Abby Martin Exposes What It's Really Like In Palestine On Joe Rogan's Podcast

Submitted by: layla_wilson 2 months ago in News & Politics


Honestly I implore you all to watch this before even thinking about commenting. I get slammed as an Anti-semite and a terrorist lover anytime I speak up for Palestinians and Muslims getting persecuted at the hands of Israel. 

This first hand account of what really goes on in Palestine and their treatment at the hands of the IDF is truly gut wrenching, so I would honestly say viewer discretion is advised. 

I'm not very good at doing summaries and if I did do one, it wouldn't do any justice to what she is exposing. So please, watch, listen and if you still feel that they deserve this treatment and feel they are the terrorists. You are a fool.
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Male 530
Palistine is,and has been,a terrorist state since the PLO gunned down Israel olympians.
Let Palistine die at their own hands,as it has been doing.

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"So please, watch, listen and if you still feel that they deserve this treatment and feel they are the terrorists. You are a fool."

Insulting people who disagree with you is not a way to win over public opinion. 

Sorry Layla, but at this time I will not even  listen to your arguments. You have been shown to be too willfully and forcefully biased on this particular issue and do not deserve my continued consideration.
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Male 1,891
After seeing jayme21 comments and back-tracing the dog-vomit faced anti-semite's historical commentary, I have concluded that the point of this post is further the detriment of the Jewish people.  It's a hit piece rooted in layla_Wilson's hate for a group he/she/it does not identify with.

Good job on spreading the hate I-A-B.  So much for anyone's attempts to make this anything but a breeding ground for division and hate.
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insaneai Its funny you back tracked my historical commentary, you really are so pissed off about this, because you believe Israel is a completely innocent fun loving country and you are going through so much effort to try and insult and discredit me for simply pointing out facts, yet you have still to actually counter argue the points made in the video - you just speak shit. Because you are a sad little troll who couldent deal with trolls so he became one, you said it yourself.

But I can tell the main reason for the amount of emotion you are pouring into this topic, is the fact you are scared of the truth and cant accept reality. its ok I understand, its a very common trait of the simple minded.


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layla_wilson So where, exactly, does he say "...Israel is completely innocent..."?
Or are you making up lies and then accusing others of saying them?

And the main reason YOU are "pouring this amount of emotion" into it is... Lolz! What a tool.
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layla_wilson It wasn't that hard, someone else did the work as seen below.  You really are a special kind of stupid aren't you?  What's stronger in you, your hatred or ignorance?  I think it's your ignorance based on your commentary and the hatred you spew is only a side effect.
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Ill be honest with you here, "ignorance is Bliss" I seriously wish I was ignorant, I wouldent bother reading as much as I do, and I wouldent think as much as I do. I would be like. You. An ignorant little troll who admits that he trolls because he couldent be a positive influence. 

You can call it hatered and ignorance all you want, but in reality its facts and opinions.

On the other hand, you have proved no points, and shown no facts. You're just being a fool.
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layla_wilson 

Have a nice life.  I hope it's a short one if you're going to continue with your hate mongering.  

Maybe you should take your Neo-Nazi self to an ANTIFA terrorist march.  Make sure you scream "Death to the Jews" loud enough for everyone to hear and get your goose step down for them so they know who to attack.
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insaneai Actually if you want to be political about it, Israel is a country of Neo-Nazi's. The Israeli Government are Fascists and want to ethnically cleanse Arabs. I stand up for the rights of Everyone who is targeted with violence by Neo-Nazis. Hence why I stand up for Palestine.

Heres a Rally Demanding the release of a "Hero" Who murdered an unarmed immobilized Palestinian and is now under house arrest. The man fliming is a Jewish Israeli. Look at what happens when you try and film.
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layla_wilson You are so far off the deep end, you have no hope of returning to normal.  


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insaneai Fine by me, Normal is rather boring. I would rather be me. Have fun conforming and living a life of denial in the shallow end. I'll continue to base my opinions on facts and be far off the deep end.


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Male 41,192
Bullshit, that is all.
Palestine is Gaza, or Jordan, take your pick. If you support the Palestinian people? You'd push for them to take Jordan back, not to drive the Jews out of UN Mandated Israel.

