Hawaii Lawmaker, Rep. Beth Fukumoto, Publishes Letter From Racist Trump Supporter

Submitted by: 5cats 3 months ago in News & Politics

The Huffington Post and several other sites made a big fuss over Beth Fukumoto getting a hate letter. Beth was a Republican in Hawaii but resigned in March 2017 and is in the process of switching parties. Here's more about the switch.

Reading the hate letter she received, one wonders: Doesn't this person have a computer? Why is someone in California compelled to write to a minor entity from Hawaii? What's with the 40-year-old-stamps? And what's with the lack of periods? Who writes like that anyway?



It seems that the university Beth attended (and got an English degree) is keen on the grammar. Why? I have no idea. What a coincidence. This hate-mongering Trump supporter and her went to the same university, and so on. Thomas Wictor lists a bunch of reasons why it is yet another fake 'Trump hate crime' carried out by the liberal-left.

But to be fair, Beth wasn't originally claiming it was connected to Charlottesville:



Her response is reported here and also makes no mention of that:

She does say that given the events she's more upset by it, but that hardly makes it connected to Virginia's events.

If real? The letter's writer should face what charges? Is there a threat here? IDK.

If fake? Beth should immediately be removed from office and face charges herself. Or the person who wrote it should at the very least. Getting the police and FBI to waste time and resources on a fake hate-letter is a serious crime, I think we can all agree.
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Male 15,393
Well, I think she's hot.
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Male 41,539
Beth is part of the visible majority in Hawaii, she's not a minority there in any way...
Just pointing this out.
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Male 10,297
5cats She isn't, you're right. Also, asians in hawaii, in general, are not very welcoming to outsiders. In facts books on hawaii recommend that if you are white you don't move into an asian neighborhood if you want friendly neighbors because they won't even talk to you.
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Male 41,539
holygod You have lowered yourself even further, how sad. I didn't think that was even possible, for you to be worse than before, but I suppose I was wrong: you've done it.
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Male 10,297
5cats I'm not sure how you're misfiring this badly. However, I will try to re explain what I thought was pretty clear.

1. You are right she isn't a minority in Hawaii.

2. I have been to hawaii 8 times and am considering moving there for a few years. I have read books on moving to hawaii. They recommend not moving into an Asian neighborhood if you want any sense of community because they won't associate with white people. They won't be rude or mean, they'll just ignore you.
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Male 41,539
holygod I thought you were being sarcastic, I honestly did. Making up those things to mock what I said. Sorry I got it wrong then!

So they are rather like the Japanese? Would make sense because there's a LOT of Japanese influence there eh? Friendly to visitors, not so much to those trying to enter their community...
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Male 10,297
5cats I can see how it would have appeared that way. No worries. Like I said they aren't "mean" they just don't accept outsiders into their community. 
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Male 474
5cats Hawaiian demographics agree. 41.6% are Asians and of those 16.7% identify themselves as Japanese. Only 24.3% identify as white.
By comparison, California demographics show 72.7% are white, 37.7% are non-Hispanic white, and only 14.8% are Asian. 

It's not surprising the hate mail didn't originate from Hawaii.
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Male 41,539
boredhuman Apparently the area the letter came from has a high Japanese/Asian demographic, but IDK it's just from the comments...

That might explain why a genuine 'Trump Supporter' would even KNOW ABOUT the existence of Beth in the first place... that's a big ? in the authenticity of the letter. It could also would suggest it's a fake from a Japanese or Asian-heritage progressive (lots of those in Cali yes? We can agree on that yes?) trying to gin up sympathy and support for her (or even directly associated with her or her staff).

But I thought hate and racism against Asians was so common in Hawaii that she (the deputy leader of her party, keep in mind) had to leave her party? Why is it then logical that someone elsewhere (California) sent it if it's so commonplace there? Did California vote Trump or something? Nope...
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Male 41,539
At the onset there was only a partial image of the stamps and bar-code (picture #2). People pointed out the stamps weren't cancelled (which doesn't necessarily prove it was never mailed, they do miss occasionally!) and the code looked like a company one.
Later pictures showed that wasn't the case. They are cancelled, the code is auto-printed and says it came from California, LA area. This doesn't prove it was 'sent by a Trump supporter' but that it was sent from the area the writer claims to be from.

