique to Muslim jihadists, to black gang members, to white nationalists, or to antifa protesters. The more we incentivize these expressions of hate, the more prevalent they will become.

Maybe the more white terrorism we see, the more people will realize that violent outbursts aren't only a Muslim problem, or a "black community" problem, or a "white nationalist" problem. It's a World Problem (particularly in America and the Middle East). That's the interesting thing about white privilege--people give a lot more deference to white people and will look at other reasons besides the criminal's race, religion, or culture for their actions.


...or maybe we'll just continue to blame only brown people for violence. *shrug* We'll see...
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What privilege do you speak of? All these people are either dead or in jail. 
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Male 4,242
i used to work with Matthew J. Murray at South Seas Data for a time till he was fried.
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Male 25
So I hear many persons (here and elsewhere) saying "Your ideas to curb gun violence (restricting access to various persons, restricting certain types of weapons, restricting certain types of weapon modifiers, restricting certain number of weapon purchases in a certain amount of time.... etc...) are complete bullshit because of x,y,z reasons."  Ok, I'm not convinced but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.  What is your idea to curb this type of situation.  Clearly, if the concertgoers  had guns it would have made little difference.  So what you got?
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Male 40,764
dwaterd There is no way on this Earth to entirely prevent such an attack from ever happening. Period. 

Only police vigilance and tips from family, friends, neighbors and people who happen to see him lugging guns up to his hotel room are possible ways to prevent an individual from carrying this out.

Total confiscation is utterly impossible in America. Or Europe for that matter. Even China's draconian and totalitarian empire cannot achieve that. And they had hardly any guns to begin with! They've been severely restricted there for 300+ years now!

So why take guns away from law-abiding citizens who will NEVER use them in a crime? And leave all the guns in the hands of the criminals? And the police who are running around murdering Black children in the streets. (According to the SJWs)

2 weeks ago? Could you have spotted the shooter as a potential mass killer? How exactly? What reason would you give to take his guns away and arrest him?

Welcome to IAB! That was affair question, I hope I gave a proper answer(s).
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Male 40,764
When two gay, Black Muslim men went on a shooting rampage no one called them terrorists:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D.C._sniper_attacks

Even  though one of them started claiming (after arrest) he was motivated to 'jihad' against America by Allah? Few believed that: "Some investigators reportedly said they had all but eliminated terrorist ties or political ideologies as a motive."

(Although 'terrorism' was tacked on to one of his trials, after he'd already been sentenced to death in another one.)

So: this post is full of lies.
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Male 5,024
5cats Nowhere in your link does it state that these two were gay or lovers. You're spreading a National Enquirer lie.
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Male 40,764
markust123 Nope. They were homosexuals. The younger one spoke extensively to police about their sex life. His lawyers used that and his age to try to get reduced sentences, saying he was manipulated (controlled) by his love.
Sorry, it's a stone-cold fact.
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Male 40,764
A blatant lie: the MSM brands every single Muslim terrorist as a 'lone wolf' until the facts prove otherwise.

Here: A very brief article about the truth:
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/10/mass_shootings_and_the_lefts_culture_of_dissidence.html
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Male 683
While white people commit crime and mass shootings but are under represented. They have commited 53% of mass shootings despite being 63% of the population. Its nor that its unique its that it is morw prevelant. But true lets look at the differences of why white people commit these types of acts less and what is causing them. Is it priviledge? Its its poor white people not feeling thier priviledge and being told how good they have it?
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Male 287
Most white murderers are lone wolves, same with most white rapists. Most african american murders are related to gang violence. Most murders in middle east are driven by religious ideology. Most rapes in the west from MENA criminals are committed in groups. This has nothing to with white privilege and everything to do with facts.
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Male 3,480
Fojos You are missing the point.

If we can ascribe the black murders to gangs, which would mean fights for territory/revenge shootings and we can do the same with muslim middle east murders (which is literally the same thing with a religious theme attached to it).