There currently is a 'knife intifada' ongoing where Imams and PLO leadership encourage any Palestinian to go and stab any Jew they feel like stabbing. Men, women, children, babies: all blessed by Allah!
Driving your car into crowds of Jews is also acceptable.
The reason for it is just as fake as all the other intifadas: allegedly the Jews are going to take over and destroy the Mosque of the Rock... :rolleyes:
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5cats Palestine is Palestine. You clearly have minimal knowledge of the political situation of the area as you have demonstrated repeatedly in the past. "Drive Jews out of UN Mandated Israel" are you serious? its Israel driving Palestinians out of Palestinian territory (West Bank) Which Israel has been illegally occupying and illegally building settlements (Partly funded by the Kushner foundation) Aswell as the Golan Heights in Syria which they annexed as a water source for Israel.

"There currently is a 'knife intifada' ongoing where Imams and PLO leadership encourage any Palestinian to go and stab any Jew they feel like stabbing. Men, women, children, babies: all blessed by Allah!"

And IDF are actively trained to shoot to maim, which includes shooting innocent Palestinians in the penis/vagina. They commit warcrimes on an almost daily basis in Palestine. They treat arabs as less than human, they have been persecuting them for 50 years. But yeh, the Palestinians are the bad guys because of the knife infida (because they don't have guns to shoot back with)
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layla_wilson I'm sure their annexation of Golan and West Bank have nothing to do with being (you know) invaded repeatedly... 
Jews in those areas also have a UN Right to grow their population, exactly the same as the Palestinians do. I don't see you complaining about them growing...

If you're hung up on the name of the region, then it is you who fails to understand history. The current name, however, is Israel. It is a legal nation of Jews. Like it or lump it.

So the IDF are trained entirely differently than every single other police force or army in the entire world eh? Lolz! You are a joke.

Palestinians are bad for doing things like shooting rockets at civilians deliberately. They have guns and frequently use them, this current intifada hopes to capitalize on the brutality of knives, and their easy accessibility and transportation. And deliberately targets civilians. They also elected terrorists to govern themselves, who have not held an election in what, 8-9 years now? They have made their bed, now they must lay in it.
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5cats That comment proves you have no clue. Its fine, you are lumped in with the rest of the globule fools.

Illegally building settlements is Illegal.

Its the Legal Nation of the Jews, Saudi Arabia is the Legal Nation of the Muslims. I will condem both for their political crimes and warcrimes, but once again that doesn't make me an anti-Semite.

Yes the IDF are trained differently. eh? Lolz! Your a joke.

How many Israeli Civilians have died at the hands of Palestine in the last 50 years, and how many Palestinian Civilians have died at the hands of Israel? Shooting rockets does minimal damage compared to Annihalation of city blocks at a time.

The Syrian army, along with Russia and HAMAS, are doing more to oust ISIS in Syria than the US Coalition. But you don't hear of this do you? You just hear of the US Coalitions illegal bombing in Syria.
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Male 386
Martin does great work; I admire her courage. 
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Male 41,192
mrsnowmeiser She seems to have one or two good works in her resume (that's pretty good for a 'journalist' these days!) but this ain't one of them. This is PLO propaganda.
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Male 530
Somehow, I don't think she's spent much time in reality
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Male 386
zeegrr She apparently went to Palestine herself. Have you?
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Male 530
mrsnowmeiser No, I don't visit terrorist states.
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Male 386
zeegrr So, you first mention that Martin doesn't "spend much time in reality" when in fact she visited there herself and made a documentary on it. At the same time, you mention that you haven't been there yourself. Doesn't make for a particularly strong argument. 
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Male 530
mrsnowmeiser Your logic doesn't hold.We know all about Mars, even though no one has ever been there.

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zeegrr It does hold. Your claim was that Martin doesn't "spend much time in reality". Your argument is directly refuted by the fact that she spent time there-personally-in "reality". 

I wasn't disputing the fact that we as humans can know about things without directly experiencing them; this is implied. You, on the other hand, claimed something entirely different, i.e., that Martin doesn't "spend much time in reality".
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Male 41,192
mrsnowmeiser There are no IDF in Gaza, so this is obviously as fake as the 'films' and photo-shopped 'evidence' that comes out of the PLO regularly (and Reuters et al accept without question, no matter how poorly faked!!).