The extensive use of the uber-feminist -- to replace periods is damning -- This is something Beth and her circle learned at their University -- Why on Earth would an old hate-mongering person (who uses 40 year old stamps!) use that style -- Why would he/she even know it existed -- I put a lot of -- in the description -- but they got edited out --
:-)

This looks exactly like a letter a progressive would write to show what a "Rabid Trump Supporter" would look like if such letters existed. They do indeed exist! No doubt about that, but this one stinks.

That doesn't mean Beth or anyone she knows wrote it: it could be from a random unknown progressive who knows about her switching parties. However? Given the sheer % of these things which have been proven (not just suspected) fakes and hoaxes since 2016 started? If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

Again: I took great pains to show that Beth herself never says the letter is connected to the events in Charlottesville, which several 'disproofs' are based on. Unless there was other things said that I didn't come across (or were stealth-edited out) she never says that.
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Male 5,412
5cats Your claim that the use of the em-dash is somehow modern or "uber-feminist" or exclusive to the university that Beth Fukumoto attended is absurd. During my undergrad years, one of my professor's handouts were always punctuated in this fashion. He was an Episcopal priest and was in his late seventies--meaning he was born around 1910 and attended seminary and then university in the 1920s or 1930s.
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Male 5,412
Huffington Post has just published an update that addresses two of Thomas Wictor's claims (and by extension, 5Cats' claims) that the letter is a hoax. He's full of manure.

  1. HuffPost sent a copy of the envelope in which the letter was received to the USPS, which confirmed that the letter was processed by a USPS facility in California before it arrived in Honolulu.
  2. The barcode on the bottom of the envelope is absolutely not something that is exclusive to commercial mailers, as Wictor states. It's printed by high-speed USPS sorting machines to help automate delivery. I get birthday cards and Christmas cards with these barcodes printed on them every year. I have no idea why Wictor would think they're applied only by the senders and only used for commercial mail. If he'd bothered to look at his own mail, for heaven's sake, he would have recognized this.

I'll add another error I've found to the claims of Wictor. He says the stamps haven't been cancelled. Wrong: On the photo at HuffPost, you can clearly see that the left-most stamp has been cancelled, with a stamp that shows both time and date of processing.

Thomas Wictor strikes me as a bilious, irresponsible jerk. Sadly, it doesn't surprise me that at least one IAB'er is attracted to what he has to say.
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Male 4,092
To me, the grammar is "naturally" bad.  I think it would be somewhat hard for an educated person to make errors in this particular fashion.

If I were going to be silly enough to send hate mail, I for damn sure would use a typewriter OR maybe send it from some random library computer.  I would never use my own stuff PC, that's silly.

If people can go out of there way to find nazi flags and drive hours to march in charlottesville, i think finding an using a typewriter is well within established parameters of hate.

I'm inclined to think it's probably real.
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Male 41,539
daegog Did you even glance at the tweet-chain that offered plenty of evidence it's fake? It's the big pictue one, not the link that says Thomas Wictor  :-/ I had trouble submitting this.
https://twitter.com/ThomasWictor/status/900820256318509056/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.i-am-bored.com%2F2017%2F08%2Fanother-day-another-fake-hate-letter-hoax

Now he does 'go on and on' about the letter coming before the rally, but I took LENGTHS to point out she never actually says that the two are connected, ok? HE's wrong about that one.
But the rest? Some of that has more than a little merit.

What old, racist Trump-lover uses -- rather than periods? A method taught at... the school Beth attended! What a coincidence they both use such a super-modern feminist friendly method eh?
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Male 422
5cats he says the stamps weren't cancelled, and yet, if you look closely, they actually ARE cancelled.  He says the barcode on the bottom of the envelope proves it was sent by a commercial entity, and that the post office would know who sent it by that barcode.  Apparently he believes that only envelopes sent by commercial entities with postage-paid indicia have these bar codes on them, but that is wrong too.  Did he fail to notice the zip + 5 printed to the left of the barcode?  I believe that bar code is a binary version of the zip +5 code, which the sorting machines at the post office use to automatically sort mail for the carriers.  To verify this, I looked at a thank you note I got from my nephew today.  it has a barcode on it.  My nephew is not a business, and he does not maintain a postage-paid indicia.  He hand-wrote the address.  