Then WHY are the white people committing these shootings?  If you claim because they are crazy, then that is privilege.

Do you understand WHY that is privilege?

BTW, What is a MENA criminal?
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Male 1,316
daegog i certainly don’t understand what’s leveled General has to do with this
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Male 287
daegog It's not privilege, it's statistics. They are committing them because they are crazy. What you need to understand is that all the other groups have these lunatics. Difference is that white people are much less likely to commit murders (or violence) outside of this sphere. While as an example african americans are very slightly overrepresented in lunatic killings, they are extremely overrepresented in gang killings or armed assault with intent to rob or murder.

MENA = Middle east north africa. In Sweden they are a small minority but still responsible more than 50% of violent crimes (almost all murders in later years).


TLDR: You're forgetting that these "underprivileged" groups are plenty among this group AND other groups.
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Male 3,480
Fojos Statistics are funny things, you do realize that statistically, as a human you have half a penis and one testicle?

Let me ask it a different way, do you understand why the concept of privilege is INFERRED by others (clearly not yourself) upon white shooters in this regard?  if so, can you explain your understanding of it?
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Male 287
daegog They didn't infer anything because that assumes reasoning and evidence. They speculate based on "the grass is always greener on the other side". 

Statistics are not funny unless you don't know statistics. An example like this gives some evidence to the latter.


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daegog my best guess is Middle East North African. But overall I don't know either
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Male 8,550
Got my check this month, so I'm good.

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Male 3,480
Was he a "terrorist"?  Was he just a nutter?  Doesn't matter all that much.  

Evil exists and it is well armed.
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Male 4,152
So much dumb speculation. Why not wait for all the facts to come out? (assuming we will be given them all of course and there is a strong possibility we will not be).
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Male 5,462
one thing for sure, hate is definitely on the rise these days.   I've been fighting it for a long time, and it continues to increase.  I'm pretty sure it's going to get a lot worse too.
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monkwarrior Fighting hate is much like trying to fill a sieve with water. 
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layla_wilson Not really true, it can be fought with love.  What those fighting with hate will eventually realize is that it's no match for love.  But there's an old saying "Evil will triumph when the good person does nothing", and i think a lot of people who give up envision it like trying to fill a sieve with water, but for me i know how to not let it take the best of me and still succeed (taking the best of those who hate).
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Male 25
monkwarrior 

Except it usually turns into.... I will resist you with my love, or lovely ammo... until you are dead... yay!
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Male 5,462
dwaterd maybe in your nation, but it's now a write-off. It's kind of sad too, since someone once said "Only love can drive out hate" - MLK
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Male 25
dwaterd 

Not tha I agree with tha approach.
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Male 756
So he filmed himself doing this. Batshit crazy springs to mind.

Also: Filipino girlfriend -- We ALL know what type of blokes have to go to Indonesia/Malaysia etc (Asia) to get a GF....

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Male 676
stifler Hey! What are you inferring?
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Male 1,316
daegog wow, a semen flavored flute!  Where have I seen that before?
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Male 1,316
daegog once you pay for the room you pretty much have to make the best of it...

P.S. sleep on your back and keep your mouth closed.
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Male 676
daegog Looks like I dodged a bullet there having just got back from Thailand.
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fuad119 bkk or patts? xD
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Male 676
layla_wilson Phuket
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daegog looks like fun, but the one on the left is female.
The one on the right though... Would most definitely get It...
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Male 461
He cannot be a terrorist because terrorists are political.  "the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims."  Unless this is proven to be a politically motivated attack, he's just a nut-job.
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Male 7,936
wibble4321 you are missing a section, Political, religious, or attempts to change how society works.

Regardless you are correct that he is not a terrorist by legal definition.  I believe personally that he was, if you commit mass murder you have changed how Government and peoples way of life.
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Male 287
normalfreak2 the motive has to be this. Many things can change society without any explicit motive to do so.
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wibble4321 Navada state law defines a mass shooting as a terrorist offence, therefor he's a terrorist.
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layla_wilson The state of Nevada can define it how it likes.  Personally I think that is a poor definition as terrorism has to be executed with the intention of change.  With the intention of change (political, religious or social) using violence, force or the threat of force to compel change against the policies of the incumbent.  Otherwise it is an act of wanton violence - albeit a terrible one on a huge scale.

