US Government Wiretapped Former Trump Campaign Chairman

Submitted by: 5cats 1 month ago in News & Politics


According to a report by CNN, it turns out that member(s) of Trump's campaign WERE being wiretapped by the FBI. And that particular fellow had a residence in Trump Towers.

Once again: Trump told the truth and everyone attacked him for it. 

Once again: The MSM was dead wrong, the FBI lied to you and everyone just blindly believed.

Remember, this is a CNN article.
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Male 341
Let's look at Trump tweet: 
Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!
3:35 AM - 4 Mar 2017
Feel free to use your colorful imagination to show that Obama wire tapped Trump. 
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Male 40,772
boredhuman The Obama administration = Obama. It's a tweet with limited characters, not a PHD paper with extensive footnotes and a bibliography...

The Buck Stops Here: except for Obama it seems. (says you)
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Male 341
"The Obama administration = Obama." Go on... You need better imagination: FBI = The Obama administration = Obama, eh?

"It's a tweet with limited characters, not a PHD paper with extensive footnotes and a bibliography..."
Do you mean to say Trump meant "Obama administration" in his tweet? Let's see if another tweet might clarify:
"How low has President Obama gone to tapp my phones during the very sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy! 4:02 AM - 4 Mar 2017"

Looks like he was accusing Obama personally... But go on, let your imagination run wild!!!
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Male 40,772
boredhuman So you believe that various agencies do things WITHOUT the express knowledge or consent of the US President... that the President isn't told what is going on during his daily briefings? That the people he appointed to run those departments are NOT his responsibility???
Do go on! 
And no, in that CONTEXT 'Obama' means Obama OR his underlings. Obviously Obama didn't PERSONALLY apply for a wiretap warrant, don't be obtuse...
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Male 341
5cats And I love how you skillfully shift the conversation!

"So you believe that various agencies do things WITHOUT the express knowledge or consent of the US President..."
Relationship between FBI and POTUS becomes relationship between POTUS and "various agencies."
Obama tapping Trump's phones becomes "express knowledge" of tapping Trump's phones.

"That the people he appointed to run those departments are NOT his responsibility???"
Shifting the responsibility of the appointee to the appointer. 

I'm not going to argue here. Just wanted to let you know that I admire your shifty rhetoric. 
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Male 40,772
boredhuman MY arguemnent has been the same since the start: didn't you read what I said? "The Buck Stops Here" was the motto of a US President and it should apply to all of them.
So if Obama appoints someone, and that person does bad things, and Obama has to have been told about them but does nothing, it ISN'T Obama's fault!

I presume you think Nixon was completely innocent too then... (he was innocent of Watergate specifically, but many other illegal and immoral things were indeed by his orders).
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Male 341
5cats I don't mind Obama accepting some blame/praise for the wiretapping of a potential traitor. You haven't even shown why it was wrong to investigate a potential traitor - you apparently just assumed it's wrong.

Are you going to argue that Paul Manafort has been framed by the FBI all along? All the charges against him were fabricated just to be able to listen in on Trump in the future?!

♪♫ Come with me and you'll be in a world of pure imagination ♪♫
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Male 40,772
boredhuman Potential WHAT? Traitor? He's ALREADY BEEN investigated and they found NOTHING. He was innocent and they knew that for a FACT.
The ONLY thing that changed? He joined the Trump Campaign. AND THEN they tapped him again and found NOTHING again.

Are you reading impaired? Framed? He was 100% innocent by their (FBI) own words! He was never charged, how can he be 'framed'? He was TARGETED by them by orders from high in the chain of command. Otherwise WHY would they re-open a tap against a citizen already cleared of wrongdoing? You think low-level flunkies did this? Even if they did? WHERE DOES THE BUCK STOP? A point you ignore to your own shame.

And many other members were tapped too, so the NYT and other MSM outlets have said. 
So which is it? No one was illegally tapped and the NYT and the FBI are liars? Or Trump told the truth.
Pick one, it's pretty obvious: you aren't even trying to deny that the Trump Campaign WAS wiretapped. Which is good because that's undeniable at this time, yes?
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Male 341
5cats The reason I can't say anything more informative is because WE DON'T KNOW - the information is classified.
Do you know what evidence prompted the investigation in 2014? - NO, all you have is your imagination.
Do you know for a fact the president even knew about the wiretaps at Trump Tower, let alone that Manafort was under investigation? - NO just more imagination with speculation.
And then you have even more outlandish, baseless speculation about corruption in high places of Obama's administration.

I like your post for pointing out that Trump had [very] good reason to blame Obama for wiretapping his campaign. Trump couldn't have known who was wiretapping his building and for what purpose at the time.

