The Science Of Internet Trolls

Submitted by: thunderbear 2 months ago in Lifestyle Tech


A very short and to-the-point analysis of what scientists have identified as characteristics of your common internet troll and how to deal with them.  Relevant information contained inside.  
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Male 2,675
'Ignore the troll'

Some good advice, I wish I didn't need.
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Male 15,339
Let's have a downvote competition!
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Male 41,175
Draculya That would downvote this post too though :/
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Male 1,049
Also, a lot of this would be solved if we could block users. They'd never know we don't see them so making multiple profiles wouldn't work as well. 
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Male 1,891
Guilty here; at least some times.

Most of the time I try to serve as a catalyst to get people thinking.  A lot of those efforts result in troll responses so, in my boredom, I play along.  Yes, I actually enjoy it but not because I like causing or observing harm.  I do it simply for the interaction and to resolve my curiosity of where the idiot will go with it.

Most I-A-B users have trolled at some point, yet we keep coming back to endure and distribute the pain.  

I think we're all effed up here on I-A-B.

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Male 756
1. A++ Troll : 5Cunts
2. Troll : Fancylad (Your run the site - ergo troll!)
3. Preacher  : monkwarrior
4. Rib poker : squrlz4ever 
5. Shit Stirrer : Gerry1of1
6. A+++ Shit Stirring Cunt: Stifler

:)
How to handle:

1. Ignore - he will just drag you down to his idiot level and beat you with experience.
2. Feed him with more ammo - let others rip into him!
3. Tell him your an agnostic, dyslexic with insomnia! :D
4. Poke back and have fun :-)
5. Poke harder and realise it is still all just fun.
6. Wants nothing and is coated in teflon - do as you please.
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Male 6,198
Come on, the Human Monk is not nearly as bad as some on here
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Male 1,793
There needs to be a video that describes internet trolls vs. people who obsessively need to be right all of the time, so much so that they have stopped listening/reading/analyzing the opinions of anyone who is different than they are.

I think the Internet has far more of the latter than the former, and I'd love to watch a video on that phenomenon.
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Male 1,049
bliznik They come off or end up being the same in my opinion.
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Male 5,210
bliznik I'm man enough to admit I have been guilty of this on multiple occasions. I'm a stubborn Taurus.
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Male 6,198
markust123 " I'm a stubborn Taurus."
Bull

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Male 6,232
bliznik Yes, i've noticed this here on I-A-B too, yet the response to this post i've made (below), can be adapted for such a purpose, as it is quite similar to the nature of trolls. 

For example, the positive person needs to focus on deciphering what is required to educate, and then educate with facts and evidences required of the one who is in the negative.  Where many people fail at this point is when they stop doing so in a positive manner, becoming impatient, or angry, or judgemental of the one they're trying to teach, and begin to do so with a negative manner.  That is where their education enters the realm of negative obsession of 'being right', and they'll have a difficult time teaching.

Positive people who are wrong want to know when they are wrong, as they want to learn how they are wrong and correct themselves.  Negative people who are wrong don't want to know when they are wrong, and want to ignore how they are wrong, refusing correction.
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior You really need to take your own advice.
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Male 6,232
whosaidwhat I do, but you need to as well, especially when you're acting so negative that your 9/11 story has been exposed (what the media preached to you as fact about 9/11), but yet you still want to hold to the lies the media preached to you, and not accept you (or your preacher) may be wrong.  Even though it has been proven wrong, you would prefer to throw a tantrum like an angry teenager who doesn't like that they are wrong, and who doesn't want to be wrong (even though you are).
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior When I am proven wrong, I'll accept it. You certainly haven't done so.
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Male 6,232
whosaidwhat problem is you have your head in the sand and want to ignore evidence of explosives to protect your fragile world-view.  Your choice.  Ridiculously unwise, but your choice and freedom to do so.
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior What evidence? Provide some REAL evidence, instead of something one of your idiot brethren imagined.
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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Male 6,232
whosaidwhat so let me guess, you ignored the video that explained your cognitive dissonance?  Figures.
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior Yes, I ignored the video that explains your cognitive dissonance. Learn English.
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Male 6,232
whosaidwhat  so you fear to face the fragility of your world view, no need to take your problems out on others. 
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior So you fear to learn to actually comprehend the English language? You very obviously have little to no grasp of it.
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Male 6,232
whosaidwhat So you fear words too?  You didn't have to tell me that, you expose it plainly.
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior How so, when you are the one unable to comprehend and reply to a very simple question? I've answered yours. Why can't you answer mine? Wait, I know!  Because I don't believe your stupidity, due to a little common sense on my part. How does that make me fearful? 
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Male 6,232
whosaidwhat You've proven yourself a troll.  A troll who just wants to ignore facts, and believe the fuzzy lie told to them.  Your questions are inspired by that delusion, and your attitude is to troll, so why would i waste time giving a troll what they want?  It's far more enjoyable to keep pushing their face in the dirt until the 1> give up and throw the towel in, or 2> are exposed widely as a troll, or even  3> finally give up and admit they're wrong.  