Given the fact that the guy was prepared enough to scout, book two hotel rooms, install cameras to monitor police approaches it seems unlikely that he forgot or neglected to state what his aims were if he had any.
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wibble4321 did he or did he not create a huge amount of terror? people nee to stop swearing allegance to the dictionary like its 100% correct in all definitions. 

Common sense is all that's nessicary to realise that what he did was terrorism.  
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layla_wilson Creating terror is not the only requisite to being a terrorist or performing an act of terrorism.  If that were the case then spiders and Stephen King would be terrorists.  Language is specific and for good reason.  Misappropriation of language leads to misunderstandings and, in the case of Nevada apparently, poorly thought out and worded legal definitions.
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layla_wilson  No he is not.  While he meets MY Definition of Terrorist he does not meet the legal definition of terrorist.
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normalfreak2 The state's statute says an “act of terrorism means any act that involves the use or attempted use of sabotage, coercion or violence which is intended to cause great bodily harm or death to the general population”. 

If state law classes that as terrorism, it is a terrorist offence in said state and therefor he IS a terrorist. 
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layla_wilson Technically doesn't matter since he's dead. They can't charge the dead with a crime. Otherwise, yes his actions caused terror, therefore, terrorist.
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squidbush agreed. Regardless of motivation what he did caused terror just the same as an Islamist extremist setting off a bomb. Terrorism plain and simple,
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Male 461
layla_wilson Just because the words have the same root doesn't mean they are interchangeable.  Causing terror does not make one a terrorist.
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layla_wilson I'd argue by the legal definition he is a terrorist but in a broader sense, without any ideological endgame he's just a nut job. I wouldn't be surprised if the legal definition of a terrorist was changed post 9/11 to allow law enforcement greater leeway when dealing with criminals. Just because something is defined in a legal way doesn't make it true, it's just bound by the law.
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Male 2
It's called the outgroup homogeneity effect. People assume those outside of their group are alike while seeing the differences within their group. White folks are the dominant social group and media presence so the outgroup effect from their view is more common
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Female 8,056
Well said. I doubt this is the biggest mass shooting either- there must have been bigger ones further back in time. 
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madduck I don’t think so (excluding wars obviously) have gotten weird in the last 30 years.

You didn’t have these events every year or two and to kill large groups of random people is just whacked. 
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woodyville06 - I'm not sure how they define it- is it single shooter? If not I'm quite sure bigger ones have happened. But a country with easy access to guns, with a small percentage having most of the guns ( means that percentage has a serious relationship with guns) a very divided society and a really hysterical media (see Ebola reporting) some heavy duty nutjobs (see Alex Jones types) you have a perfect storm. We don't have guns in the UK, so our rather rubbish terrorists are reduced to cars or vans- but as a group we tend to take the piss out of them- regard them as rather sad and smelly types. It probably helps avoid this type of twat ( I still think he got sick of the noise- it would drive me to murder)  as they don't get nearly such exciting coverage....
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Male 87
Seriously?  The dust hasn't even settled and people are making assumptions.   Just chill until the facts come out.
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Male 9,766
I honestly think this is the scariest mass shooting in history.

You could look at most of these guys and your spidey sense would tingle. They reeked of wide-eyed maniacal insanity.

This dude screamed normal by all appearances. This is joe any man.
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Male 87
holygod you are what's wrong with America.  Stop being so scared and engage with the rights and responsibilities of the constitution.
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Male 9,766
grryan What in the batshit crazy fuck are you talking about?