The dude who is presenting incorrect information as proof that the letter is fake is an idiot.  So too are all the people who believe him.  But then again, it's not all that surprising, they are republican after all.  As the saying goes, birds of a feather flock together.  Even the stupid ones.
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Male 41,539
skeeter01 I explain above: before the full picture was released? The image shown was all people had to work with. At that time Beth's side was refusing to release further info or images (they said it had been 'given to a friend for safekeeping' and later that it was turned over to the FBI), but later on did release one showing the cancelled stamps and full code line.
Ok?
I point out (in comments) that those arguments have indeed been disproven, but that is far from the only evidence in question here, ok?

It is a logical fallacy of the lowest order to think that if some of the arguments are disproven upon further evidence being discovered? Then the entire case is resolved. It is not.

How's the medical stuff going skeeter? Hope you're doing well.
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Male 474
5cats, interesting post. It brings up several issues: 
1. demonstration of racism/xenophobia
2. switching parties
3. fake scandal?

Let's deal with the simplest first
3. Is this fake? - Why would it be - do you really think liberals have nothing better to do than create fake outrage? Fukumoto was forced to deal with this her entire life, i'm sure, but now it's probably more intense and more relevant - so she chose to bring it to the news and it got picked up. 

2. The more interesting story is that a republican feels forced to switch parties because of racism. I don't believe republicans stand for racism, but it's being (wrongly) associated with it lately. America stands for "freedom" - not xenophobia. 

1. Maybe it's a good thing that this racist dirt is visible in the media, so society can focus more on it. Lately USA has focused too much on terrorism from outside and stopped looking at the problems within. Or maybe racism has been blown out of proportion lately and things aren't really that bad overall... 
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Male 41,539
boredhuman 3. Yes. There's been dozens of proven 'progressive' hoaxes this year already. Prominent ones that got attention... until they were disproven; then silence of course.
Many persons of every stripe literally have nothing better to do than to fake an outrage and get attention. 

2. Feels... yes unfounded and proof-less accusations led her to change parties. In spite of her being the deputy leader, she 'felt'  left out or something. 
Hey, she can swap parties if she likes, that's not a biggie. Of course she'll say things like that, true or false, to justify it.

Asians and mixed-Asians are 58% of Hawaii's population... she's in the majority there, she's not a minority.

1. That is EXACTLY what a progressive thinks when they make a hoax up and go public with it. Or others, but lately it has been almost always a liberal-leftist being caught and charged with these crimes of false reporting. Not just the 'unsubstantiated' accusations that have literally zero evidence.
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Male 474
5cats I'm curios what you mean by "proven 'progressive' hoaxes." I don't enjoy playing detective evaluating whether this post is a hoax or not... I'll let others do that. Were these supposed hoaxes checked by snopes, factcheck or politifact? 

Fukumoto doesn't need to prove to YOU or anyone that she experiences racism at her job. The fact that she's not a minority in Hawaii doesn't mean she is not experiencing racism. Now she'll be a lone independent. Good thing she didn't switch to democrats, because it would have created a lot of new problems. 
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Male 41,539
boredhuman The persons who carried out these other hoaxes I mention were charged with a crime by the police for filing false reports. Many were national news as real hate-crimes (usually accusing Trump supporters) but in fact were entirely fabricated. Hate crimes against Trump supporters...

Is that good enough for you? They may have been convicted too but since that sort of thing is never covered as 'news' it is hard to tell. Plea bargains could easily let them off with no record & etc. But the cops thought their stories were so fake it was intentional and thus a crime.

The Dems hold 46 of the 50 seats iirc... yes poor Hawaiian Democrats, they have such a hard time of things!! How do they even survive? She IS switching to the Dems says the various links... it just takes time for some reason, so she's sitting as independent for now.
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Male 474
5cats "Many were national news as real hate-crimes (usually accusing Trump supporters) but in fact were entirely fabricated."