My estimation is that you are going to continue with 2> and then eventually get to 1>.  I've dealt with trolling mindsets like yours for a long time, and it's like clockwork.
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior What does this have to do with answering my questions, unless you are unable to? You keep quoting "facts", which I keep proving false, yet, I'm the one who believes the "fuzzy lie"?
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Male 6,232
whosaidwhat It has plenty to do with answering your questions.  Because once you have placed yourself in to the realm of trolls, especially ignorant ones, no one can believe your sincerity nor care to take much time to answer your questions.  Also, you haven't proven anything about the explosive evidence false, and you won't since you're emotionally trolling.
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior I haven't proven it false? Yet, you chose to ignore that fact that you haven't proven it TRUE, either! No, unlike you, I freely admit that there is no evidence that there weren't. You are the one unable to admit that there is no evidence that there were explosives used, all the while shouting from the rooftops that "THERE WERE DEFINITELY EXPLOSIVES USED"!!! You seem to miss the very basic tenet of "PROOF, OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN". Does a person have to prove their innocence in a court of law? No, they only have to prove a lack of evidence of guilt. The two are NOT the same, and are NOT mutually exclusive. There is no "evidence of guilt" about explosives. Claim that there "may have been" explosives all you want, but stop with your ignorant ASSERTIONS that there DEFINITELY WERE until ACTUAL evidenced surfaces.
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Male 6,232
whosaidwhat keep talking to deny the facts all you like.  Apparently facts to you are what the tv tells you, or what popular opinion among your peers is. FYI: facts are found in labs, which is where the explosive evidence was found.  Denying that for your opinion, is quite completely your choice.
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Male 6,232
Good post, i've noticed some of these traits in a few I-A-B users. But the advice isn't perfect.

I'm actually well versed on this topic, as I've spent a few years studying trolls.  So, I'd also like to add that ignoring them isn't always the best option.  For those who are trained at recognizing trolls early, and who also have the strength and stamina to see it to the end (which is difficult for quite a few), you can actually turn the tables against them

The procedure for this is quite simple: if you know that a troll will come out with a negative force, you simply need to strengthen yourself with a greater positive force (there are many ways to do this which is a vast topic that i can't really go into depth on right now).  But the basic logic is this: after the commencement of the clash, the negative and positive will eventually cancel out each other out.  When that point has arrived, whomever has a remainder (be it positive or negative), will automatically have the upper hand, and the control of the situation.   

So, say a negative person comes in, at some hypothetical level -352, to troll, and is taken on by a positive person, at another hypothetical level of +493 (just go with it).  What will happen is that the negative person, should they continue, will eventually reach 0, a point where the positive person will be at +141 with the upper hand.  At this juncture the troll would be exposed, and then they have several options: to leave, to keep trying (exposing their failure even more), or more importantly, turn positive, learn something new, and increase in the positive (it's rare but happens when people turn a new leaf).

If it turns out both are the same level negative vs positive, which is rare, it can come to a stalemate, but can be broken by a positive or negative third party to help aid the other.  Anything can happen at that juncture.

It should be noted that if someone in the positive isn't at a high enough level to take on the negative, they could get overrun by the person in the negative.  They could get hurt, and the troll will be empowered, so it's not something everyone can do.  In fact, the failure of weaker positive people against stronger negative people is what has caused positive people to resort to the "just ignore them" stance.  The problem with that, though, is that the troll has the upper hand, and feels this is a success, meaning they have found a place where they can continue their trolls, and call it home.  This has destroyed many an online community (yahoo answers springs to mind).  Finally there is also a real danger of a positive person turning a new leaf to enter into the negative, so i really have to stress it's not for everyone to attempt unless they are strong and well versed in the positive, with effective techniques to prevent that, or ways to recover.

I find by practicing being positive, and learning to live it in all aspects, it provides someone with the ability to become quite effective at dealing with trolls; almost bulletproof from their attacks (and able to take on many negative people at once, exhausting them all).  This is a personal opinion on the matter, but i feel it's easier to reach higher positive levels, and maintain it, than it is to reach lower negative ones and maintain them.  The bonus is that once the community sees they have been laid bare, they then have the tools to call the troll out, and disrupt their trolling, leading to the troll's own unhappiness (much to their displeasure), and eventual exit or reform.
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior This is RICH coming from the biggest troll on here.
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Male 6,232
whosaidwhat As could be gathered from what i said, most trolls would think i'm a troll, so it's no surprise you think that.
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior Exactly, WHAT YOU SAID. Why would I take the word of a troll on this subject?
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Male 6,232
whosaidwhat i would never expect you, a troll, to take anyone's word but your own on anything.  You've been exposed many times, and you hate it that you have never been able to stand above me.  re-read my post you replied to, and you'll figure out why.  Here's a hint: your level is too low, so when we meet in the middle, you have nothing.
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior When, EXACTLY, have I "been exposed"? Proof (which doesn't exist), or IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!!!
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! What an idiot... If you want to communicate with me, please, learn to comprehend English. You clearly don't.
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Male 6,232
whosaidwhat so let me guess, you ignored the video that explained your cognitive dissonance?  Figures.
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior Yes, I ignored the video that explains your cognitive dissonance. Learn English.
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Male 6,232
whosaidwhat so you fear to face the fragility of your world view, no need to take your problems out on others.
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior Yes, that does seem to be a constant fear of yours. Why else would you be so desperate to prove something without a single shred of valid evidence?
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Male 6,232
whosaidwhat keep ignoring the facts all you like.  Troll against them as hard as you might.  The facts aren't going anywhere.
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior Thats what I keep trying to tell you. I keep proving your "facts" false, while you are unable to do the same to me. Must be terribly frustrating for you.
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Male 6,232
whosaidwhat your 'facts' in the 'official report' of 9/11 have been exposed as fabrications.  You haven't proven any facts false about the explosive evidence found at the crime scene of 9/11, you've simply made up little stories to pad your fragile world-view so you can ignore them.  No scientific research, no investigations, just following along with what your TV tells you, because you fear going against its narrative.  Poor you, that's why you shouldn't troll, because you make things worse for yourself.
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior Ok, then tell me what explosives were used.
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Male 6,232
whosaidwhat Several times i have told you already that a re-investigation could determine what, precisely, explosives were used to bring them down.  The explosions were witnessed by many first responders, but ignored by the 'official report', and there's also evidence of them being scrubbed from media reports.  

