Here we go again with Obamacare repeal

Submitted by: normalfreak2 2 months ago in News & Politics


This Senator is the one that called for the Jimmy Kimmel's test. This bill protects Jimmy Kimmel's kids but for poor people not so much.

This Bill is the same bill they tried passing before but shifts the focus to block grants. Which has been proven to NOT WORK time and time again.

Bonus Link Jimmy kimmel catches Bill Cassidy lying:



Here is why Block Grants can't and won't work.
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Male 531
Seems like most of you forget why we have this problem in the first place. I for one, having dealt with the VA, do not want government run healthcare. Watch the video of Bernie Sanders and the Canadian doctor (and realize it will be much worse here). Your best bet is to eat right, exercise, and hope that you chose the right parents.

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Male 8,183
Shelworth That Dr Martin stated there are long lines in some areas and wait times?  Yea nobody is stating the Canadian system is perfect, but it's damn better than what we in America have now.  I speak as a dual citizen that has utilized services from both countries.  America's system is ARCHAIC.  That's being nice.

Canada doesn't have 45,000 people dying a year because they can't get health care coverage.  I'm fairly certain it's under 100 at absolute worst.
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Male 3,342
Billions for pointless war mongering, not a farthing for health care.
It is obvious that our government is out to thwart the will of the People.
Make no mistake; This is not a liberal vs conservative, democrat vs republican problem.
It is merely one more indicator that our government is out of control, corrupt and self serving,  and actively erodes away our rights, day by day.
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Male 8,183
captkangaroo This is not a liberal vs conservative, democrat vs republican problem.
Bingo but if you read the extremes they are running the country and they are making this a liberal vs conservative, democrat vs republican.  
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Male 3,342
normalfreak2 
No, that is the show they perform.
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Male 8,183
captkangaroo Well it get's people to put on the jersey's and get into their corners.  They are stoking the tribalism.....
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Male 3,342
normalfreak2 
Better yet, hang every last corrupt, treasonous senator and representative.
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Male 569
Worry about the term "Custodial care." I'm a nurse, and I see denials every day because of this stupid term.
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Male 8,183
According to a spokesperson for Mitch McConnell  they have the votes to pass this.  You better tell your family, friends, anyone that will listen to call their damn congress person and let them know exactly how you feel otherwise this will get passed....
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Male 4,169
Republicans are fully allowed to lie because: HILLARY'S EMAILS!!

Hillary could die right his very instant and they will still shout: HILLARY'S EMAILS!!

Easy Fix for healthcare:

No member of Congress (or their families) gets ANY health care unless 90% of all Americans have healthcare.
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Male 569
daegog While your logic about emails seems tenuous at best, there is truth that republicans know that repealing the benefits of ACA is political suicide. Taking healthcare from constituents is a quick way to lose a vote in 2, 4, or 6 years.
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Male 4,169
toetagmodel2 Im not sold on that idea.

Most people have this notion that THEIR elected politician is a good guy and is working for them, but the problem is the OTHER politicians.

I think the republicans can repeal the ACA and totally fucking the morons that put them in office and STILL get re-elected in most cases.
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Male 4,379
daegog Indeed, that is what you get with two party politics. 
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Male 3,776
Just sat down and watched that Jimmy Kimmel clip...I highly recommend everyone watch it as well, it exposes the real issues we will be in for if this bill passes.
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Male 3,776
If they push this through, they are going to cause chaos for mid-term elections.  Overwhelmingly, Obamacare is the least of the Republican bases issues and most do not want it repealed.  That is going to put those seeking reelection in a tight spot on what to support, this policy or the public.
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Male 4,379
You know, you would think the ACA has been around since 1776 the way people act, it hasn't been around all that long at all. I don't remember the bodies piling up in the streets and I'm in health care.
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Male 410
trimble "I don't remember the bodies piling up in the streets and I'm in health care." Out of sight, out of mind, I suppose. They were there. All 45,000 in 2002 alone. 

