It Looks Like ATARI Is Back In The Hardware Business

Submitted by: monkwarrior 5 months ago in Tech


They're back with a new console called The Ataribox and it looks familiar, and it will be based on PC technology
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Male 6,627
From what i've heard, this isn't going to be a retro thing, but a whole new PC-based console.  I'd like to see what they can do with it, if anything.
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Male 3,801
What is this, 1999?  Console wars are over.

Well, they better bring it because the market won't support a 4th Game Console.  XBox and PS saw to all other competition and Nintendo does it own thing.  I honestly don't get it, PC gaming and Steam really has drawn a lot of folks away from consoles.  In the end, it's the best choice IMHO.  Hardware exclusives are getting less attention, with the exception of Nintendo, who again does their own thing.  I will say this, love the classic wood design.  However...

PC Master Race FTW!
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Male 15,402
kalron27 4th Console? I didn't realize there were even 3 in existance.
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Male 6,627
kalron27 I agree that PC has the advantage, but over the last 2 years steam has really gone down hill.  Just recently it took away the ability to purchase a game and store it in your inventory to gift later.  Now you have to send it to the person directly, meaning no stocking up on sale games to gift to friends on birthdays, Christmas, etc.  It was the last straw (for me) in a long line of changes they have made to really stunt the experience it once was.  The upcoming sale i plan on spending all the money in my steam account and not re-filling it.

I'm actually eyeing GOG now, and considering future purchases with them.  Either that or going to humble bundle where i can get a key to send.  But the whole thing makes me question if steam is a viable long-term investment any more (i have quite a few games on there so i'm a bit concerned that they might just say "thats it we're ending steam - sorry, thanks for all yoru cash! Good luck rebuilding elsewhere!".  there is literally nothing stopping them from doing that down the road).
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Male 3,801
monkwarrior GOG is where it's at.  Super Sale currently, last days you should get on it.  I agree, Steam is OK nowadays but still a good stronghold for gaming.  But GOG...GOG is the real deal.  You can't go wrong with the company that produced the Witcher series.
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Male 8,198
monkwarrior You know what I recently found?  Origin has a vault game option.  You can pay a yearly fee to access a bunch of origin's old games.  I think it was the best 19.00 I spent.   Access to all of the Mass effect games, Dragon Age etc.
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Male 6,627
normalfreak2 It sounds like a rental, which might be why the price is so low.  But tbh im not a big fan of EA at all, though i really enjoyed the dead space series.
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Male 8,198
kalron27 Very true.  PC is the master race.  You can do all the things you can't do on a console like mod and you don't have to pay for a subscription to play against other people =p  Nintendo has a niche. a fun family niche and it's why I own a switch.
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Male 1,604
normalfreak2 Did you scratch your Switch screen on the dock yet?
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Male 3,801
normalfreak2 I've been eying the Switch.  Have a Wii I still play all the time with family and friends, totally passed on the WiiU though, actually the first Nintendo console I refused to buy.

I just can't get over how Mario Kart is Vertical Split Screen only now, I have to see corners to drive...tried time and time again on a friends but it just pissed me off.

Another example of why PC is the Master Race...Fucking Options!
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Male 3,775
normalfreak2 i dont like playing with other people or modding my games. i want a story i can play through and experience on my own with out a bunch of retarded jackasses fucking around in my personal escape from reality! and i dont want to mod my games, i dont want to fuck with them, i want to play them as the game makers meant it to be played. the people who made the game had a specific story or experience in mind that they wanted to share. you dont add or edit your own scenes to a movie or book. sure fan fiction can be fun, but i want to experience what the people who made game wanted me to experience.
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Male 3,801
robthelurker Tron 2.0 Killer App Mod, Thief 3 Gold Mod, Morrow-blivion Mod...Hell PC mods actually fixed Watch Dogs to it's E3 Demo glory and to some extent No Mans Sky.  These are just examples of how the Moding community brings new life to old games and made newer games better than their own developers were able to produce.

"you dont add or edit your own scenes to a movie or book."

