Paper Ballots Are Back In Vogue Thanks To Russian Hacking Fears

Submitted by: trimble 1 month ago in News & Politics


According to the FBI, as many as 39 states had their election systems scanned or targeted by Russia this past November. There's no evidence of votes changed, but given the stakes, some state agencies that run elections are trying to curb any further interference prior to mid-term elections in November.

Their tool of choice: Ensuring systems can't be hacked, and if they are, making those breaches immediately obvious. To do this, some are going old school and dropping their touch-screen monitors to paper ballots -- I always ask for a paper ballot.
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Male 1,798
#1: Do electronic voting machines have an always on WIFI connection? If not, then there is no way they could've been hacked. If so, then someone is a total idiot for designing them so.

#2: Does anyone else find it strange that the very first area that it was claimed was "hacked" was still using paper ballots at the time? Considering this, do the claims of hacking still seem plausible? If its possible to hack paper ballots, as it seems to be from the claims, then what good will it do to go back to paper ballots?
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Male 5,027
In Washington state voting is done through the mail. Or you can drop your ballot off. Part time workers are hired during elections. Every name and address is hand checked for accuracy/spelling and every signature is hand checked to make sure it matches what is on record. I don't know why every state doesn't use this system. It would freak me out to be in a state that uses computers that do not print out your vote. How is that even legal?
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Male 39,955
Paper ballots are counted and the info entered in a computer.  
Paper does not solve hacking problem {if any}
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Male 1,511
Gerry1of1 All it does is give the sheep another form of security theater to keep them entertained while they are drained of their remaining independent thought.
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Male 1,687
I thought that going to computers was a big mistake from the very beginning. Using paper ballots does not stop ballot box stuffing but it makes it harder and leaves a recall record of the vote. Look at the Florida debacle with the hanging chads it was clear and worked out in the end because there was a real vote to be inspected and recounted, with computers this is not true and any computer can be hacked with the proper programming and the ability to change large numbers of votes can be done in the flash of an eye.
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Male 3,496
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Male 8,560
daegog So far the only 'evidence' that the Russians helped Trump is in hacking of the DNC computers and exposing the lies and corruption of the DNC. (i.e. exposing the truth)

And, according to new reports, the Russians may not have done even that. It appears it may have been an inside leak that did not involve the Russians at all. 
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Male 595
megrendel who needs evidence? Common sense suffices in this. I'm not sure when it became ok to flatly dispute everything said by our intelligence agencies, but in ten years, when it's no longer too hot to touch, you can bet your ass their gonna put this shit out there. Ever think, that the NSA might know something you don't? It's not like they're listening or anything.
Stop pretending to be rational. What was it that news anchor was saying? He could take a dump on your desk and you'd be ok with it.
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Male 8,560
thething911 think, that the NSA might know something you don't?

I'm sure they know many things about a great many subjects. But until it's presented as fact and/or evidence, there's no evidence (That's how it works). 

thething911 He could take a dump on your desk and you'd be ok with it.

You seem to be under the delusion that I like Trump. I only consider him better than the alternatives we were presented with.  Nor do I hold an irrational derangement based on inaccurate media portrayal of him like some. 

Nor would I have lost my shit if Hillary had won the way rabid liberals did when Trump won.
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Male 469
I welcome this change even if there wasn't a hacking controversy. Who wouldn't have seen this coming? Just a bad idea waiting to happen. 
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Male 8,560
 There's no evidence of votes changed, 
 There's no evidence of votes changed, 
 There's no evidence of votes changed, 
 There's no evidence of votes changed, 
 There's no evidence of votes changed, 

But, let's be sore losers and assume there were. 
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Male 595
megrendel ^this guy knows fucking nothing
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Male 8,560
thething911 ^this guy can't handle fucking facts.
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megrendel You come home, your window is broken and there are strange footprints in the flower bed outside the window.  But you can't seem to find anything missing in your home, so it's all OK, right?
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Male 8,560
stevopusser Window broken and strange footprints = 'evidence'.

Let me reiterate: 

 There's no evidence of votes changed, 

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Male 1,018
megrendel "we don't care. we won"
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Male 8,560
marsii “Elections have consequences, and at the end of the day, I won.” – Obama, 2009.
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Male 4,153
marsii They won for completely different reasons. It is disingenuous to say the Russians "hacked the election", it makes it sound like they hacked into voting machines and changed results. They allegedly hacked Clintons server and the DNC server and released damaging E-mails but even that is not why Trump won. Clinton was awful and enough people were fed up with the direction the Democratic party had been taking the country. Get over it already.
 
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Male 1,018
trimble  "we don't care. we won" 
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Male 8,560
marsii “Elections have consequences, and at the end of the day, I won.” – Obama, 2009.
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Male 1,018
megrendel Without Russian help tho.
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Male 7,943
megrendel If that were true why is trump commissioning a voter fraud investigation run by Kris Kobach?
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Male 1,018
normalfreak2 oh snap!
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Male 471
megrendel I think the idea is that voters want confidence that there is a free and fair election. If that means taking a little bit to count ballots, so be it. 
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Male 8,560
toetagmodel2 I have no issue with that, as long as we can oversee who's doing the counting.
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Male 1,687
toetagmodel2   I agree completely. 
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