Your continued ignorance of the many times i've answered your question, shows your trolling nature.  Great example for this topic.
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior But you continue to assert, as a FACT, that explosives were used. There is NO POSSIBLE WAY to KNOW that any were used, without tangible evidence. STOP ASSERTING AS FACT YOUR SUSPICIONS!
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Male 6,232
whosaidwhat Explosive evidence was found but the 'official report' ignored the evidence.  University professors tested the 'official report' and found that wtc7 did not fall due to fires, as the fable you hold to preaches to you.  the 'official report' is not fact, but fiction.  I understand why you are so upset over this, as your world view is based on a fiction that is laid bare with facts.  
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior So what explosives were used? If there is evidence, then there should be at least an idea of the class of explosive used.
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Male 6,232
whosaidwhat Proving you're a troll by willfully ignoring again, are you?  I'll re-post what you ignored:

For the explosive evidence: You have the "Explosive Evidence:Experts Speak Out" that explores it in depth, not to mention the "Oral histories of 9/11" that shows many first responders reported explosives, and there is also the explosive evidence examined in the series "50 questions they can't answer about 9/11" here on I-A-B ( part 1, part 2, and part 3 ). 

As for what explosives, that's what a re-investigation could find out.
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior Then stop asserting as FACT that explosives WERE used, until you can come up with some ACTUAL evidence.
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Male 6,232
whosaidwhat Oh, i'm not going to stop pointing to the fact that explosive evidence was found at the 9/11 crime scene, just because it dents your fragile world view, and you want to ignore it until the media tells you it's a fact. 

There is plenty of evidence, as mentioned, which i'll repeat again for the sake of your ignorance:  You have the "Explosive Evidence:Experts Speak Out" that explores it in depth, not to mention the "Oral histories of 9/11" that shows many first responders reported explosives, and there is also the explosive evidence examined in the series "50 questions they can't answer about 9/11" here on I-A-B ( part 1, part 2, and part 3 ). 
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior Yes, I realize now that you will continue to spout out flat out lies and fabrications that you have not a single shred of evidence for. That's just one of the reasons that I am done feeding the troll. Fuck off.
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Male 6,232
whosaidwhat I've never said the earth is flat.  You're simply showing how ignorant you are.  Now you're butt hurt over the facts, and choosing to judge like trollish bully who doesn't get their way.  You've dug your own hole, I'm glad you realize your ignorance gets you nowhere and choose to stop. Maybe when you get over your fragile world view you won't be so emotional, and may be actually civil, sensible, and in control again.
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior You have stated that the Earth is flat SEVERAL TIMES. Fuck off, you lying piece of shit.
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Male 6,232
whosaidwhat I'll admit a lot of upset and angry people want to think i've said that, like yourself, and a other similar people who want to state dishonest things about others.  But ultimately, if you were going to get all angry and emotional, you really do have to think your reply strategy out a bit
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior Do you think that if you keep repeating your lies enough, people will start to believe you? Just fuck off already. Troll.
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Male 6,232
whosaidwhat I sometimes wonder about you.  After all you said just a few comments ago "im done", but it looks like you really want to troll, as anyone following the flow of this conversation might expect.
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Male 5,214
monkwarrior And with this lengthy comment, IAB has officially jumped the shark.

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Male 705
squrlz4ever Told ya not to enjoy the sun too much your balls has become like


and it turned orange too. That's a baaaad sign.
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Male 5,214
fuad119 LOL! 
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Male 3,667
squrlz4ever You win the internet today Squrlz!

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Male 5,214
kalron27 Thank you, thank you. ~bows~
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Male 6,232
squrlz4ever pointing out my own findings has nothing to do with I-A-B, though i admit i did learn some things about my findings here.
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Male 756
squrlz4ever WOOOOO!!!!

Check out the puppies on that squirrel!!!

I would motorboat the hell out of em :D
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Male 5,210
monkwarrior Everyone, and I mean everyone, is shaking their head at this. You are by far the biggest troll on IAB. It's laughable how you pretend you are not. You have been temporarily banned twice for being a troll and one year ago Monday you were almost perma-banned for being a troll. Although, according to you no one can really ban you because you will just come back as someone else, which is creepy as fuck. You admitted that you enjoy making people upset. You act like you are this intelligent being that is above everyone else but in reality you come off looking like a stupid junior high girl with a new thesaurus. You are ridiculous and everyone needs to start calling you out on it like Runham does. And before you pull one of your troll tactics and tell me how angry I am, I am not, I'm just tired of your bullshit.
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Male 1,049
markust123 Not everyone. I won't read it because I've seen it enough to know it's not worth it. Treat it like a banner ad. Because it is.
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Male 6,232
markust123 I don't troll, but i admit that i can appear to be trolling some trolls, or people who have built their world-view around a lie, because i know how to draw them out and expose their reasoning to the light where they writher and scream "It burns! IT BURNS!".  

I am a smart person, and we all have the potential to be intelligent people, but i don't consider consider myself highly intelligent - my goal is to stay humble.  There are plenty of people who i see as being much more so than me, and i know i have many weaknesses and strengths. In fact, there are many topics i don't know, but on issues that i do know i will speak about to help others learn.  For example, about 9/11 which stunk to the stratosphere the instant i saw it, and even higher when i heard the media preaching lies and delusions about it, meaning there would be a lot of people to teach about the lies they told which many bought; i knew i would have to speak out and deal with people who had blindly bought the lies. Another topic i'm well versed in is dealing with online trolls.