For now, I'll patiently wait for the Mueller investigation to release more information to the public. 
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Male 40,772
boredhuman Actually it is crystal clear why the 2014 'investigation' began: Manafort had legally met with a Russian, who was under surveillance, for business. Normally his name would be redacted because US Citizens are were protected, but Obama changed that by PO.
So yes, we DO know! At least I do, and anyone else who'd read even the MSM's coverage of it. It was right there from the start.

Trump was saying what he believed, and LO! it has been proven to be true! All your squirming cannot change the facts: Trump said he was wiretapped, the FBI (now) says it is true. ALL the MSM reports were wrong, and Trump was right.

Two investigations have shown nothing at all, and there's been nearly a year now to find ONE SINGLE SHRED of evidence, yet none have been found! It's a witch-hunt, a fishing expedition, a great big nothingburger that even CNN has stopped believing in.
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Male 341
"He was TARGETED by them by orders from high in the chain of command" - ♪♫ pure imagination ♪♫
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Male 40,772
boredhuman ♪♫ trolling trolling trolling, though the post is swollen, keep those doggies trolling, liberals! ♪♫
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Male 341
5cats There you go! Now you're using your imagination! "President Obama" means "Obama OR his underlings." And the FBI is apparently one of Obama's underlings.
Don't let the fact that the FBI reports to the Attorney General stop your fantasies!
"Obviously Obama didn't PERSONALLY apply for a wiretap warrant"
But with the power of imagination, you could say he ordered his FBI underlings to apply for wiretap, right?  
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Male 40,772
boredhuman The AG reports to Obama though, yes? So... so what? You then are agreeing with me, thx!

Obama directly ordered lots of criminal actions, like stonewalling the Tea Party for example. He may not specifically have ordered the FBI to illegally surveil the Trump campaign, BUT he personally created the situation where it was possible by his various POs. It isn't difficult to imagine it at all: he did it elsewhere, why should this be any different.

Last time I checked? The PotUS cannot ask for a wiretap, so DUH he'd tell underlings (like Comey, or Lynch) to get on the case and do it for the DNC's benefit. 
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Male 40,772
boredhuman Only if you ignore the entire point of what I said: where does the 'buck stop'? 
It's a simple question dude.
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Male 341
5cats What purely imagined blame are we talking about, again? No matter. 
Let's continue the chain of blame! FBI -> Attorney General -> Obama... And the US people elected Obama, and God created the people. I guess the buck stops with whatever created God! 
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Male 40,772
boredhuman Well I thought you were trying to have a serious discussion, but you're just trolling,. my mistake for thinking positively about you when you clearly don't deserve such consideration.
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Male 7,943
5cats No it doesn't.  As you are witnessing here.  The Intelligence agency act independently of any ONE administration.
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Male 40,772
normalfreak2 Riiiight. Just applies to one political party though, eh? If a low-level flunky who never even spoke to Trump in person says or does something wrong (but not even illegal!) then Trump should be impeached!!

Susan Rice lies to the American public the day after meeting with Obama? Not Obama's fault at all! Even though HE was also spreading the same lies up until then. Sheer coincidence.
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Male 40,772
And the IAB Liberals are silent! LOLZ! At least the trolls are also silent too. Maybe this is one of the posts that accidentally started half-way down the page?

There is a long list of laws Obama and his henchmen violated that, had a Repub done it (like... Nixon~!) it would have been front-page scandal for months.

But even when the facts are incontrovertible? The MSM protects its own: namely the DNC.

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Male 7,943
5cats Those are COMPLETELY two different things.  Paul Mannafort is not TRUMP being wiretapped.  Mannafort is is own person.  Trump said "My wires were tapped" when in reality it was PAUL MANNAFORT's that  was tapped.  Big difference.  But not big enough for the right wing nonsense sphere to go LOOK LOOK MSM LIED AGAIN! SWAMP ETC. 
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Male 40,772
normalfreak2 He was at the top of the Trump campaign, he spoke to Donald almost daily during that time. Thus Trump was wiretapped. Trump Towers also.

WHY else would they open a second surveillance against him (the first was dropped because there was nothing at all there) if not to also tap Trump? They knew for a fact they'd NEVER get a warrant for Donald, but they got them (plural it will soon turn out) for his campaign staff: same thing.
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Male 7,943
5cats WHY else would they open a second surveillance against him (the first was dropped because there was nothing at all there) if not to also tap Trump?
You are great at jumping to conclusions.  How did you hear about what Mueller is investigating?  LEAKERS, I hope Trump goes after those illegal leaks;)
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Male 40,772
normalfreak2 Right, but before the leaks? He was investigated because he talked to a Russian who was under investigation and his name was 'unmasked'  even though it should have been protected. Once he started working for Trump? A second investigation was launched. Sheer coincidence eh? 
Both investigations found absolutely nothing at all, yet the 'Russian Connection' sham continues...

I hope they find the 'leakers' also, it might have been Comey himself who did it :/.
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Male 40,772
5cats 
He'll apologise any minute now...
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