Hoaxes are being created on both sides of the political spectrum - I'm sure some liberal-created hoaxes were reported in the news as fact.

"Is that good enough for you?"
I was looking for links to these cases, so I could get a second opinion from fact checking websites. It's possible the stories weren't big enough, or maybe the fact checking sites are more partisan than they claim... 

In any case, I don't think hoaxes can thrive in today's environment of access to information and fact checking. 

What's happening with the Fukumoto story? - I think the news picked up a story that follows the narrative "racist Trump supporters" and goes with it. Fokumoto is hailed a victim and a hero; HuffPost sells ads; political polarization intensifies...
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Male 41,539
boredhuman Actual, local news outlets reported many of these 'hate crimes' when the police charged the person, it isn't needed to find a theory site: they were debunked by the cops who investigated or the culprit confessed to hoaxing.

The keyword is 'local' as opposed to 'national or international' news outlets. 

The Michigan woman who claimed a man wearing a MAGA hat ripped off her hijab? Yelled at her and stuff on a bus iirc? There was video, she lied, she confessed and was charged. 
That story (and similar ones) made the national news. Not so much the follow-up...

There was an IAB post listing many of the "hate crimes" by Trump supporters leading up to November... 8 of them I think? 4 were charged as hoaxes, 2 were debunked and the other 2 were "unverifiable"... I cannot search with IE so...
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Male 1,832
"Getting the police and FBI to waste time and resources on a fake hate-letter is a serious crime, I think we can all agree."

Almost as bad a crime as accusing a sitting President of wire tappppping.  
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Male 10,297
Are you HONESTLY telling me you find it unlikely that a Trump supporter is racist? Go on Breitbart.com. Pop open a comment section that has anything to do with a black person, muslim, or latino. Then read.

There was a post about LeBron James recently. I counted 70+ racial variations along the lines of "nig", "nig**", "boy", "darkie", "monkey", "ape", "jigaboo", etc.

Can we just fucking please accept the fact that there is rampant racism in this country? It attributed to some of the Obama hate. It attributed to the rise of Trump. Then maybe we can actually address it.

Conservatives who are not racist need to stop making excuses and cut the cancer out of your party. Telling me which party started the KKK 150 years ago, or that keeping confederate statues are just about history, or whatever other ridiculous thing you think minimizes it only makes you complicit in it's spread.
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Male 41,539
holygod Where did I say anything like that? Please be specific.

I said it is unlikely a real Trump supporter wrote this letter for the reasons listed at Wictor's link. I believe the letter is a fake from Fukumoto's circle or from some well-meaning progressive.

I never once claimed 'Trump supporters are never racists' like you spent 4 paragraphs ranting about. I await your apology.
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Male 10,297
5cats Where did I say you did or even directly address you? 
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Male 41,539
holygod I am the OP. An 'open comment' such as yours is universally considered to be directed at the OP of the Post.
Even if not "at me" then who?  WHO said in THIS post that "Trump supporters are never racists"? 
Still waiting.
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541
holygod The problem is all the racist republicans and trump supporters are actually covert agents working for the liberal elite! From my experience Trump supporters are peaceful and calm, its the "leftists" that cause all the mayhem.
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Male 3,794
layla_wilson careful some derps may take your idea and run with it
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Male 91
rumham may take the idea? Much too late for that
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Male 10,297
layla_wilson OH MY GOD! What if there AREN'T any Trump supporters? What if everyone at his rallies and even everyone who voted for him are just liberals trying to impersonate racist idiots to show us how many racist idiots there are in this country but they drastically underestimated how many other liberals were doing the same thing and mistakenly got him elected? 
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holygod I think we've got it figured out here. 

Donald Trump and the republican party are a liberal conspiricy theory, they dont actually exist, they are just "leftists" in disguise!

Wow we are so smart. I mean, we are the smartest smart people, EVER! nobody is as smart as our smarts! NOBODY!!!
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Male 10,297
layla_wilson covfefe for life!
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Male 3,794
holygod should be on a T-Shirt
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