Leftists Protesters Cover Statue Of Jefferson At UVA, Label Him "A Racist And A Rapist"

Submitted by: 5cats 2 months ago in News & Politics

When President Trump said the Antifas and SJWs would be after the Founding Fathers next? He was roundly attacked and criticized by the liberal-left. Oh no! That's not going to happen they assured us.

Well? Now, according to The Washington Post, they are going after... the Founding Fathers. In fact any white person in US history who ever owned a slave, or was a white male, it seems. Both are equal crimes in their minds.

Yes, lots of Americans owned slaves back when it was legally and morally acceptable. Does this mean all their contributions to America should be scrubbed from the history books? Make them 'unpersons' and remove all traces of them so future generations will not have to learn the truth? Only the 'safe' history of SJW revisionism will remain.

First they came for General Lee... now it's Jefferson, Stockton, Columbus and more. Where will it stop?

That's a serious question: where will they finally decided they've done their job and stop tearing statues down? When will the public decide they've gone too far? Because by then it will likely be too late.
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Male 118
We tend to view history thru rose colored glasses. Columbus was a murdering, rapist, opportunistic vulture. Not a whole lot of good there if you actually investigate what happened. 

 Washington,  Jefferson yep owned slaves, yep slept with them, most likely by force, but they also did great things for this country.   Does one negate the other, no admire the deeds, acknowledge the flawed man behind them and yes in the context of the time and place.  The south and north were almost separate countries at that time, in outlook and culture they basically were so to judge them by the standards of the North isn't really even fair.  They were doing what they knew,  something that is today universally known and accepted to be wrong, ignorant and backwards, but it was the only life they knew.  Doesn't make it right or better, just means it has to be factored in. 

Still doesn't make it ok or right it just means to portray them as some evil person from django unchanged isn't really fair or in context either. 
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Male 325
I think it's OK to take down statues of traitors. I suggest we replace them with statues of heroes.
I suggest Desmond Doss.
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Male 41,556
wellsy57 Jefferson was a traitor? You mean to the British or something?
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Male 40,535
Remember, It's only racist when white men do it.


Black man plays George Washington on Broadway and no one cares



White guy plays Michael Jackson {who had light/white skin} and All Racist Hell Breaks Loose


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Male 4,165
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Male 40,535
daegog That movie is from another time with different standards. As was Jefferson himself. 
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Male 4,165
Gerry1of1 Your go to line.  The past makes everything acceptable to you for some reason.
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Male 40,535
daegog No, not acceptable. But you can't view the past in today's light. Not if you want to understand it. If you prefer ignorance then jump and shout with the haters, easier than thinking for yourself.
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Male 4,165
Gerry1of1 You absolutely can and should view the past in today's light.

You can see how ass backwards shit was, but there is no need to pretend that it was not ass backwards.
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Male 40,535
daegog Then conversely, you should view today by yesterdays standards. Which means women are appearing in public in a state of undress and should be jailed.

I'm not saying the sins of the past are okay to do today, just that 200 years ago is a different culture. You don't apply our cultural standards to aboriginal tribes in the Amazon because it's a different culture.   The West does not eat dogs - it's "wrong" - but in the East they do. 

Who's standard is right? Answer: they all are...for them
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Male 4,165
Gerry1of1 No, they should not have been jailed.

You are mistaking was was LEGAL for being right.  People used to pass laws for the same reasons they pass them to day.  Money and personal interest.  Justice has practically nothing to do with it.

Eating dogs, imo, is not wrong, its just gross.  Why cant a person buy and eat a dog when the same person can buy and eat a pig?

I can look at some cultural differences (eating dogs vs not eating dogs) and shrug them off.  I can look at other cultural differences (female circumcision practiced in many parts of Africa) and easily point to shit being evil.
 
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Male 40,535
daegog And do you have the right to impose your will on the things you judge evil?  That's what these "protestors" are doing. Forcing their view on other people. Forcing society to do it there way and no other.  
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Male 4,165
Gerry1of1 I'm not forcing my view on anyone.  I can, however, see when a thing is wrong.  Is is really so hard for you to see rape as wrong?  People will continue to do as they have always done no matter my or your view on the situation.  We can only affect our own environments.

I did not say what those folks are doing is right or wrong because i do not know the particulars of the event. I would dispute the notion they are forcing their views on anyone.  Have their actions changed your views?  