Tell that to George Lucas...
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Male 3,775
kalron27 star wars belonged to george lucas. nobody may have liked it, but he had every right to go back and fuck up his own master piece. i also refuse to acknowledge that crap, i still have all three original versions on dvd! 

i have no interest in playing watch dogs, thought it looked stupid. never heard of tron 2.0 or thief 3. oblivion didnt suck because you couldnt fly like in morrowind, oblivion sucked because it had a terrible story. in morrowind, you were the nereavrine, destined to stop dagoth ur and save tamriel. apparently in oblivion, it was your destiny to stand around and watch sean bean turn into a dragon and save tamriel. i didnt like oblivion because of the story, what kind of mod is going to fix that?
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Male 3,801
robthelurker You are missing the point...Morrow-blivion is a rehaul mod that translates Morrowind to the Oblivion engine, it is glorious. And seriously, never heard of Tron 2.0 or the Thief series?  Regardless, this isn't "tinkering" with others work, like you are suggesting, game devs have always ALWAYS welcomed the moding community because the actually bring something to the table.  Hell, Fallout 4's game engine is basically a fully modded Fallout 3 game and Bethesda freely admitted it.  People who have developed famous mods have been hired by companies to do actual game development, it happens all of the time.

You can keep to your console gaming, that is your choice, but to say the modding community is "Fucking with the game" is a totally incorrect statement.
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Male 3,775
kalron27 "translates Morrowind to the Oblivion engine" okay, im not sure what that means. which game is being "improved" morrowind or oblivion? if things in morrowind are made available in oblivion, like flying, thats fucking awesome because oblivion sucked balls compared morrowind. same thing with fallout 4, i dont care if fallout 4 is a modded version of fallout 3, i would much rather go back and replay fallout 3. but if the morroblivion mod tries to make morrowind more like oblivion, that is just fucking retarded. there was nothing wrong with morrowind, period.

there is a mod to make the dragon alduin in skyrim into macho man randy savage. thats not fucking with the game?

tron 2.0 is a computer game, no i have never heard of it. i may have heard of the thief series, but i know nothing about it and have little interest.
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Male 3,801
robthelurker Good for you, keep your little interest, but don't shit on people's hard work when you obviously don't understand it.  You're not a PC guy, you're a console guy...that's fine.  But you still are not getting it and you should just let it rest.  

FYI...Macho Man Randy Savage Skyrim mod is the fucking shit and was created solely out of humor...comedy.  Sorry you don't see that.
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Male 3,775
kalron27 of course i see that it was out of comedy, that doesnt change the fact that its fucking stupid. most things are only funny because they are fucking stupid, like your face! i dont mean to shit all over mods, im sure i probably did at one point, maybe you take personal offence to me saying mods are fucking with the game, but thats what they are. would you like me to find some nicer wording? ultimately my point is i dont go for mods because i dont like that they try to "improve" or extend on the original content. the original content is what i fell in love with, i dont need anything added or improved.
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Male 8,198
robthelurker i dont want to fuck with them, i want to play them as the game makers meant it to be played. the people who made the game had a specific story or experience in mind that they wanted to share. you dont add or edit your own scenes to a movie or book

Great!  You can do that on a PC just fine.  The other bonus is you don't have to upgrade your gaming console every 5 years.  You can buy a PC and that's it!  Upgrade and repair as needed.  Your gaming console is also your computer and allows  you to have all the benefits with none of the drawbacks.  Very few titles are console specific anymore either! 
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Male 3,775
normalfreak2 how much is it going to cost to get a pc that is capable of running modern console games? how much is it going to cost to upgrade and repair, how often will i need to do it? 500 bucks every 5 years to upgrade my console doesnt seem so bad.
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Male 3,801
robthelurker I have been running the same rig for over 10 years, about a $500 initial investment.  I upgraded my Mobo, processor and RAM 4 years ago for around $250 and last December I upgraded my graphics card for $175.  I'm actually set for a good 5 more years at this point, I can run anything out there at a high to very high setting.  My "high" is higher than PS4 or XBoxOne can perform at.