My right to have a jury trial in a civil suit over $20?
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holygod You're scared and don't want to participate.  I'm not sure about the cost of a jury trial.   Go buy a firearm and train yourself. 
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grryan 

"I'm not sure about the cost of a jury trial"
My guess is you couldn't name 6 of the 27 amendments. Most of the people screaming about "THE CONSTITUTION" only mean #2 or #1. Maybe #4 and #5. They're usually the ones who have no fucking idea what is actually in the constitution.
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Male 9,766
grryan I own two firearms. I'm not special ops by any means but I do go to a range and I'm a decent shot. It wouldn't have helped me in the least had I been at that concert. What would you have done?
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grryan "you are what's wrong with America"

The people who react to a mass shootings by arming themselves are what's wrong with America.
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holygod Scariest part to me is what about ACTUAL terrorist types?

What if they get it into their head they dont need to come up with fancy, timed explosives and overly complicated plans.

They just need a high vantage point, a lotta ammo, and a lot of targets.
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daegog whack jobs do what this guy did which is bad enough. if some cool headed organization wanted to fuck with us they could think creative alternative things up that we can’t imagine and we wouldn’t be able to do shit about it.

Look at the sabotage at the Metcalf power substation in California. That was truly special ops grade work.
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daegog Ive seen a documentary where there's Americans shitting themselves because they fear terrorists will collude with the Mexican drug cartels and smuggle WMDs into the U.S. through drug 
Tunnels. But as for not coming up with fancy plans, that's what's happened in the UK, mostly car ramming and stabbings (because they can't get ahold of guns) I can't say it would be that simple in the US
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layla_wilson They could get ahold of guns if they really wanted to, but the latest Jihadist "intifada style" calls for... stabbings and rammings.
Why? Because it's cheap, easy, no skill required at all, and almost impossible to detect in advance...

In Australia they (iirc by accident) caught a bunch of would-be Jihadists bringing in a dozen or more full-auto rifles. Actual assault rifles. They planned a big shoot-up. The people of Australia got lucky... and that is good!
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Male 87
daegog or a 'gun free zone'
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Male 9,766
grryan I wonder what kind of physiological psychosis could cause someone to think more guns is the solution to the problem.
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Male 7,936
holygod Whatever psychosis makes them read Breitbart and believe that's "fact"
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Male 9,766
daegog Yes. However with that there is some comfort knowing the FBI, CIA, NSA, etc is searching, tracing, identifying those people to prevent attacks. How the fuck do you stop this?
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Male 756
Whats up with all this new "White Privilege" and general 'privilege' bullshit I keep hearing?

Just sounds like the new buzzword of the month - meh.

Oh and as I looked through the photos of all the American Mass murderers (because Martin Bryant wasn't in there, but he fits the bill - killed 35) one thing was blatantly clear from the pics. They were all obviously teased at school for being weirdo freaks.


Just like 5cats. - I cannot wait for that switch to flip! Then we can all say we knew him, point, and laugh.
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stifler coming from the person who has shown joy at the thought of killing someone, and joking about killing me from a 32nd floor window?

If there is anyone I have encountered on this site with the mental capability to be a weirdo freak mass murderer, it's you....
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Male 756
layla_wilson Coming from a white trash, trailer park chick such as yourself? We all know you are already dead inside.
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Male 1,316
stifler you have a way with the ladies, you silver tongued devil. 
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stifler we don't have white trash trailer park people in the UK, we have pikeys, which to be fair is close enough...  The only thing dead in me is probably my kidneys but apart from that you've made an incorrect presumption

But saying I'm dead inside ontop  of telling me previously that you wanted to fuck me to death I have to ask: are you a necrophiliac Mr.stiffy?
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stifler First of all, 5cats may be crazy and he may be angry, but he's never shown himself to be violent in any way.

Second of all if he, or anyone else, went bonkers and massacred a bunch of people we'd never know. We don't know anyone's name. He'd just never come back to the site and we'd be left to wonder what happened, sorta like crakr.
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Male 340
holygod Where's Crakr?
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Male 40,764
Roland CrakrJak got sick of the constant, personal attacks by people like this commenter (who attacked him for being disabled, as he has attacked me too for being disabled) and gave up on hoping they'd ever stop.