I welcome people calling me out, and i don't put my head in the sand about it because if we are wrong that's how we can learn, and become stronger.  The problem rumham has is that they have no substance, no desire to teach, nor learn, but try to be disruptive and upset others (as the video explains, and their comments here expose).

If you think I'm wrong, then be civil and point out how I'm wrong, if you think i could learn something than teach.  If you want to use names, or belittle others as you have, it's not going to be effective. If you want to come out with insults to troll, well then you've just opened yourself up for a fair game of being trounced, and if you gauged your level too low, it's not going to go well for you, as you already know.
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Male 5,210
monkwarrior, "I am a smart person..."

Smart people don't have to say this.
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Male 3,617
markust123 kinda like repeating how humble he is over and over. 
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Male 6,232
markust123 selective reasoning again to ignore the point? That doesn't surprise me.  
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Male 1,049
markust123 r/iamverysmart

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Male 3,617
monkwarrior why do you care so much about +/- scores?
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Male 3,617
rumham also.. when you venture into your various internet dark places where you feed upon others angst to grow strong how many times do you type the word troll in a day. or do you have a hotkey that you press to spell troll quickly for you.
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Male 6,232
rumham To be quite honest, i don't use it very much.  Mainly when trolls make their appearance, as you well know.
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Male 6,232
rumham The +/- was used in a valid example to help explain how people can succeed against trolls, rather than just say "ignore them".  If you read positively to understand instead of read negatively to troll, you would have understood.
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Male 3,617
monkwarrior logical fallacy
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Male 6,232
rumham just the hard truth.
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Male 3,617
monkwarrior you said hard
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Male 1,049
rumham Come now rummy, you saw the video. Don't feed him. He gets off on this sort of thing.
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Male 3,617
but hes so comical. oh and you said gets off
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Male 3,667
rumham Yea marsii is right...remember it takes only four words:

Don't
Feed
The
Troll

:)
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Male 1,049
rumham But our shenanigans are cheeky and fun. His shenanigans are cruel and tragic. 

Don't feed the troll.
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Male 6,232
marsii Yes most trolls view their shenanigans as harmless cheeky fun, without empathy, and forget how their cheeky and fun can be considered cruel and tragic to others - its selfish.  What you see is simply what you have been projecting.  When it comes to me i openly admit (and warn) i'm a reflector, since i know how to twist it back to you so you see your 'cheeky and fun' as it really is perceived, ' cruel and tragic ' (and likely as you intended to be received as).  

The reality is cruel and tragic people have filled their heart with it so much, they overflow with it and it comes out of their mouth, and it's extra damaging and deeply hurts them when it comes back to them.  Because their hateful out has been exposed, it was ineffective, and their very own 'cheeky fun' then damages them worse (as my reply to the OP explains in great detail).

Is talking about the facts about 9/11 that go against what people who haven't examined the facts, but blindly accepted what the media said, cruel and tragic?  You would be 100% right it can be, depending on their level of indoctrination into the lie.  Yet i simply teach and continue to teach of the facts that point to a re-investigation, and those who try to turn it on me fail continually, showing they are likely to be wrong, or unable to learn/re-adjust their reasoning.

That's why you don't troll be cruel and tragic, but have empathy, think before you speak.  You especially shouldn't troll people who know how to handle trolls, especially when the abundance of your heart overflows with cruelty and tragedy.  Because will pour out unbridled, and smart people will find the chink in it and rip it open, sending it right back at you if you're not careful.

I hope you learned something today.
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior You mean trolls like you?
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Male 6,232
whosaidwhat The trolls who view me as a troll, so more like yourself, as your trolling is definitely a thing to you.
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior Nope, I am just stupid to respond to trolls like yourself. You trying to project your own hang-ups onto others doesn't make you right.
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Male 6,232
whosaidwhat actually you have a long history of trolling my posts all because of your fragile world-views you hold in relation to 9/11, and religion.  It's clear you hate facts, especially ones that expose deep questions with the deeply ingrained delusions you hold to.
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior You have, what, a third grade education? That's all I see any evidence of. But I hate "facts"? When you bring some out, I'll pay attention. You have yet to, though.
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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Male 6,232
whosaidwhat so let me guess, you ignored the video that explained your cognitive dissonance?  Figures.
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior Yes, I ignored the video that explains your cognitive dissonance. Learn English.
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Male 6,232
whosaidwhat  so you fear to face the fragility of your world view, no need to take your problems out on others. 
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior Thats rich coming from you. Projecting much?
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Male 6,232
whosaidwhat still trolling?  you know it does you no good.
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior No, it certainly doesn't do you any good to try to troll me. Must be terribly frustrating.
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Male 6,232
whosaidwhat You're the one who is frustrated over the fact that your 'official report' of 9/11 is a fabrication.  Frustrated to a point where you decided to put your head in the sand and troll to foist a lie, rather than learn the truth.  I quite enjoy knowing the truth, pointing out trolls, and exposing the fragility of your world-view.
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior If you are so interested in the "truth", then tell me what explosives were used to bring down the WTC.
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Male 6,232
whosaidwhat I'm interested in the truth, but clearly you are not, as several times i have told you already that a re-investigation could determine what, precisely, explosives were used to bring them down.  The explosions were witnessed by many first responders, but ignored by the 'official report', and there's also evidence of them being scrubbed from media reports.  