Source: 
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/09/new-study-finds-45000-deaths-annually-linked-to-lack-of-health-coverage/

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trimble 40,000 people were dying every year because they had no health care coverage before the ACA came along. It's not dead bodies being piled up, but it's a lot of people dying unneccessary deaths......asshole.
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Male 3,776
pleasestop Not to mention getting denied or gouged by insurance for pre-existing conditions.  Or as you pointed out, how this bill will allow States to jack up your premium if you become ill, just like if you get into a car accident.

Bullshit...total bullshit...
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Male 4,169
trimble How old are you?
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Male 5,307
There has been no greater proof that sensational partisan media brainwashes people than watching conservatives in 2009 angrily appose improvements to health insurance. It still baffles me to see people going against their own interests. This is an issue that should have brought both sides together to come up with a better solution. This is an issue that still should bring both sides together. The ACA was a start. When this new horrible bill fails, both sides need to work together to improve the ACA.
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When they pass this bill, my hope is that all of the idiots that have been clamoring for the end to Obamacare become ill.

There's a clause in this legislation where the moment you get sick, your insurance company has the right to raise premiums to uncontrollable levels.

May all of you assholes get sick.
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Male 4,379
pleasestop I doubt it will pass.
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trimble It very likely could. Republicans have been pushing for Obamacare repeals since it passed with no working alternative in place. Republicans are the least empathetic assholes out there who only give two shits about themselves.

Republican slogan:

Republicans: "I got mine, fuck you asshole"
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Male 8,183
pleasestop I think that's the ONLY thing Trump supporters understand, when it happens to THEM and ONLY them then they will cry.
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Male 1,028
I do not understand American reluctance to treat healthcare as a citizen's right.
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Male 593
punko Because BOOTSTRAPS!  Obviously everyone that that works hard will eventually get paid off for it.  Therefore if you are poor, it is your own fault, and you deserve to get sick and die.
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Male 1,089
punko How else will the poor know that I'm better than them?
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Male 402
JEEZUS  - just get rid of obamacare already.  Kill it.  Don't replace it.
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Male 8,183
dkm458 So you want to go back to the way we used to do things?  You realize how bad it was right?
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Male 402
normalfreak2 I realize that when my daughter was diagnosed with leukemia 3 yrs ago I got a bill for $677 THOUSAND for her first year of treatment.  Mittwit Romney and obummer did me no favors.
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Male 5,307
dkm458 Really sorry to hear about your daughters diagnosis. 

I'm curious how this bill is possible. If you have say a $6,500 deductible isn't that the max you will have to pay in a year?

Update: I checked my policy. I have a $6,500 deductible with an out of pocket maximum of $7,150. What kind of insurance do you have that such a bill is possible?
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Male 8,183
dkm458 First off, I hope your daughter is/has been able to get Leukemia into Remission.  


Secondly, more to the meat and potatoes, What type of insurance did you have?  Right off the bat I would think you see the dire need to have Socialized Insurance......677,000 is RIDICULOUS and you couldn't possibly expect everyone who has cancer to pay for that....Those costs are directly related to us having a PRIVATE only insurance model.... You do see the correlation correct?
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Male 402
normalfreak2 The correlation that I see is that my insurance went up to just under $1,700/mo for me and my family and I still was hit with that bill.  Somebody has to pay for others to have insurance.  And yes, thank you, she finished chemo dec 16 and everything is going well.  
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Male 8,183
dkm458 You were one of the people who didn't qualify for subsidies because you made too much money I bet.  That bunch of people definitely saw a price hike.  I agree  that cost should have been evened out a bit more, but you realize the rest of us are paying for every uninsured person that uses the ER right?
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Male 4,379
dkm458 Yep, I think most agree and understand it is just a failure that can't be "fixed".
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Male 1,089
trimble That's the general opinion of the U.S. privatized insurance system.
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