He's been gone for years now, unless he poked his nose in when IAB 2.0 rolled out?
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Male 9,766
5cats I didn't attack him for being disabled. I attacked him for being a hypocrite railing against social programs while living off the government teat, same as you. In case you didn't notice I was defending you here.


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holygod I did notice so I didn't use the name I normally choose for you, did you notice that? I'm pleased it has ended.

I see little difference between attacking someone because he's 'a nigger' and attacking him because his skin is black (or brown even). Same thing in my mind.
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5cats Well ya. Those are absolutely the same thing. I don't see how that is analogous to our situation.

If you want one that is in my mind it would be attacking someone for being black vs. attacking someone who got accepted to school because of affirmative action and then bitches about affirmative action.
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holygod One uses an 'offensive' (non-pc) word and the  other uses a 'clean' (socially acceptable) word. 
Exactly like your claim of not 'saying the word disabled' (being pc)means you 'didn't attack' us for BEING disabled. If we weren't disabled? What would you have to attack us over? 
That's the whole point: it is identical.

Like Michelle Obama did in her thesis paper? O_o
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Male 4,945
5cats Are you assuming that or did you and he communicate privately by email? I know he had health issues.
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squrlz4ever He did send an e-mail shortly after he quit here. It wasn't last year, it was a few years back. Like I said he did (I think) pop in for a little while when the big changes happened. Otherwise I don't have any communications with him :/
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5cats Thanks.
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Male 9,766
Roland No idea. He disappeared after the election.
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Female 4,429
"Stephen Paddock’s whiteness has already afforded him many outrageous protections in the media." IMHO, they're trying to figure out a way to release that it was an ANTIFA move, which they do NOT want to do.  my guess only.
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Female 8,056
melcervini Probably got sick of the noise.....
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Female 4,429
madduck i shouldn't laugh but LOL
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Male 3,480
melcervini You mean antifa is actually filled with raging old white millionaires!

Who would have thought.

On a totally unrelated note, did you see his house?  Dude had a really nice place.
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Male 9,766
melcervini The ONLY people talking about antifa and this guy is infowars and crackpot youtube channels. So that makes it pretty clear where you get your information.
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melcervini Why? Why is that your opinion? He was old, white, and wealthy, living in a retirement community. Nobody in his life has mentioned anything about him having strong political beliefs or being involved in any activism whatsoever.

Old, rich, white man that owned 2 dozen guns and liked to hunt. That is the ideal republican candidate. Why are you putting him in the far left?
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holygod because no one is saying anything about this guy.  If he had confederate flags, a MAGA hat, or concrete ISIS ties, it'd be all over the news.  Its taken the MSM a LONG time to finally admit those antifa idiots are not 'peaceful protesters" and have been pushing for this kind of thing.  I wasn't aware ANYONE was talking about ANTIFA yet, thus my guess.
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melcervini Don't worry. It has only been a couple days. We will know everything about this guy soon. We'll know his preschool teacher's name and wether he liked to be spanked during sex.

There are more reporters looking into this guy right now then there are looking into Trump's Russian ties.
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If he had a confederate flag it wouldn't change anything or represent all people with confederate flags.

If he had a MAGA hat it wouldn't change anything or represent all people with MAGA hats.

If he considers himself antifa it wouldn't change anything or represent all people who consider themselves antifa.

You know "antifa" is in no way an organized group with membership or anything right? "Antifa" is just teh general term that breitbart uses to describe any left wing protestor. 
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holygod ANTIFA looks pretty organized to me.  They show up en masse, they're all over social media, all carrying the same banners, signs, are masked and violent.  A far cry from legit protesters.  But yes, its early in the game still.
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melcervini That's like saying anonymous is organized because they all wear the same masks. People show up en masse to protest nazis and KKK members. You don't need to be very organized to accomplish that. I'd go protest them too. That doesn't make me "antifa".
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