Not Satisfied With Killing Off Bookstores And Most Record Stores, Amazon Starts In On Your Groceries

Submitted by: fancylad 4 months ago in News & Politics


Amazon buys the pretentious Whole Foods for $13.7 billion. What's Amazon up to? What's Jeff Bezos up to? There's lots of speculation about what he's going to do in the groceries since this is Amazon's first venture into the industry, but you can assume your local grocery store will go the way of your Tower Records and Borders Books.

The talking heads in the above clip are fucking annoying, but they bring up some interesting theories.


There are 28 comments:
Male 8,550
Here's the deal with 'killing off book stores'.  Amazon didn't do it. EVERYONE did it.

I am an avid reader.  Love book stores and used to visit them weekly along with my daughter. BUT, then I went digital.  Got an e-reader and it currently has several hundred books on it.  Need another book?  There's an app for that. (I buy from Barned & Nobels. Have never puchased a book off of Amazon.)  Finish a book sitting on the crapper and need the next on the series? Can buy it in less than 2 minutes and keep on reading.

And the good thing about buying digital books?  They ALWAYS have the book. I'm not limited by what my local store has, nor do I have to drive around town looking for something. 

Now I still go into a store for some things. Cookbooks, hobby books, etc. e-books just don't cut it in those cases.

One drawback: I used to read up to 6 books at a time, but now using the e-reader I limit myself to one. (Though my wife loves that I don't have book laying everywhere)

Complaining that 'Amazon is putting bookstores out of business' is like saying 'Food is putting farriers out of business'.  
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Male 2,694
People vote with their dollars.  My experience with Amazon over the years has been 99.5% positive.  A word to the wise in general though.  People spend more with plastic than they do with cash.  (why do you think McD's and Burger King et. al. began taking plastic)  It is also the reason CC's "give" you cash back and other perks.  They aren't giving the average person anything they haven't already paid for.  CC companies have a much better plan for your money than you do.  Anyhow...I'd steer clear of any device that allows you to voice command a purchase.  It's just the next step in getting you to impulse buy.  I love the tech...but it ain't goin' in my house.
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Male 326
it's a win-win: whole food can be restructured to follow a market-oriented strategy. They have been THE "green" store long enough that they can charge you $5 for a single apple or a shot of cucumber water. They are the reason why when you think "organic" you think "expensive", but have been doing really bad the past few years against new competition (Sprouts, Trader's Joe) and even traditional grocery stores adapting to the green market.
Amazon on the other hand did not only get a hand on grocery products (which Amazon Pantry already tried), they also got 400+ delivery hubs in upper-middle-class areas, where the Amazon Prime members are. They can now handle 24h-delivery for most of their existing customers, free of any logistic charges.
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Male 469
Amazon didn't kill off those stores, customers did.
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Male 9,769
Check out the amazon dash wand. $20 for prime members with a $20 refund, so free. 

You can ask it questions like how many inches are in a mile, or what the weather forecast is. Plus you can tell it what you want to order or scan bar codes and it automatically orders it. Will even tell you jokes.
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Male 4,948
holygod In all seriousness, my impression is that the Dash Wand seems to encourage you to buy things you don't really need and to pay 20% more for them. That's just an impression, however, and I am probably wrong. Have you bought one? Is it good?
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Male 9,769
squrlz4ever It JUST came out. I bought, its free. Seems like it might be a cool technological touchstone. It is neat to be able to ask it questions. Not sure if we'll shop with it. However, I don't know why you think everything is 20% more expensive. I buy pretty much everything other than groceries from amazon and it is almost always cheaper, sometimes by a lot.
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Male 4,152
holygod I buy a lot from Amazon too and if I order first thing in the morning, many times it is there the next day.
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Male 4,948
holygod Keep us posted. It might even make for an interesting article on here. I agree that many things on Amazon are cheaper; not sure about groceries though.

I have pulled back on buying through Amazon because I received a number of counterfeit items through them: a fake Lamy fountain pen, a supposedly French Peugeot pepper mill, a fake Hamilton watch. In each instance, I'm certain the fakes were Chinese knockoffs. I investigated the situation at the time (3 years ago), and it was a consequence of how the Amazon distribution centers work. Items from all different sources are fed through the same gates and you never could be sure what the ultimate source of the product was. I'm not sure if they've addressed that issue or not. I certainly wasn't the only one complaining about it, as the internet was filled with stories similar to mine.

Of course it left a bad taste in my mouth and going forward, I'd ask myself: OK, do I want to buy through Amazon, save 20%, and always wonder if I got a counterfeit product? Or do I want to buy from an authorized dealer that sells ONLY items they receive direct from the manufacturer, pay 20% more, and be certain that I've got the real thing?
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Male 9,769
squrlz4ever I tend to not buy things that I think might be knocked off. Plus I read reviews. I've gotten knockoffs before and they tend to be pretty easy to notice. Amazon's return policy is stellar though, so I don't worry too much.