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Male 40,535
daegog I've never said rape was not wrong. But the Romans & Vikings liked it and I'm not one to judge.
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Male 3,775
sir john a macdonald, the first prime minister of canada, was one of the founding fathers of the residential school system. so the elementary teachers federation of ontario (etfo) is requesting that the name sir john a macdonald be removed from schools. which personally, as a canadian who knows his cultural history, i have absolutely no problem with that. we cant erase history, which means we shouldnt forget the atrocities committed by those we honour with statues and memorials. im sure balto even bit a kid once in his life, he was part wolf after all.
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Male 41,556
robthelurker Yup! Like I often say: when Americans do something, for good or bad, Canada will almost certainly follow along.

Tossing our history into the trash because the SJWs tell us to is nothing less than 1984 come to life.
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Male 40,535

Haters Gonna Hate


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Male 40,535
Sure, let's hate on one of the men who gave them the right to protest.
I don't think they even believe their bull shit, they just want to protest something.... ANYTHING
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Male 1,841
Things keep happening that are a little too convenient for Trump.

Trump says, "You look at what happened last night in Sweden" when nothing happened...then 2 days later riots happen.

Trump says, "I noticed that Stonewall Jackson is coming down. I wonder, is it George Washington next week? And is it Thomas Jefferson the week after?"...a month later a bunch of protesters attack a Thomas Jefferson memorial.

Maybe Trump is just absurdly good at predicting future riots and violence from unorganized and unaffiliated 3rd parties. It's odd...
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Male 569
bliznik A budding new conspiracy theory on IAB! SQUEEEEEEE!!!
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Male 402
bliznik "Trump says, "You look at what happened last night in Sweden" when nothing happened"  I'm not sure what your news sources are but I was hearing about the crap in Sweden for at least a month before he said anything.
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Male 1,841
dkm458 Nothing happened the night before he said that.
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Male 41,556
bliznik Maybe things did happen last night when he wrote it? :-)

And big things DID happen in Sweden shortly before, just not riots in particular, just not 1-2 nights before it was 3 iirc, a trivial detail. It has been ongoing for many years now.

"What difference does it make? Now?" Compare and contrast that one :-p

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Male 4,165
Slavery was never morally accepted.  They were just evil greedy men.  They almost could not get the declaration of independence agreed to because the South refused to give up slavery, obviously the North relented.

If you hang out with rapists and murderers, in that circle, rape and murder is going to be socially accepted.

If you hung out with slavers and old pre civil war plantation owners., slavery would be accepted.

Thomas Jefferson, George Washington and every other slaver was a rapist.  It was just like walking the dog, just a thing they did.

If you heros are slaving rapists, that is YOUR issue.  Do not expect everyone else to look kindly upon them.

Hell George Washington wasn't even the first president, and couldn't manage to win a single battle.  Not sure why people seem to love that guy so much.

All that said, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, et al. Are a large part of why this country was founded, so taking down their statues seems to be a waste of energy.

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Male 1,975
daegog "George Washington wasn't even the first president..."

Do tell.
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Male 2,716
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Male 10,333
"In fact any white person in US history who ever owned a slave, or was a white male, it seems. Both are equal crimes in their minds."

That's total bullshit. How or where does that statement get backed up?

This is kind of a hard question. Were some of the founding fathers assholes? Ya probably. Racists? Yep. However, can we really remove them? Does the good they did outweigh the bad?

I honestly don't get the taking statues down thing. It doesn't change anything.
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Male 1,277
holygod It's fairly well documented that while Lincoln did believe owning slaves was morally wrong, he was not really an abolitionist and was not very fond of black people in general.  He didn't think they should be slaves, as he considered slavery in any form morally wrong, but he was still a racist.  He also wasn't even really for total abolition IIRC.  He wanted to let the south keep the slaves they had, but not to let slavery spread or let people get new slaves.  He was OK with them keeping the ones they already had though.  Perhaps we need to start taking down any statues of him as well.  Hell, let's just take down all statues everywhere and make them illegal.  Why the hell not, right?
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Male 402
holygod White Priviledge, yo?
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Male 8,183
Just to clarify it appears the "leftist protesters" were students.  
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Male 1,089
normalfreak2 Yes. Educated = leftist
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Male 41,556
normalfreak2 That's redundant...
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Male 402
5cats indeed!!
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