The 13th Dr. Who Is A Woman And A Few Internet Basement Dwelling Virgins Are Furious

Submitted by: fancylad 1 year ago in Entertainment


Everyone else is fine with it. Her name is Jodie Whittaker and this teaser trailer shows lots of promise and has been getting loads of positive feedback, but some critical viewers say that the character "is always a man" and that the BBC "just ruined the character for the sake of political correctness."

Although to be fair, I think there's a certain segment of people who want the casting of a woman in Dr. Who's shoes to cause furor, but that's my opinion. It's pretty hard to find anyone (other than a few anonymous trolls on Twitter) of significance criticizing this casting of a female in a traditionally non-female role. 
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Male 2,127
Apparently, none of you are big enough Dr. Who nerds to know the real problem with this, and it has nothing to do with the Dr. being female. The Dr. was supposed to have 12 regenerations. Period. This was established in the storylines long ago. There was actually a 13th Dr., called "the Inquisitor", who was responsible to prosecuting one of his former regenerations for genocide following his apparent total destruction of the Daleks. This 13th regeneration was a bit over the top (as in a real hard-ass), due to the unnatural forced nature of the 13th regeneration, which was explained as a "special case", reserved for truly heinous crimes committed by a Time Lord. With this in mind, they have already broken canon with a 13th "normal" (as normal as the Dr. can be, at any rate...) Dr., and are now breaking it again by creating a 14th regeneration. With all that said, Tom Baker has my vote for the best Dr. EVER!!!
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Male 925
whosaidwhat During the thirteenth regeneration, did they ever explicitly say what they were doing?  Was it just a single regeneration, or a full set of twelve?  Given that the Doctor is the only one who can release the Time Lords, it would make sense to give him a full set so he has as much time as possible to decide to let them out.

Also, David Tennant is obviously the most superior doctor.
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Male 2,127
muert Yes, they did. The "special" 13th regeneration was supposed to be a special "forced" one-time regeneration, used only at times when a Time Lord had to be put on trial for serious allegations. Why would they give a Time Lord accused of a serious crime a full set of "extra" regenerations?

As to Tennant, I'll have to agree that he is good, but he's not Tom Baker good!
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Male 5,509
whosaidwhat You definitely hit upon something that troubled me, I mean they did write around it by giving him more regenerations for saving Gallifrey but whatever...they had to do something or stop producing.  I guess there is an argument to do that as well.  The only other option would be to recast and reboot the entire series from the beginning.

With all that said, Tom Baker IS the best Doctor EVER!!!  When his voice boomed out at the end of the 50th I was immediately in tears.
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Male 1,062
kalron27 I got to admit, I had a wee tear in the eye when he appeared too.
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Male 5,509
mrteatime Who Knows?  who knows...
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Male 2,127
kalron27 Care for a jelly baby?
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Male 5,509
whosaidwhat Just bought 2 bags last weekend...nom nom nom
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Male 1,838
the problem is that a looney left BBC is probably going to cram all sorts of feminist P.C. Bull into the show now, and ignore the sci fi art.
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6,572
We should have this girl playing the young Han Solo in the new Star Wars prequel. After that she should play Kunta Kinte in the remake of roots. She also has my vote for the next Batman. I can't wait to see her the new Conan the Barbarian.
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Male 417
I hate when this is done, it is so condescending. This is saying we couldn't make a successful show with a woman so we will remake a male role, same if it's done for race, sexual orientation or what ever. It is unnecessary Wonder Woman is just the latest in a long list of proof.
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Male 2,682
Have only watched this show sporadically over the years and can see them changing the main character to a woman seeing that they change the doctor on a regular bases. What I don't like is when they change a traditionally male to a female, Thor comes to mind. If the fems want strong female characters then make them don't just change a male to a female. Selma and Louise was a good start, put screwed it up, by letting them drive off a cliff in the end, that's not a strong character that's a coward, lets not face it or get out of it in some cool way lets just kill our selves, it was such a let down.
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Male 12,905
quite frankly i think it's about time.  The story tellers can regenerate the doctor at any time if it goes bad with one actor.
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Male 1,062
monkwarrior I agree, with a show as flexible as Doctor Who is they can pretty much do what they like.
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6,572
Women in sci-fi stories are exactly what virgins is love
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Male 7,295
I loved this past seasons open episode where he explains the granular theory of time :-)
One massive flaw though in the Extremis episode. They misidentified Pope Joan as Pope Benedict 
(And yes there IS a Depiction ((statue)) of Pope Joan in full pope rainment at the Vatican although The church denies her existence (Plus starting just after her reported rein they started scrotum checking new Popes)
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Male 7,295
Shades of the Charity  parody "Curse of the Fatal Death"
She will discover a few extra settings on the ol' sonic
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Male 6,958
OH NOES! DA PEEE CEEE has come to Dr Who..