Plus, I can do everything else I need a computer for, even develop my own game :)
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Male 3,775
kalron27 925 dollars for over a ten year investment that you personally have to upgrade or take somewhere to be upgraded. i would rather just pay the 500 bucks every 5 years. since 2010 when i bought my xbox 360 s, i have never needed to do more than put the disc in, pick up the controller, and play. i dont now what a mobo is and i have no interest in learning. i just want to play the game. im pissed off that i have to get a special screwdriver and a new battery just to fix my pokemon silver. i am a simple person who has no interest in learning how to... computer. i barely know how to submit posts on this website, i am technologically retarded, and personally to me it is not worth learning just to save a few bucks on switching from playing on the console to a pc. also, i dont like the idea of watching porn on the same device i play video games.
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Male 6,627
robthelurker The mods are really for expanding a game you wouldn't have played anymore, for whatever reason.  Or for improving something that the game maker can't fix any longer for whatever reason.  When i was a kid i used to play this game called Uplink, but they have just recently made a really nice mod to that, which not only makes it really pretty, but much more enjoyable to play.
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Male 3,775
monkwarrior when a mod is used to expand a game you wouldnt have played anymore, that seems like fan fiction to me. which can be great, but its not what the people who specifically made the game had in mind, if it was, they wouldve just released it as downloadable content for ten bucks the bastards! like i said it can be great, but i just dont got for that stuff. and its cool that mods can fix the gameplay of an otherwise unplayable game, but then in my opinion, if the actual developers couldnt get it right, it was never meant to exist. its an abomination! its like mods are some kind of mad frankenstein-esque monster! they have grown out of control! soon there will be mods in games that let you throw little children down the wells! oh the humanity!!!! okay look you make some good points, in fact you have made the best points of the three people who replied to me. yeah, just buy a fucking alienware laptop, you gonna buy it for me normalfreak2? and the other guy trying to distract me by tricking me into taking about star wars and elder scrolls (thats totally what happened shut up). everyone here sucks! anyways, i dont go for mods, they distort the original content, and better or for worse the original content is what i fell in love with. it may be better to play goldeneye with a modern controller, but fuck that when i replay goldeneye it is with a nintendo 64 controller or i dont play it at all!
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Male 3,801
robthelurker "it may be better to play goldeneye with a modern controller, but fuck that when i replay goldeneye it is with a nintendo 64 controller or i dont play it at all! "

I think you are confusing Mods with Emulation...big difference.
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Male 3,775
kalron27 i know there is a difference between emulation and modding, im not really sure what it is, but i know there is a difference. and is the difference really that big? youre taking a game and trying to improve on it, whether its by adding things to the game, or just making the game available to play on a pc. because lets face it, emulating games from the past so they can be played on the pc, and not just on their original consoles, is an improvement. i support it so that pc gamers at least get the chance to experience some of the great console games of the past, but i would never use one unless i had pc controller in the shape of the controller for the system the game was made for. you expect me to play sega genesis games on the computer with what? a keyboard? you evil sick mother fucker!
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Male 3,801
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Male 3,775
kalron27 ... im sorry, did you seem to think that i was unaware that these existed or something? it was why i said "i would never use one UNLESS i had pc controller in the shape of the controller for the system the game was made for." that last bit at the end when i called you a sick evil mother fucker was another joke. im trying to keep things light. people dont always understand my sense of humour. see, i was trying to overreact to using a keyboard as a controller, but it seems to have gone straight over your ugly face. sorry, but ive lost my patience and i have no problem belittling strangers on the internet. also, i have no way of knowing you have an ugly face, just like how i had no idea that one guys mom was a dog. i wonder what those guys who replied to my comment said... anyways... im just ranting now. fuck you consoles rule bitch!
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Male 3,801
Damn you are being a pisser today...WTF?  You obviously don't understand the modding community in the PC world.  You are obviously a console guy.  That is fine.  I wasn't "tricking" you by talking about Star Wars, it was an example to counter your statement.