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5cats There are IDF in the Westbank, its littered with Checkpoints. Gaza is pretty much an open Air prison, completely surrounded by IDF. 
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Male 41,192
layla_wilson Lies. The checkpoints are to stop terror attacks against Israeli civilians (of all races). The Wall was built for that purpose too, and has been hugely successful. Many other nations are building that style of wall too, to keep out (wait for it) Palestinian and other terror groups.

Gaza has a border with Egypt: it is NOT surrounded. Also any legal materials can be taken into Gaza, it is that which is used for terrorism that is prohibited. 
Hundreds of Millions of dollars pour into Gaza alone, it is the most highly charity getting place on the planet! And what does Hamas do with those millions? They dig terror tunnels, build rockets by the thousands, pay terrorists and wage Jihad against Jews.
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5cats A pretty deluded response...
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layla_wilson So, you're just stupid.

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Male 41,192
layla_wilson Hamas does not spend millions to stockpile thousands of rockets? They do not dig terror tunnels?
And you claim I'm deluded, yet what I said is the undeniable truth: unless Hamas itself has lied to you for years now. Which would also prove my words... take you pick!
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Male 4,323
I've never met a Palestinian that white before.
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dm2754 She's born and bred American.
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layla_wilson 
oh i see.
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Male 707
 I get slammed as an Anti-semite and a terrorist lover anytime I speak up for Palestinians and Muslims getting persecuted at the hands of Israel. 

No you get called an anti semite because you admit you don't like jewish people and say anti semitic things. You also use zionist as a code for jews.

To be honest, theres a huge misconception of anti-semitism as there has been since WW2.

Like when you were justifying Hitlers hatred of the jews although not his methods

Im not saying i agree he did, but i do think he had good reasoning behind it.

You also express a belief the jews run the world and are uniquely bad

But sadly its Judaism that has been corrupted the most and least reported on (because guess who owns most of the MSM).

That's nothing to do with your views on Israel. You use it as a shield. You are not criticised because you dare speak out against Israel. No its because you dont like jews. I think Israel is more complex then you give it credit for, buts its not blameless and i can see and respect the other opinion(Especially settlement building). You though, you just dont like jews and therefore unable to have any nuance or understanding of the otherside when you dont like, respect or belive they are people like anyone else. 

All quotes from this thread 

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jayme21 Also "You though, you just dont like jews and therefore unable to have any nuance or understanding of the otherside when you dont like, respect or belive they are people like anyone else. "

Complete Lie. There are Jews I like, they are all people like you and me.

The Israelis consider Arabs as less than human though.


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layla_wilson There are plenty of self-hating Jews who want to destroy Israel. I'm sure you'd be friends with them eh?

Israel gives Arabic people full citizenship, last time I checked. Can you say that about any Muslim nations? For Palestinians I mean, even Jordan refuses to accept them any longer after (wait for it!) waves of terrorism back in the day :-o
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jayme21 Just as an fyi - its not me that's down voted you.

There is a huge misconception of Anti-Semitism. Because I dislike some Jews and dislike the state of Israel for their horrific actions. Does not make me an Anti-Semite.

He did have good reasoning behind it. He didn't like the control they had over Germany and the influence they had on politics through their ownership of the banks. He looked at what happened In Russia(Bolshevik revolution) and decided he didn't want that to happen to Germany. But as I said, I don't agree with what he did.

Judaism is the oldest of the monotheistic religions, therefor has had most time to stray from its roots (as it has)

Despite saying all this. I'm still not Anti-Semitic. Anti-Israel or Anti-Zionist yes. most definitely.

Lets define the words Anti and Semite. Anti - Against, Semite - a member of any of the peoples who speak or spoke a Semitic language, including in particular the Jews and Arabs

Many Jews world wide are Anti-Semitic because of their views of Arabs. Let that sink in.
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layla_wilson Sigh... such nonsense...