Your continued ignorance of the many times i've answered your question, shows your trolling nature.  Great example for this topic.
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior But you continue to push your agenda as if the evidence already exists. How is that a search for truth? I guess you only want the truth "from a certain perspective".
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Male 6,232
whosaidwhat The evidence exists.  You simply want to ignore it because of the fragility of your world view.
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior So what explosives were used? Wheres that "evidence"?
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Male 6,232
whosaidwhat Still continuing to ignore what you were told many times about this for the sake of being a petty troll?  Fine by me, i'll simply re-post what you ignored:

For the explosive evidence: You have the "Explosive Evidence:Experts Speak Out" that explores it in depth, not to mention the "Oral histories of 9/11" that shows many first responders reported explosives, and there is also the explosive evidence examined in the series "50 questions they can't answer about 9/11" here on I-A-B ( part 1, part 2, and part 3 ). 

As for what explosives, that's what a re-investigation could find out.
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior Ok, let me make sure I understand you correctly. You keep asserting, as fact, over and over that there were explosives used. Correct? So, if it is a proven fact, as you keep asserting, then there HAS TO BE evidence already in place of what explosives were used. Otherwise, there is no PROOF of explosives. You claim that I'm ignoring things, but you are unable to provide a single shred of proof to back up your claims. Now who has a "fragile world view"? I don't even need to prove the absence of explosives at this point; I just have to point out your lack of proof of their existence, and you fail, due to your continued assertion of what amounts to a lie at this point. 
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whosaidwhat There is evidence that was put forth in the documentary "Explosive Evidence: Experts Speak Out", not to mention the "Oral histories of 9/11" that shows many first responders reported explosives, and there is also the explosive evidence examined in the series "50 questions they can't answer about 9/11" here on I-A-B ( part 1, part 2, and part 3 ).   Even NIST admitted it didn't search for explosives despite all the indications explosives should have been examined for.  Because they didn't, many independent investigators took it upon themselves to investigate, and found the evidence of explosives, a that the official report is wrong, and that a re-investigation is needed.

You can squabble and repeat and ignore all you like, but your fragile world view simply just can't handle the facts that shows you were lied to, taken for a fool, deluded into a lie, and that is quite a shame.
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monkwarrior YOU are the one who keeps insisting that there were explosives, without a single shred of evidence. As I have already told you before, many of the fires I have been to must have had explosives in them, too, as I clearly heard explosions while we were battling the blaze. Never mind that the normal building contents were causing the "explosions"; surely that is irrelevant. Your conspiracy theory websites ARE NOT evidence,  but the ravings of lunatics, like yourself. Will you ever realize that, I wonder? Probably not. Either way, I'm tired of all your bullshit, and am done feeding the troll. Fuck off.
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whosaidwhat Sorry, you're the one who is ignoring experts who found Explosive Evidence, not to mention the firefighters, police, paramedics, and other first responders who expressed as much in the Oral histories of 9/11.  So you see, you're wrong again, it's not just me, and there's plenty of evidence.  You dishonor your fellow firefighters acting the way you do now, dismissing their testimony by assuming their reports and  experience with explosions by ignorantly equating them all to your own personal anecdote.

But i understand, you're simply butt hurt over the facts that expose your fragile world view, and choose to judge like an emotional and trollish bully who doesn't get their way.  You've dug your own hole, I'm glad you realize your ignorance gets you nowhere and choose to stop. Maybe when you get over your fragile world view you won't be so emotional, and may be actually civil, sensible, and in control again.
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monkwarrior There is no evidence. If there is, by all means, lay it out. No, not your websites again, I mean ACTUAL evidence. Until then, fuck off.
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whosaidwhat that's what a full re-investigation will determine and do.  The evidence is available, but the government, likely knowingly being implicit by its findings, is too afraid to face up, and open the re-investigation.

So thats why people are speaking up about the facts, and if you can't see the sensibility in that, then its just too bad.
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monkwarrior You aren't speaking up about facts; you are spreading lies and misinformation. You keep asserting that there IS evidence, yet, you refuse to actually PRODUCE any. You have ASSERTED AS FACT several times that THERE IS EVIDENCE OF EXPLOSIVES. How can there possibly be any actual evidence, without knowing what type? ACTUAL evidence would be in the form of residue or the like, which would tell what kind of explosives were used. Where is this evidence? Oh, thats right, it doesn't exist. Call for a re-investigation all you want; I have absolutely no problem with that. What I DO have a problem with is you asserting as fact that which there is ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE FOR. As far as our knowledge extends at this point, claiming, as a fact like you are doing, that there were explosives, is a LIE. If you want to say that there MAY HAVE BEEN explosives, go right ahead; but stop telling lies and touting them as absolute truth. Just fuck off already. Troll.
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whosaidwhat there there, perhaps you should have thought twice before trolling.  I mean, if it's going to make you get all upset and emotional maybe you ought to rethink that?
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monkwarrior Fuck off, troll.
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Male 6,232
whosaidwhat Well, if you are just going to get emotional and upset and angry maybe next time you'll think twice before clicking send on a reply where you're trolling.
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior Fuck off, troll.
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whosaidwhat  Like i said, if you are just going to get emotional and upset and angry maybe next time you'll think twice before clicking send on a reply where you're trolling. 
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior Fuck off, troll.
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Male 6,232
whosaidwhat Well, if you are just going to get emotional and upset and angry maybe next time you'll think twice before clicking send on a reply where you're trolling.
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior Fuck off, troll.
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whosaidwhat  Like i said, if you are just going to get emotional and upset and angry maybe next time you'll think twice before clicking send on a reply where you're trolling.  
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monkwarrior The only person here who may be "angry and emotional" is you, because no one will believe your constant lies. Maybe you should think twice before posting ignorant bullshit, with absolutely nothing to back it up?  Fuck off, troll. 
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whosaidwhat  Like i said, if you are just going to get emotional and upset and angry maybe next time you'll think twice before clicking send on a reply where you're trolling.   
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior Four words:

