Dave Rubin, Gay American Political Commentator, Explains "Why I Left The Left"

Submitted by: thunderbear 3 months ago in News & Politics


Dave Rubin once believed he was a member of The Left, until he repeatedly observed what The Left stood for. Now Ruben (you might know him from "The Young Turks") explains why some of those people who used to identify as progressive Democrats are now disillusioned and turning their back on this movement/political ideology.
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Male 3,766
This is why I identify as Independent...so I don't have to say dumb shit like this in public.
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Male 603
5 seconds in, it's bullshit.
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Male 10,328
What a bunch of bullshit. No wonder 5cats likes it. I consider myself a progressive and will vehemently defend free speech in all it's forms without equivocation. I have never once used or wanted a trigger warning. He takes a few wet noodles on college campuses that act like a bunch of entitled sniveling bitches and then uses them as the barometer of what all progressives are.
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Male 41,555
Excellent. Every point he makes is valid, every opinion he expresses is well reasoned.
Nice! No wonder IAB's liberals hate this so much :-D
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Male 21,084
5cats I'd like to see the reverse version of this though. A Republican who has left the party because they don't want anything to do with the alt-right. 
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Male 10,328
fancylad Yep ALL CONSERVATIVES are racists and bigots and homophobic and hate muslims and mexicans. I mean ALL OF THEM, EVERY SINGLE ONE, right? That's how this works?
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Male 4,146
holygod hey fucker, what about the blacks?

Man we get no billing anywhere.

Should probably toss the jews in for extra precision.
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Male 10,328
daegog Well, in fairness the jews do control the banks and the media and use their influence to oppress Christian values.
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Male 4,146
holygod point taken.
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540
sigh, PragerU. strap yourself in for some propaganda.
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Male 10,328
barry9a *Pragerganda (© 2017, HolyGod, All Rights Reserved)
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Male 602
It's really time to stop pigeon holing ourselves into left/right, it's a tired old meme that really doesn't get anything done.
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Male 69

I agree. I drift from conservative to liberal depending on the issue. I'm for small government but also universal health care for example. I think the real divide is: People who want to be left alone vs.people who refuse to leave you alone. 

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Male 69
notoriousbac Ack! Sorry its so big (giggity)! Not sure how that happened.
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Male 3,766
mrteatime It gets one thing done, divides the masses evenly so they aren't paying attention to the real problems or the fact that they are being controlled in the first place...
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Male 357
mrteatime It gets a lot done. It keeps people engaged, angry, and distracted so the few that are paying attention can get on with making the country work for themselves.
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Male 3,766
taxidriver here here!
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Male 410
mrteatime Amen brother
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Male 4,146
He says he became a member of the libertarian party...  Welcome to Irrelevancy Land!
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Male 3,766
daegog unfortunately I live right next door in Independent Quadrant.
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Male 1,840
So I understand disagreeing with the Democratic party. Many Dems leave and join its many splinter groups, as Fancy mentioned below.

What I don't understand is how he thinks that the Republican party is actually better. If he actually did an objective comparison video, maybe then I'd watch it. 
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Male 41,555
bliznik He didn't say Republicans are better, you just made that up.

He said that defending liberal values has somehow become conservative. I don't think he used the word Republican even once...
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Male 1,840
5cats Ahh, my mistake. I associated Dave Ruben with Republicans since almost all of the guests on his show are Republican, and he pretty much bashes Democrats. I just read up on him, and see that he's actually identified himself as a "classical liberal."
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Male 41,555
bliznik A common misconception it seems :p Based on some of the comments here...
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Male 5,307
Hurray, another video teaching people how to group all of the "opposition" together into the same generic descriptions so you can hate them even more. If you think that is patriotic or American you are living in a partisan bubble.
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Male 41,555
markust123 You literally showed ALL the points he makes here are true in your one shitty comment. Congrats!
You accused him of things he never once said (in FACT he says the opposite) and then blame him for it: what a ignorant true fuck progressive you are!
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Male 5,307
5cats Oh, no. I'm so sorry it's the Moops. The correct answer is the Moops.
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Male 21,084
This guy is right and wrong. Right because a segment of Democrats have flown off the handle with how the approach issues that they dislike. 

He's wrong because he's using the umbrella term for an entire party which itself has split. The spectrum of democrats is so varied, the word is useless in 2017.

We need new terms to define each party's factions.
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Male 3,766
fancylad Like the Tea Party fracture from the Republican side, I guarantee we will see something new from the Dems in 2020 that goes against the norm.

And Bernie's ousting by his own party in lieu of Hillary will have been the catalyst for this.
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Male 164
fancylad I totally agree.  And yet I think he's drawing attention to some factors that have caused they split.  

It's the points I choose to focus on.  I don't really care about republican or democrat.  I would instead like people to focus on how screwed our values are becoming as a nation.  I'd love to see both parties demolished.  As I believe Neitchze said (I never read any of his work I just heard this in conversation) every institution, no matter what it's original mission, eventually become primarily concerned with self preservation.  That's how I see both parties no.  They only serve to keep the status quo.
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540
thunderbear Don't you find it funny how guys like this say things like " businesses should be able to serve who they want and refuse service to anyone", but then turn around and say "universities, which are businesses, shouldn't be able to refuse service to anyone"?

Don't you also find it funny that people like this talk about someone giving a speech at a university like it's a fundamental human right, that it's the end of democracy if a speaker is denied talking at university... yet they never talk about things like the US states which legally block atheists from office? Which has more impact on the wider community, a speech at a university, or a governor's term? There ain't a lot of libertarians or republicans who point at that little nugget when they're waxing lyrical.

Fuck this guy, he's arguing superficial crap to garner eyeballs.
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Male 3,766
barry9a Well said.
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Male 164
barry9a It's an interesting point about universities.  The thing is I believe universities should be the one place to encourage healthy debate based around differing opinions.  It's the last place I would expect censorship to occur.  

As for your other point, I can't speak for them.  I don't identify as a republican or a libertarian.  I thought I made that clear in my above statement.  I posted this because he calls attention to some really awful trends in behavior that I personally have seen expressed by all kinds of people, some of which identify as progressive, or hippies, or anarchists, or whatever.  IMO the labels aren't important and I agree that trying to cast a blanket over an entire group isn't productive.  Just because I posted a video doesn't necessarily mean I agree with everything said in it.  I like to see what people will say in reaction to things like this, and it gives me a chance to refine my views on those topics by hearing opposing opinions.  I see a lot of value in that.  It was the thing I enjoyed most about college as well.  
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Male 422
thunderbear  Neitchze?  You have conversations about Neitchze?  The guy with the tiny head and huge mustache from the death mask post a couple of days ago?  I'm impressed... you are WAY more intellectual than I am.  Best I can come up with when it comes to quoting famous people is, "it's a-me, Mario!"  Sadly, the proper time to use this in deep conversations is rare... or maybe that's not such a bad thing after all. 
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Male 164
skeeter01  Ok.  You're upset because I mentioned a philosopher.   I can't help you with that
but good luck.
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Male 422
thunderbear not upset at all... was just commenting how u are far more intelligent than I, and I threw in a little self-deprecating humor to boot.  Not sure how you got I was upset by what I posted, but OK.  Good luck to you too.
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