The whining is more entertaining than doctor who has been in years lol.
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Male 2,188
Meh. Peter Capaldi was a rather mediocre doctor.

I don't care if the doctor is young or old, male or female, joyful or angry. I just care if the doctor is talented, and if the writing for the episodes is good.

I'll give this one a chance. But she doesn't get any kudos for being young and pretty and female. Michelle Gomez was an awesome "The Master," but I'm not sure how complex Jodie Whittaker can be. 
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Male 7,295
bliznik I liked Peter Capaldi as the doctor, with the almost poetic commentaries

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Female 6,395
I know a LOT of nerdy geeky people, belong to a good number of boards and such and the ONLY complaint that I've seen is that she's too young.
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Male 925
melcervini Young shouldn't be an issue either.  She is about the same age as David Tennant was when he started.  
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Male 2,188
muert 

A lot of people didn't like David Tennant until they saw him act.

Which is why I'm OK being patient.
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Female 6,395
muert exactly, they were few and far between
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Female 9,772
I watched a few episodes of the show, but never really got into Doctor Who. They can do whatever they want with the title character, and my understanding is that the Doctor can look just about anything each time the character gets a new body. Whether the Doctor being a female is a good or bad thing, is up to the cast and crew of the show. I won't make any judgments as it is up to the fans to respond when they finally see watch her on TV or online.
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Meh, it fits in with the way Time Lords regenerate into new bodies. The idiots are the people who say either that they'll stop watching because of this, and that they never watched before but will start now. The new Dr Who looks just as decidedly middle-class as all the ones before, and given the regeneration gimmick, it fits. The character of Dr Who wasn't really based around gender or sexuality, so nothing really changes.

To me, worse is the suggestion to have a gay James Bond. Uh... part of the character itself is that he's a womaniser. You actually have to change the character to shoehorn that in.
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Male 7,295
. Ubarry9a unless you accept the name is assigned with the number
That would also serv to explain how diffrent actors can logically play him
This was seen in the earlier version of Casino Royal (the American counter prt is Code named Jimmy or just Jim Bond)
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Male 925
barry9a (talking about bond here) Unless you buy into the fan theory that all the Bonds are in the same universe, and James Bond is a code name.
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Male 9,992
I'm not a Dr. Who fan, but my daughter is and I've caught a few episodes and we had a discussion over this.

She's not exactly thrilled over a female Dr. Who.  Not because she doesn't think a Time Lord can be female (after all, there have been female Time Lords within the series in bit parts), but she's afraid the only reason THIS one was picked was for PC reasons.

She's hopeful the female TL will be a success, though.

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Male 866
megrendel I don't know that they needed to have a female Doctor, but for me it will really come down to the writing.  I was always a little disappointed they didn't do more with his daughter/clone.  She could have had a spin-off series, etc.  We already had the perfect set-up for a female Doctor Who and they abandoned it.
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Male 21,778
megrendel Your kid sounds ahead of the game.
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Male 925
They could do some really good things with this.  Or /really/ mess it up.