Fuck
Off
Stupid
Troll
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whosaidwhat  Well, if you are just going to get emotional and upset and angry maybe next time you'll think twice before clicking send on a reply where you're trolling. 
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monkwarrior The only person getting emotional here is you, so perhaps YOU should think twice before clicking send while trolling. Just four little words:

Fuck
Off
Ignorant
Troll
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whosaidwhat  You can get as emotional as you like, but you're simply continuing to show your own trolling, exposing your own ridiculousness, and still getting no where chasing your losses.
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monkwarrior Four simple little words:
Fuck
Your
Willful
Ignorance
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whosaidwhat Like i said, if you are just going to get emotional and upset and angry maybe next time you'll think twice before clicking send on a reply where you're trolling.   
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monkwarrior You are the very definition of "immature".
Four simple little words:

Fuck
Off
Willfully
Ignorant
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whosaidwhat You can get as emotional as you like, but you're simply continuing to show your own trolling, exposing your own ridiculousness, and still getting no where chasing your losses
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monkwarrior The only emotions I'm feeling over this whole thing are amusement, over how easily deluded you are, and sorrow, over how easily deluded you are. Truly, its a lack of education that's slowly destroying this world, and you are contributing. So very sad.
Four simple little words:
Fuck
Off
Lying
Troll
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whosaidwhat  Like i said, if you are just going to get emotional and upset and angry maybe next time you'll think twice before clicking send on a reply where you're trolling.    
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior Four simple little words:

Fuck
Off
Ignorant
Moron
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whosaidwhat  You can get as emotional as you like, but you're simply continuing to show your own trolling, exposing your own ridiculousness, and still getting no where chasing your losses  
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Male 1,940
monkwarrior Ole! Four simple little words:

Fuck
Off
Ignorant
Moron
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whosaidwhat Like i said, if you are just going to get emotional and upset and angry maybe next time you'll think twice before clicking send on a reply where you're trolling. 
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monkwarrior You know, you are absolutely right. I never should have tried to match wits with you, and I deeply regret doing so. After all, you are so poorly equipped...

I'll leave you alone and let your poor, empty head cool down now. Also, remember, just four little words:
Fuck
Off
Ignorant
Troll
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whosaidwhat You keep ignoring the explosive evidence found at the crime scene of 9/11. So you can get as emotional as you like, but you're simply continuing to show your own trolling, exposing your own ridiculousness, and still getting no where chasing your losses 
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monkwarrior Again, I apologize. I deeply regret attempting to match wits with the witless. You are so badly outclassed that you are totally clueless as to how badly you are outclassed. I'll leave you alone now, and let your poor, bruised ego heal a bit. You keep on living in your little bubble, and being clueless. I want no further part in your ignorance. Cheers!
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whosaidwhat  no worries, proeject all you like, and better luck next time.
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monkwarrior I knew you were a willfully ignorant idiot, but I had no idea your mental issues went THAT deep. Enjoy the rest of your own stupidity, without me. Don't bother ever replying to me again, unless you are willing to admit how much of an idiot you really are. Or do you really not know? Whatever.
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whosaidwhat Like i said, project all you like, and get as emotional as you like, but you're simply continuing to show your own trolling, exposing your own ridiculousness, and still getting no where chasing your losses.  It's really too bad for you.
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monkwarrior Well, its about time that you finally admitted to how much of an idiot you really are. See, I said, very clearly and plainly, that you shouldn't bother replying to me again, unless you were willing to admit how much of an idiot you really are. You replied, so that is your admission. Cheers!
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whosaidwhat As i said, project all you like, and get as emotional as you like, but you're simply continuing to show your own trolling, exposing your own ridiculousness, and still getting no where chasing your losses.  It's really too bad for you.
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marsii but he's our liter o'cola
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rumham Yeah but Farva eventually turned it around. Not so with this one. He's more like the Spurbury police chief. 
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Male 6,232
rumham and also 'truth', along with 'just' and 'the'.
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monkwarrior Except that you wouldn't know the truth if it slapped you in the face. Four simple little words:

Fuck
Off
Ignorant
Moron
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whosaidwhat  Not at all, it's you who keeps "ignoring"  the explosive evidence found at the crime scene of 9/11.  You can get as emotional as you like, but you're simply continuing to show your own trolling, exposing your own ridiculousness, and still getting no where chasing your losses  
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monkwarrior But that's just it! THERE IS NO EVIDENCE! Instead of giving me actual evidence, you keep referring me to websites who claim to have evidence, but, like you, never produce any. They keep going on and on with hear-say and "theories", but there is no ACTUAL evidence on any of them. Go ahead, quote me some actual evidence from one of your idiot brethren's websites. If you have to balls to even try, that is. Also, four simple little words:

Fuck
Off
Ignorant
Moron
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whosaidwhat Keep ignoring the evidence, im sure it goes away in your mind when you stick your head in the sand. Like i said, if you are just going to get emotional and upset and angry maybe next time you'll think twice before clicking send on a reply where you're trolling. 
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monkwarrior WHAT EVIDENCE? Why do you keep on harping on "evidence" that you are unable to produce? Please, PLEASE, show me this evidence! I cannot ignore what I have never seen in the first place! PLEASE!!! Show it to me! When you do, I will give it SERIOUS attention, but I can't until I see it. All you have produced is a bunch of lunatic raving, with ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to back any of it up.
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whosaidwhat You keep ignoring the explosive evidence found at the crime scene of 9/11. So you can get as emotional as you like, but you're simply continuing to show your own trolling, exposing your own ridiculousness, and still getting no where chasing your losses 
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monkwarrior Again, I apologize. I deeply regret attempting to match wits with the witless. You are so badly outclassed that you are totally clueless as to how badly you are outclassed. I'll leave you alone now, and let your poor, bruised ego heal a bit. You keep on living in your little bubble, and being clueless. I want no further part in your ignorance. Cheers!
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whosaidwhat  no worries, proeject all you like, and better luck next time.
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monkwarrior I knew you were a willfully ignorant idiot, but I had no idea your mental issues went THAT deep. Enjoy the rest of your own stupidity, without me. Don't bother ever replying to me again, unless you are willing to admit how much of an idiot you really are. Or do you really not know? Whatever.
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whosaidwhat Like i said, project all you like, and get as emotional as you like, but you're simply continuing to show your own trolling, exposing your own ridiculousness, and still getting no where chasing your losses.  It's really too bad for you.
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monkwarrior Well, its about time that you finally admitted to how much of an idiot you really are. See, I said, very clearly and plainly, that you shouldn't bother replying to me again, unless you were willing to admit how much of an idiot you really are. You replied, so that is your admission. Cheers!
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whosaidwhat As i said, project all you like, and get as emotional as you like, but you're simply continuing to show your own trolling, exposing your own ridiculousness, and still getting no where chasing your losses.  It's really too bad for you.
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This sounds remarkably like our nutjob friend, here on IAB. That individual even admits to at least one of the traits mentioned. And I may be able to prove another.
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DuckBoy87 its like in a group, where you say hey dipshit.. then someone says what. bingo theres your dipshit
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rumham lol :)
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DuckBoy87:
"This sounds remarkably like our nutjob friend (sarcasm/mockery a tool of trolls), here on IAB. That individual even admits to at least one of the traits mentioned (Insulting is also another tool of trolls). And I may be able to prove another (Baiting is also another tool of trolls)."

Review my post, consider the negativity you came out with here (noted like this), and then ask yourself this simple two-part question:  "Do i really have enough of a negative level to overcome the one i am trying to troll, AND can i be sure that the one I'm targeting is low enough in the positive for me to succeed?"   If the answer to either part is "no" or "i don't know", you would best leave it well enough alone, or as it is now.
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monkwarrior Aaaand, you were stupid enough to out yourself... Not everything is about you, you stupid tool.
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whosaidwhat Thanks for showing your poor, petty, prejudiced, and biased reasoning.  It's really a shame you have to make such ridiculous statements and judgments out of your own ignorance, which better apply to you.
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monkwarrior Someone mentioned the worst troll on here, and you immediately assumed yourself. How, exactly, did I fail? You are the one who inserted yourself. Why, if you didn't think it was about you, did you respond as you did? But I failed?
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whosaidwhat oh, so reading comprehension is your issue?  Clearly you like to assume based on emotions (no big surprise, since you've shown you do that with many other topics). 

As previously mentioned elsewhere on this thread, I was simply pointing out what i can see in duckboy's post to provide evidence for my post , since their words gave them away as i showed like this (and the expose like this)

Might need to look at re-education there, son.
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monkwarrior Yes, you do need to re-evaluate your tendency to jerk your knee like you do. 
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whosaidwhat Thanks for proving you're a troll.  I knew it already though.
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monkwarrior Its not so sad that you're a troll; whats really sad is that you don't even realize it.
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whosaidwhat As i've said many times, i'm fully well aware that most trolls think i'm a troll.  After all i'm a real life billy goat gruff to them, and they hate it, so they have only one retort, to project.
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monkwarrior If you say so.
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whosaidwhat i've seen it thousands of times.
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monkwarrior Yes, as the biggest troll on here, I'm sure you have.
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whosaidwhat that's rich coming from a troll.  your trolling is only  making trouble for yourself.
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monkwarrior Trouble? Bring it on, dumbass! Let me know when I'm actually in trouble. I'll be waiting!
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whosaidwhat you've been in trouble since you decided to troll me, and it irks you that it doesn't work with me, poor little troll.  Keep trolling, it does you no good.
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monkwarrior What trouble am I in then? Be specific. Also, what explosives were used to bring down the WTC?
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whosaidwhat The trouble your trolling causes you as you can see in this very thread (well maybe not you, but others).

Also for several times now, i have told you that a re-investigation could determine what, precisely, explosives were used to bring them down.  The explosions were witnessed by many first responders, but ignored by the 'official report', and there's also evidence of them being scrubbed from media reports.  

Your continued ignorance of the many times i've answered your question, shows your trolling nature.  Great example for this topic.
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monkwarrior You keep talking about trouble, but I still haven't seen any. Except, of course, for the trouble I am having in getting you to understand simple English. Is that the trouble you are referring to?

No, several times now, you have asserted that there WERE explosives used. If you had said that there MAY HAVE BEEN explosives used, I wouldn't have nearly so much of an issue. You are claiming something as an ABSOLUTE FACT, with no actual evidence. The first responders that "witnessed" the explosions HEARD them. By your reasoning, most of the structure fires I have ever been to MUST HAVE also involved explosives, as I have heard explosions at MANY of them. I guess I should ignore the fact that these "explosions" were caused by the "normal" contents of the structures...

