In Case You're Not Paying Attention, Southeast Asia Is Experiencing One Of The Worst Floods In History.

Submitted by: normalfreak2 2 months ago in News & Politics
Devastating monsoon rains affect 41 million people in South Asia.

Hurricane Harvey isn't the only 1,000 year flood being experienced.

From Reuters: The death toll from floods in India, Bangladesh and Nepal has climbed above 1,200, officials said on Friday, as rescue workers scramble to provide aid to millions of people stranded by the worst such disaster in years.

All three countries suffer frequent flooding during the June-September monsoon season, but international aid agencies say things are worse this year with thousands of villages cut off and people deprived of food and clean water for days.

Government officials in India’s eastern state of Bihar said at least 379 people had been killed over the past few days, with thousands sheltered in relief camps away from their inundated homes.
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Male 15,339
One in a million events happen all the time because there are many opportunities for things to go wrong. That doesn't mean we shouldn't stop doing things that raise the probability of more one in a million events happening.
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Male 41,175
Here is a very simple yet intelligent look at what "A 500 Year Flood" really means:
https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2017/09/02/can-two-500-year-floods-ten-years/

Don't let the hysteria blind you to the facts: Houston can easily have 2x "500 Year Events" within 10 years because that 500 year is an estimate, not a law. It is based on very short data, not thousands of years worth: it can and will be changed with every passing year as new facts come in.

Facts are cool!
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Male 4,317
Only one thing to do now. Build a ship and collect two of every animal
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Male 41,175
dm2754 There were more than 2 of some animals, but I know what you mean, lolz!

And be prepared for the inevitable incest after the Flood is over... O_o
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Male 41,175
Houston didn't have even close to record flooding, it was far worse in the 50's (8 feet or more higher). Fewer people then and much smaller city of course.

Asia has floods every year, this is not proof of AGW it is proof of normal.

Again: there are lots more people than ever, and they are living in places that no one with any common sense would have lived 100 years ago, but have little choice due to crowding.
Areas prone to flooding and landslides used to be avoided, not have thousands living there in ramshackle, tumbledown housing.

And I just had to share this one:

Sorry it's off topic :p My money's on the cowboy...
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Male 3,617
5cats why post this. just why. god you are a cockwig
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Male 8,071
5cats https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/08/29/houston-is-experiencing-its-third-500-year-flood-in-3-years-how-is-that-possible/?utm_term=.ce7433db2295


They've only had 3 500 year floods in 3 years, Sure AGW may not be responsible but to suggest there's no  there there, now that's down right dishonest.
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Male 41,175
normalfreak2 How can it be a "500 year" record flood when it was no where near the record?

"Including Harvey, the country has experienced at least 25 such 500-year rain events since 2010" In the USA.

"A 500-year flood isn't necessarily something that happens once every five hundred years. Rather, a 500-year flood is an event that has a 1 in 500 chance of occurring in any given year." (emphasis at the site)

"It's unwise to try to link climate change to any specific storm or even string of storms." (my emphasis)

Again: do you even bother to LOOK AT the things YOU link? You just read the headline and copy-pasta?

2015:storm drops lots of rain on Houston.
2016 a storm NEAR Houston drops lots of rain, making the river flood up there.

It's called the weather, it happens. A few bad years in a row is actually common, especially along the coast.

And in Houston, floods happen EVERY YEAR since 1996 at least:
https://weather.com/storms/severe/news/houston-flood-history-april2016

What is the record year for one of those areas? 1935... by a long ways. Was that AGW too?
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Male 41,175
5cats It says there was a reply, but it isn't here now :/

Once again he's (nf2) linked something which supports MY side and not his. He does this a lot! And gets caught, then pretends it never happened. A pattern he has followed for years, he's a congenital liar.

His ignorance is self-inflicted: he scans the headlines, decides what the article says (without reading it) and either links it or (if shown to him as a link) rejects it outright. Again: without even glancing through it! This is what he does.

To use ONE storm, the first in 12 years, as proof of AGW is just disgusting.
To claim that something that happens every single year for 3000+ years now is proof of AGW is even more disgusting.

But that's all AGW has: hysteria and emotion. Fear-mongering and hate-mongering. No science, no facts, no logic at all.
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Male 8,071
5cats Wrong again.  AGW has a lot going for it.  It's a repeatable lab experiment on a small scale.  There's  no reason to believe it doesn't work on the larger scales.  Nothing else can account for the readings we have this century.  We shouldn't be hot this year the Sun is in a solar Minimum IE no sun spots and that means output is lower.  Yet we keep having record breaking modern day temperatures
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Male 41,175
normalfreak2 Oh, nice change of topic. Just ignore the fact that your link provided ample evidence for what I claimed.  Pretend it never happened just like you always do. Ignore, deny and claim I'm lying when I point it out to you...
 
But most of all: change the subject, asap!
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Male 41,175
normalfreak2 Nothing else could POSSIBLY account for it? Nothing? Because in all the history of the Earth it has NEVER been warmer than today! The CO2 never higher! The 12 years without a major hurricane in the USA, that could ONLY be caused by human actions. No other cause is possible because until AGW started the climate never changed, not ever! Fixed and unchanging at the perfect temperature for all life!

That's a big fat lie and you know it. 

"There's  no reason to believe it doesn't work on the larger scales."

Because the science is settled! ALL the factors in the Earth's climate are KNOWN! Millions of them, perfectly understood and accounted for. They can be factored in down to the smallest decimal, there is NO error in the AGW calculations! So if it "works in a computer model" then Mother Nature cannot possibly behave in any other fashion: the oceans will rise 6-7 feet by 2020 exactly as predicted... & etc.
And the North Pole was ice-free by last year's summer too. Don't believe the facts which prove otherwise, that would make you a skeptic.
On and on it goes, but NO OTHER POSSIBLE EXPLANATION BUT 100% HUMAN CAUSED GLOBAL CLIMATE CATASTROPHE exist. Not one!
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Male 8,071
5cats We've gone over this at length in the past....Yes the Earth was warmer at one point in the past, There's no argument there, rate of change matters.  The rate is unprecedented.  
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Male 41,175
normalfreak2 That's bullshit and you know it.
You also are changing the subject, because I was right (again!) and you were wrong (again!) you know that as well.

There's NO WAY we can know for a fact what happened over a 100 (50 actually) year span some 400,000 years ago, ok? WE DO NOT know this 'rate' is unprecedented in Earth's millions of years: to say we do is a lie. It might be? But there's ZERO evidence to prove it. And starting at the lowest point in recent times (Little Ice Age) and ending at the hottest (1998) SKEWS the data. Start in 1000 and end in 2000 = there's your actual and accurate rate of increase.

Even in modern times (past 5000 years) there's been warming trends lasting ~10 years that were MUCH faster than today's rate of 1.3C per century.
So you lie. Again. Deliberately.
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Male 41,175
normalfreak2 So you admit your claim isn't proven, it's an estimate. There is just as much evidence against it as for it. That I am right.

And you admit you are a coward by refusing to address what I said: that your link supported my point, not yours.

And another thing: AGW is NOT responsible for the flooding in Asia, which happens literally every single year for as long as humans have kept records there...
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Female 4,606
We've been moving needed items/money to both in my area, my boss has family in India and our community loves her to death so help is coming from a lot of places.
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