Oregon Becomes First State To Allow Residents To Identify As "Nonbinary" On Their Drivers License

Submitted by: fancylad 2 months ago in News & Politics

Oregon became the first US state to allow residents to identify as "nonbinary" -- neither male nor female -- on their driver licenses and identification cards. The ruling was made this past Thursday by The Oregon Transportation Commission. That means, on July 1, Oregonians can choose "X" for sex Instead of F or M.

Army veteran Jamie Shupe (pictured above) will be the first recipient in a policy change.

Why would trans people rather identify as X than a male or female? Joshua Ferguson, a "non-binary trans and queer filmmaker, writer, activist, artist, with a love for magic," says it's because non-binary people don't identify as male or female -- they sorta just exist as beings.
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Male 17
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Male 257
So they are legitimizing mental disorders, good to know.
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Male 169
I'm a simple man. I believe in what science tells me ...... XX/XY.
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abortabortabort Simple minded indeed

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Male 169
layla_wilson Only if you think the human genome is too simple to be relevant.
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Male 2,621
Only 23 letters left people.  Reserve yours today.
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Male 2,094
Ugh.  it does not matter what you identify as, your sex stays the same. You do not need to wear a dress if you are a female. You can wear a dress and make up if you are male. You can knit if you are male. You can build skyscrapers if you are a female. 
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Male 1,047
Wouldn't it be easier to just change the DL to Sex instead of Gender?  Unless you have an operation, it does not matter what you identify as, your sex stays the same.  Let's not do away with gender, because obviously it is very important.  But to the government, your gender should not matter.  For purposes of the government, paperwork and what restroom you use, sex should be all that matters, IMO.  If businesses think it is profitable, they can put in a third bathroom for people who are uncomfortable using the restroom labelled by SEX not GENDER.
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Male 8,274
waldo863 On my driver's license, it is sex.

And that is a very good suggestion.  The only problem is that is SOLVES the issue, and the last thing they want to do is solve it.  They would rather raise hell. 

Plus, apparently, it already IS 'Sex' on the Oregon License.  Like I said, they don't want to 'solve' anything. They just want controversy.

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Male 1,047
megrendel Now that I look at it, mine too.  So I don't even get what they are upset about.  Sex is a medical term that describes what organs you have.  That does not change unless you have an operation.  Why do we need more than that on official records?  Just accept the fact that medically, you are a Male or a Female, no matter what you feel.  Separate your gender identity from your sex, and understand that in some situations, your sex is all that matters, not your gender.
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Male 2,519
You wanna be called Robert, No problem.
You wanna be called Roberta, No problem.

I try to follow the TRUE golden rule: Mind your own damn business.

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Female 348
that photo for this article is about as ridiculous as oregons new law
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Male 612
I just want to know where we draw the line...  I mean, there's people out there who want to insist on being identified as a cat, donkey, dragon lady etc.  Seriously, how deep does this level of stupid go?
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Female 3,902
cjeffblanchr I self-identify as a non-taxpayer
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Male 569
cjeffblanchr Apparently, we're completely out of chalk.
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Male 3,982
cjeffblanchr I self-identify as a deity. My pronouns are Lord, God, Christ, and Allah. I feel my identity allows me to take money from the church collection plate and refer to everyone as children. 
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Male 3,982
I used to work with a man, lets call him Bob. Bob never felt like a man. He wanted you to be a woman. Bob had an operation and had his penis turned inside out and tis testicles removed. His scrotum was rearranged. Bob changed his name to.. let's say Sarah. None of matters​ because Bob was still a man. He's legally counted as female but deep down he knew that he would never be anything more than what he was so he killed himself. We were all very sad. If anything your gender identity is what you are not what you hope to be. I'm sorry life isn't fair maybe you'll get your wish in the next life. :-( how is any of this different than people who identify as an alien life form?
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dm2754 Gender Identity is the Gender you Identify as. Someone born male who identify's as female is genetically male, but is accepted by wider society as the gender they identify as. Also, "how is any of this different than people who identify as an alien life form?" - You can't be born as an Alien, you can be born either male or female though and regardless of what gender you end up being, both genders start off the same as a fetus Until there is a sudden burst of either Testosterone or Estrogen. This little sudden burst is what starts the development of a penis/testicles or a Clitoris/Ovaries.

Oh and people can be born as a hermaphrodite and have either their vagina or penis removed and grow up as a man or woman depending on what is removed.

" He's legally counted as female but deep down he knew that he would never be anything more than what he was so he killed himself."

What if the decision to come out and become female prevented him from killing himself? and was happy with the decision because it allowed them to present themselves as they feel on the inside and not spend their life living a lie?

Hey, for all i know your sad deep down inside because you're barricaded in the closet. Either that or you're secretly bob.
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Male 257
layla_wilson you can't be born as non-binary.

Do you agree with white people who identify as black?
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Fojos You can be born Androgynous, You can be born a hermaphrodite, You can be born Non-binary.

Michael Jackson. Black person that thought he was white and was accepted as white. Let people be themselves and focus on who you want to be and not focus on what you think others should be. 
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Male 3,982
I just realized this is going to have a lot of unintended consequences. For instance they have to update the entire computer throughout the state. It also becomes a problem for arrests because prisoners need to be sorted by gender.
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Male 898
dm2754 proposed gender assignments:
*Male
*Female
*Humanoid (meatbag is a little too harsh)
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Female 3,902
woodyville06 meat popsicle 
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Male 8,274
melcervini Beat me to it.

But, if you're a Niven fan, the proper term is 'Corpsicle'.
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Male 6,000
melcervini You beat me to it!
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Male 3,982
Sexual preference is not gender.
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Male 2,887
dm2754 Once again...you are not understanding what is being discussed.  This is not Sexual Preference...this is Gender Identification.  Big difference buddy boy.

Why do you people keep getting act of sex confused with how someone chooses to identify themselves?  Are you that horny all of the time? 


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Male 6,000
kalron27 True. But gender identification is also not gender. Identifying yourself as female doesn't make you any less likely to have prostate cancer, for example.
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Male 2,887
broizfam I agree, which is where I differ from this law.  Unless you have transitioned from one sex to another, on your official license it should say what physical sex you are.
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Male 3,982
kalron27 Gender Identification is not real thing. its playing make believe. call you anything you want to but you are still what you are.  he a man and thats it. 

when you get older we explain the birds and the bees to you
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Male 2,887
dm2754 You still don't get it.  Lets explain something to you.

Lana Wachowski as an example.  A man who identified as a woman, Gender Identity.  A man, who transitioned to a woman...who remained married to his (now her) wife, Sexual Preference.

Oh and again, sex, the physical act (or the birds and the bees as you so childishly put it) has nothing to do with any of this.
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Female 3,902
dm2754 were that the case... god help the poor soul that IDs me. ;)
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Male 2,887
melcervini fortunately, it's not :)
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