Again, and try to keep up this time, PARROTING MIS-INFORMATION FROM YOUR IDIOT BRETHREN'S WEBSITES IS NOT AN ANSWER TO MY QUESTIONS! It is only "evidence" of how firmly they have the hook set in you.
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whosaidwhat you have trouble understanding facts.  You see, you have selective reasoning that causes you to ignore facts, such as facts that show how the 'official report' is wrong, which have been proven in labs.  You would prefer to tout the opinion known as 'the official report' as fact, when it has already been found to be flawed.  It's your problem, your trouble, not mine.
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monkwarrior I've proven some of your "theories" wrong already, and YOU continue to ignore facts. Your theories are wrong, thats whats wrong here.
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whosaidwhat No you haven't.  You've simply shown yourself to be the kind of person who can't stand facts, and will argue against them to protect your fragile world view.  You don't want answers, because if you did you would have found what you wanted already with what i've provided. No, you want to find excuses to protect your fragile world view - excuses you are not going to find, nor help you if you ever do.
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monkwarrior What "facts" can't I stand? Please, give me a list.
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whosaidwhat the facts put forth in the documentary "Explosive Evidence: Experts Speak Out", and more recently the findings of the Alaska University Fairbanks that has found out the official report is flawed, and that fires didn't bring down wtc7, as will be revealed in more depth here in the upcoming weeks: http://www.wtc7evaluation.org/

Just the usual facts that inconvenience your fragile world view.
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whosaidwhat The facts that the "Explosive Evidence:Experts Speak Out" investigation reveals explosive evidence in depth, not to mention the "Oral histories of 9/11" that shows many first responders reported explosives, and there is also the explosive evidence examined in the series "50 questions they can't answer about 9/11" here on I-A-B ( part 1, part 2, and part 3 ). 

Oh, and don't forget the fact that the 'official report' has been thrown into question now, because of all the evidence found, and a re-investigation is now warranted and needed (even though you still hold to the 'official report' as if it is fact when it's not).  In fact, if you were so serious about wanting facts, you would be agreeing to a re-investigation since the 'official report' has been proven to be flawed.  
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monkwarrior Exactly what part of I'M NOT GOING BY THE OFFICIAL REPORT!!!!!! is so damn confusing to you? I can't make it any clearer, and you are too dense to understand simple English, hence, my previous requests to you to LEARN ENGLISH!!! You further prove your ignorance of the English language by not answering my question, as usual. I asked, very clearly, for a simple list of the "facts I can't stand", and you are unable to fulfill even that simple of a request. I didn't ask you for more links to the extreme stupidity that you like to look at online; I asked you for a list. Since you are unable to understand simple English, and are too ignorant to understand even the simplest of things besides, I am done feeding the troll. Fuck off.
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whosaidwhat You may not be going by the 'official report', but you're simply pulling stories out of your butt with nothing to back them up, all to protect your fragile world view that was shaped by the 'official report' your TV indoctrinated you with. Now you're butt hurt over the facts that you can't overcome, and choosing to judge like an emotional trollish bully who doesn't get their way.  You've dug your own hole, I'm glad you realize your ignorance gets you nowhere and choose to stop. Maybe when you get over your fragile world view you won't be so emotional, and may be actually civil, sensible, and in control again.
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monkwarrior I've backed up my "stories". You haven't. Fuck off.
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whosaidwhat Yet there is justification for a re-investigation.  The evidence is available, but the government, likely knowingly being implicit by its findings, is too afraid to face up, and open the re-investigation.

So thats why people are speaking up about the facts, and if you can't see the sensibility in that, then its just too bad.
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monkwarrior I have no problem with a re-investigation. What I have a problem with is ignorant tools like yourself spreading lies and misinformation, and claiming it as absolute truth. Just fuck off already. Troll.
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whosaidwhat interesting, no wonder you have a problem with yourself.
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monkwarrior What? I was talking about 5cats!

Jeez, not everything is about you, dude.
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DuckBoy87 "And I may be able to prove another"

Good job on that one!
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Male 5,214
DuckBoy87 LOL! This was one of the greatest comment exchanges I've seen on IAB in a long time. I think there's a good chance I'm going to wake up in the middle of the night tonight laughing about this.
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squrlz4ever Thank you sir. It gives me more pleasure that others have enjoyed it than it does to bait someone.
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Male 5,210
squrlz4ever It was fucking brilliant.
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Male 1,223
DuckBoy87 I wish I was never insulted,mocked or baited by anybody on IAB.
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DuckBoy87 Where did i say it was me?  I said ask yourself about "... the one i am trying to troll..."

These are questions you would need to gauge about where your level is vs 5cats

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monkwarrior You responded to me therefore you clearly thought it was about you.

Anyhow, 5cats and I have a very nice love/hate relationship. We kid each other all the time.
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DuckBoy87 I was simply pointing out what i can see to provide evidence for my post.  As evidenced by asking you to ask yourself about the one you were trying to troll, since your words gave you away as i showed like this (and the expose like this).
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Male 3,617
monkwarrior you are so humble
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Male 6,232
rumham Well, it seem terrible to trolls, no doubt.
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Male 3,617
monkwarrior it seem stupid
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Male 6,232
rumham yes, trolls hate it.
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Male 1,223
DuckBoy87 I would think that there may only be one trait that doesn't apply to him.  Think he may even suffer from Delusional disorder.
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Male 313
:)
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Male 1,049
Required watching!
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Male 4,317
Sounds way off.
It doesn't seem to describe the average I am bored commenter.

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Male 21,025
 thunderbear, you didn't include a link to this post so I took a guess and posted what I thought you might've been referring too. If I got it wrong, let me know.
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fancylad 

Damnit.  My bad Fancy.  You posted the right link though.  Thank you very much :)
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Male 5,214
thunderbear I agree with Marsii. Great post, Thunderbear. Thanks!
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Male 164
squrlz4ever *bro paw*
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Male 1,049
thunderbear Very good post. Should make this the home or a pinned post for a while
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marsii Thanks.  It seemed appropriate, especially the end.  
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