I do wonder how Amazon gets away with selling so many knockoffs especially of patented stuff. There must be some loophole they utilize.
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Male 4,948
holygod Yes, some items are targeted more than others by the counterfeiters. In particular, they tend to go after things that are smallish in size and that have a name brand that commands a premium price. The fake Peugeot pepper mill was a prime example of this. It was made out of cast and milled aluminum, small, and pricey because of the French provenance. The mill I got turned horribly--and when I checked the teeth on the grinder underneath, it was ridiculous: they were crooked and of uneven size and spacing all the way around the circumference. The box itself, with the French price sticker with price in Euros, was perfect. The mill, too, looked good--until you tried to use it or looked at its underside.
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Male 4,948
holygod O.O IS EEBIL!
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Male 554
Seems pretty obvious really.  They already have the structure in place for same day and next day deliveries.  They just integrate the Whole Foods stores as pickup points that handle fresh foods and they are all set for handling all your food needs.  They already have the Amazon Pantry for handling all the non refrigerated stuff.  This is just the next step.
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Male 941
I'm pretty sure Wal-Mart already destroyed the local grocery stores.  My sister told me about this yesterday and I can't help but wonder what Amazon is going to do with this.  It seems way out of their market, but I'm sure they have a plan.
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Male 39,948
World War III will be fought between Amazon and Walmart for possession of the planet
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Male 1,316
Gerry1of1 with the customer base Walmart has (judging by the pics on the interwebby *shudders*) I hope that war is never fought...
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Male 3,446
Say what you want about Amazon...but they actually treat they employees very well.  The business design and concept was revolutionary and they are capitalism at it's finest.  Blaming them for the death of small, local bookstores is bullshit.  Borders and Barnes and Noble are the ones who undercut the small business bookstores.  Borders destroyed themselves by trying to compete and sell everything under the sun and forgot about their customer base.  I watch our local Borders go from a place you could get local coffee and browse books all day to a Starbucks with videogames, movies, CDs and plastic crap...with a couple of book aisles.  

" but you can assume your local grocery store will go the way of your Tower Records and Borders Books. "...no, Whole Foods, Wegmans and most importantly Walmart have already destroyed local grocery stores, they haven't existed in a long long time.  I'm just happy I live in an area that still have wonderful farmers markets.

This mortar and stone approach will bring jobs back to local areas in the end...good jobs and fair pay with a strong, loyal employer.  I highly doubt Whole Food employees will be fired, rather kept in place to serve the customer better.  Amazon is not stupid.
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Male 1,347
kalron27 I work for the death star. I'm in one of their larger fulfillment centers. We ship out the shit you buy. I pay $8 a week for my insurance. That's medical, dental and vision. It's not crapola insurance but top of the line BC/BS stuff. I get a $.50 a year raise and that jumps to $.75 a year after 18 months with the company. They give 2 shares of stock, about $1k  each at current rates, to everyone  that joins the company with more awards as you stay longer. Yes it's BS work although I work in IT which ain't too bad. I think the Whole Foods folks are in for a big surprise when the Big A moves in and takes them over. I've worked for worse and amazon will make a good thing at Whole Foods better in my opinion.
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Male 4,948
Let's face it. Amazon is going to own everything, including the U.S. government, in a couple decades. You'll wake up in your Amazon bed in your Amazon house, make Amazon coffee in your Amazon coffeemaker, then be driven to your job at Amazon in your self-driving Amazon car. If you get sick, you'll go to your Amazon doctor, who will be paid by an electronic funds transfer from your Amazon bank account. And when the day comes that you die, you'll be buried in your Amazon coffin in the local Amazon cemetery. If you had loved ones, they might come by once in awhile to pay their respects by leaving some Amazon flowers beside your Amazon tombstone.
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Male 1,316
squrlz4ever squrlz4ever on the bright side, they may offer a "drone funeral" where they fly your remains off to the destination of choice and drop you:)

Heads up Fancy - THUD!
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Male 3,446
squrlz4ever with their track record...I'd be OK with this...

But you got it wrong.  Amazon won't be the brand, they will be the distributor.  When you control the distribution, you control everything.

The Spice Must Flow...
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Female 4,438
kalron27 He who controls the spice, controls the universe
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Male 1,316
melcervini as long as it's not the Spice Girls I'm good with it.  They need to stay gone.
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Male 677
squrlz4ever Soo it's gonna be like 

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Male 4,948
fuad119 "The thirst mutilator." Heh heh... forgot about that.
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Male 569
squrlz4ever I'd upvote this more than once, if I could.
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Male 569
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