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anti-semite

We are speaking English here ok? Not progressive bullshit. The phrase "anti-Semite" has a very specific meaning. 
If you think Jews secretly rule the world and control everything? You're bat-shit insane.
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5cats Anti - Against, Semite - Semitic speaking person.

to Specify the term anti-Semite to only Jews is to claim they are the only Semitic people. 
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Male 41,192
layla_wilson Speak fucking English, not bullshit.

So the Dictionary, which I even LINKED FOR YOU is lying? Is it controlled by Jews too? Fuck you.
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Male 1,891
Maybe Palestinians should get the fucking memo and get the fuck out of Israeli land.  Or they can do what's been going on for thousands of years in that area, kill each other to gain control.  Once way or the other, I don't give a shit about the shitty conditions they refuse to leave.

How the fuck is this our problem in the USA?  It isn't.  We're allies with Israel, not responsible for them in their local affairs.
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insaneai the way I've always seen it is the Israelis are an invading Force that moved into Palestine and land uninvited and just treid to take over the place.
A lot like the Americans.
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dm2754 That view requires one to stop at a specific point in history and demand that no changes in land ownership ever occur again.  (Please ignore other intentionally trolling comments with another I-A-B user, this comment is sincere and intended to be a catalyst for thought.)

You have a valid point but only in a certain context.  It could also be said that any non-jew in the area is an invading force because the jews held the land for thousands of years.  It could be said that the Jews were an invading force when they left Egypt and returned to their historic lands.  Many things could be said.  The only thing I'm certain of in this situation is that possession of the land throughout history has been fluid.

We could also say that the current population of the USA are invaders, even those who call themselves Native Americans who happen to be guilty of quite a bit of genocide and causing extinction of hundreds of species on the continent.  But you'd have to take a pretty extreme position and defend it with data going back at least 45 thousand years (maybe longer) to prove such statements.  (it is actually possible to prove these statements, just not prove the relevance since humans killing other tribes and hunting species to extinction 45k years ago hardly correlates to the isreal /palestine conflict)

I think the real issue to address is how do we manage to attain peace in the area?  Genocide seems like a great idea until you figure out that the rest of the world is going to retaliate.  Nobody is willing to be the first to put down their weapons anymore, at least not really.
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dm2754 Not in the slightest. Jews were there LONG before Muslims were, that's a fact!
And Jews have lived there non-stop for 3000+ years, another fact!
And the UN officially created the Nation Of Israel, they have every right to be there.
Just like white people in North America do.
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5cats Going by your logic, Israel belongs to Lebanon seeing as they are the descendants of the Canaanites. They lived there before the Israelites, and their decendants have lived there non-stop for Longer....

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layla_wilson Lolz! So? Even if it were true, which it is not, it still doesn't matter: the UN says Israel exists: like it or not.
Were Canaanaites Muslims? Did they speak the current language? Have they been there without pause for 3000+ years? No no and no. 
And that's Lebanon, not Israel. Let Hamas invade there, again, and make it part of Gaza then.
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5cats You know Arabic was spoken pre-islam right. You know Arabic and Hebrew are languages as old as each other? The language before them being Akkadian? Did the Cannanites speak the current language, well yes. You are Severely Uneducated in this topic.
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layla_wilson No group has self-identified as "Cannanites" for thousands of years.

"Palestinians" didn't even exist until the last century. Buy a clue ok?
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insaneai Congratulation's, the first Fool...
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layla_wilson Thanks!  What did I win?  
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insaneai A low IQ
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layla_wilson Wow!  A tranny with a bad Adam's apple shave and a face reminiscent of dog vomit says I have a low IQ.  It MUST be true.
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insaneai Thank you for your kind words. I wonder why you took me saying you have a low IQ so badly? Did I hit a nerve or the nail on the head?(or both)
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layla_wilson You started the name calling, get off your high horse already You really and truly look like a fool yourself, eh?
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5cats I called him a fool. Its funny that such a subtle word can cause someone to get so offended. Although still not as funny as you trying to take the moral high ground. that's hilarious.
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layla_wilson In the description you called us all fools. And you claimed (falsely) he insulted you first. 
Since your entire post is based on lies, it is not a shock you have such difficulty telling (or admitting) the truth.
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5cats But its not based on lies, its based on the first hand experience of an American Journalist in Palestine.