Imagine if her companion was a handsome Joe Everyman who saved her from the predicaments she got herself into.  /bleg

I am hoping for her having David Tennant levels of energy and enthusiasm.  Then a character like Nardole would make a good balancing companion.
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Male 1,634
muert I agree with this the most of all comments so far.  Will have to wait and see HOW they do it before making any judgement.  Of course, I'll need to get caught up first, I am a season or two behind at this point as I got caught up in too many other shows lately.  Guess I'll have to wait and see.
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6,572


It was upsetting enough to see a young doctor
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Male 7,295
dm2754. Not to mention Peter Cushing and that TV movie guy
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820
dm2754 wasn't John Hurt playing the role of Doc #1? So 14 actors, but 13 docs.
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Male 7,295
barry9a The War Doctor, I do not think he was the first, he already had the Tardis at that time William Hartell's doc took it
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6,572
Paul McGann and John Hurt each did only one episode but it still counts
 

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Male 925
barry9a Nope, we was his own doctor "The War Doctor."  He is the one who ended the time wars and stuffed all the Time Lords and Dalaks into the Ark thingy.  Basically, it the doctor is looking for redemption, it is probably The War Doctor's fault.
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6,572
There were two Dr Who spin-off that featured female leads. Both of them failed in the first season.

George Takei said it best when he found out they wanted to make the Sulu character gay. "You can't just change the entire demographics of a character just to be PC. It's an offense to the creator of the character"
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Male 925
dm2754 The doctor is a time traveling, shape shifting being, who occasionally has difficulty telling the ages and genders of other characters.  It has been established for a while now that Time Lords occasionally change gender when regenerating.  This isn't something they are doing abruptly to appear PC, it is something they have been working towards for a long time.
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Male 5,509
dm2754 and here we are agreeing again.  The Takei quote is golden and applies to this situation.
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Male 777
I guess they have to do something to get people to watch. The writing in this past season was awful.
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Male 2,109
I've been watching Dr. Who since it was cardboard robots spray painted silver on PBS.  The Dr. was created in a way to allow re-incarnation and it should be clear to any fan that the Dr. is not human and does not conform to human sensibilities.

I want to see what they do with this.  If they ruin the Dr. with some political statement about feminism then I'll demand the writers be squished by the Tardis.  If they show that a woman works well as the Dr., I'll demand the nay-sayers get squished with a re-usable Tardis.

Let's give this one a chance. 
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Male 5,509
insaneai They kind of already ruined it as this is a PC statement.  But I digress...I'll give it a shot.  My other problem is if they were going a female route, why go with an attractive young blond?  It just doesn't feel right.
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Male 21,778
insaneai I agree with everything you say. I'll be really happy if the change of Doctors isn't even mentioned. If they make a big deal out of it, it'll muddy everything.
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Female 107
There wasn't much of an issue when Deep Space 9, when a major character was an alien "similar" to Doc Who, in that she/he had multiple life spans, but with this one, gender wasn't necessarily implicit, so people who would know Dax later, would have to just deal with the fact that she was once a bunch of he's. No biggy. Poeple were more pissed when they killed her off for reasons of the director being a douche to the actress.
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6,572
@_suzuka how is that in any way the same? character who started as a woman Ended as a woman and has always been a woman on screen. We never seen male Dax
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Male 21,778
@_suzuka Also, hasn't there been at least one female Dr. Who -- Joanna Lumley in 1999? 

People should've know that a woman playing the lead role wasn't beyond the realm of possibilities. 
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Male 5,509
LONG time Doctor Who fan...this is just stupid.  Especially on the heals of The Master making the gender swap, which made much more sense and became an excellent plot point.  This just feels like they are forcing the issue.  "Look everyone, we made The Doctor a woman...are you happy now?  Can we get our ratings back?"

Fuck off PC police...just fuck off.
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kalron27 holy shit I actually agree with you
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Male 21,778
kalron27 Stunt casting, you think? Were ratings slipping? To be honest, I'm a casual viewer so I'm not deep into the show's details. 
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Male 5,509
fancylad Ratings last season were the lowest of any "new" Who.  However, the season might have been the best one IMHO.  What really grinds me is like I said, they just had The Master become a woman and now we go directly into The Doctor becoming one.  Stunt Casting is an excellent term for this.
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