It seems you have difficulty accepting the truth.

Oh and you are a fool if you are commenting without watching the video. which you are, you are just here to troll. Because that's what you do. You're just a sad, pathetic troll.
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layla_wilson I never take internet trolls seriously.  You wanted interaction and you got it.  Don't try assign a reaction to me, I have a very high IQ (152 as of my last test).  Now go back to your bridge where you belong.
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insaneai 
       
Maybe Palestinians should get the fucking memo and get the fuck out of Israeli land. Or they can do what's been going on for thousands of years in that area, kill each other to gain control. Once way or the other, I don't give a shit about the shitty conditions they refuse to leave.

How the fuck is this our problem in the USA?  It isn't. We're allies with Israel, not responsible for them in their local affairs."
  
Wow!  A tranny with a bad Adam's apple shave and a face reminiscent of dog vomit says I have a low IQ.  It MUST be true.

And you call me a troll for simply saying you win "a low IQ"
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layla_wilson Response #2:  In case you didn't get the memo, this site is all about outrageous political commentary and incendiary remarks.  Since my attempts to improve the site by being a positive influence have failed, I figured I'd just join in on the fun.  Maybe Fancylad can talk to Sonny about adding a "sarcasm" or "intentionally inflammatory comment - not to be taken seriously" font to the comment box to clear things up for people like you.
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insaneai  You failed to be a positive influence so you act like a dick? I don't see the logic.
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layla_wilson If you can't beat them, join them.
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layla_wilson You started with "fool".  I figured you wanted to go with personal insults so I obliged you.  Now get over yourself.
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insaneai 
Ya,  layla_wilson likes to think he's intelligent and virtuous but doesn't realize he's just another Internet troll and an asshole just like the rest of us.
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dm2754 Oh I do realize. But I save Trolling and being an Asshole for the Trolls and the Assholes.
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insaneai Read the post, mainly the last wee bit.

Its amazing how someone with a supposed 152 IQ can act so childishly and irrationally 
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layla_wilson You're too easy.  
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layla_wilson Here's my bullshit narrative:  blah blah blah.  So please, watch, listen and if you still feel differently than I do. You are a fool.
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insaneai Finished being a child? Good.

"Now go back to your bridge where you belong"
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Male 1,793
But...but there are WAY more Arabs than there are Jews, so that means it's OK for Jews to use their military might to get what they want, right?

After all, might makes right so long as it's American-enabled might.
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bliznik So all those Arabic and Muslim nations CANNOT ALLOW Israel to exist because... minorities have NO rights? That's your argument here?

And America backs a lot of Muslim and Arabic nations too, so your point is bullshit. More than meaningless: it's actively hate-driven.
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5cats "And America backs a lot of Muslim and Arabic nations too, so your point is bullshit"

America backs Sunni Muslim Regimes - the ones funding ISIS.
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5cats 

Where did I ever write that minorities have no rights? Where did I ever support the idea that Israel cannot be allowed to exist? 

It's almost as if you are imagining arguments that are not there. As if your point is bullshit. More than meaningless. As if your comments here are actively hate-driven.
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bliznik Hamas et al are dedicated to one thing: free Palestine from the Jews.
By Palestine? They mean ALL of Israel, and probably much more, but Israel is the first step.

If there's more Arabs than Jews, what difference does it make? There's more Chinese than any other specific group, but we're not turning the UN over to them are we?

"...so that means it's OK for Jews to use their military might to get what they want, right?" 
I'm meaningless? WTF does this even mean then?

"After all, might makes right so long as it's American-enabled might."
One of the PLO slogans (in sarcastic form). And you've entirely ignored my second point...
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Male 222
Fuck Israel, this is a genocide and Israel doesn't deserve to exist.
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prichards114 At least he's honest about being a Jew-hating anti-Semite. :-)
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5cats What he said is an opinion, he is referring to Israel(state) rather than Jews(Semites) Its not anti-Semitic at all.
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I work with a couple of Palestinians (Christian) from there that came over a long time ago, they were pretty much persecuted from both sides. Their mom and sister are still there, have some pretty horrifying stories.
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