So let me use one specific example that will hopefully help you understand the community and it's importance better.  FreeSpace 2 was an amazing Space Flight Sim from the early 2000's that was lost in the shuffle.  It gained a cult following and it's original devs released the source code to the public. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeSpace_2_Source_Code_Project

Since then, FreeSpace Source has become one of the largest modding communities out there.  While there is total conversions that actually create entirely new games (from Star Wars to Battlestar Galatica) the original as well as Part 1 have been restored and enhanced to play on modern PCs, including HD resolutions and Widescreen.  HD models were painstakingly recreated by the community.  Additional support for both older and newer flight sticks as well as fixes to the initial code that caused crashes.  All of this with the original developers blessing. 

The Tron 2.0 Killer Mod does the same thing, updates the original game go HD, Widescreen and fixes errors to run on modern systems, again with dev blessings.   And as I mentioned above, Bethesda has supported modding for decades...so much so that they are planning to use the community to make profit off of their hard work, which the community is very skeptical of.

https://kotaku.com/skyrim-and-fallout-fans-are-skeptical-of-bethesdas-new-1796028360

Here is some additional reading to help fill you in on why this not something to shit on:

http://www.nexusmods.com/games/?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod_(video_gaming)
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Male 3,775
kalron27 " I wasn't "tricking" you by talking about Star Wars, it was an example to counter your statement." that was a joke, i was hoping most people would be able to follow with that comment in brackets at the end"(thats totally what happened shut up)" almost as if to indicate thats not what actually happened. also, wasnt that the same comment where i went off on a tangent about mods being like frankensteins monster? dude, how much of that comment did you take seriously? im doing my best from restraining myself from calling you names at this point. it hurts. i dont care about freespace 2 or tron 2.0. if it is only for the pc, why should i care? right now i care about return to castle wolfenstein for the xbox. right now i am playing that game on my xbox 360. it is the original content, it is exactly what it was 16 years ago when it was made (oh dear god i feel old). i just googled to quickly check out and see if there were any mods for return to castle wolfenstein. there are. why? why does return to castle wolfenstein need mods? its perfect just the way it is. i am still playing the way it was meant to played 16 years ago and its still amazing. its nice that mods can fix otherwise unplayable pc games, but i am a strong believer in if its not broken dont fix it.
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Male 3,801
robthelurker "im doing my best from restraining myself from calling you names at this point."

Well now, I was just trying to have an intelligent conversation and share some knowledge...but obviously you are not interested and a console troll...so here...

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Male 3,775
kalron27 "but obviously you are not interested and a console troll" kind of yeah, im actually kind of shocked it took you this long to realize. im not really trying to be a troll, but yeah dude this was not an intelligent conversation. this was a stupid debate about consoles and pcs. im not even sure it was a debate. im not sure what to call this. console trolling isnt a bad way of putting it, but thats totally not what i intended. for my personal reasons pc gaming sucks ass, i dont care what your reasons are or what ever, youre right, im not interested. i am not interested in hearing anything you have to say about pc gaming. its not like i didnt think about it asshole, i thought about switching over to the pc, but all in all, i decided it was better for me to stick with consoles. i dont care why you think pcs are better, in my opinion consoles are better for the type of gamer i am. so unless you want to try to have some fun with this pc console trolling and stop taking this seriously, fuck off.
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Male 6,627
robthelurker I will use a mod if i have to.  For example, Betheseda's fallout 3 and skyrim had some major errors.  What the community did was they actually made a patch to fix the errors in both games.  Sadly, Betheseda didn't even try to fix those errors, and it left people with a broken game, quests that couldn't be beaten, or a game that could never be finished.  They didn't even fix the console versions so console users were out of luck, but the PC users could play the game the way it was intended due to the community patch, required from Betheseda's laziness/unwillingness in polishing up the games.
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Male 3,775
monkwarrior "it left people with a broken game, quests that couldn't be beaten, or a game that could never be finished." i never used any mods for skyrim or fallout 3. i have all the achievements for fallout 3 and almost all the ones for skyrim (im just missing the werewolf and vampire ones, because fuck those, and a few others probably). i didnt just beat those games, i dominated them (as well as morrowind multiple times cause its my fav, fallout 4, and even oblivion, oblivion was the first game i got all the achievements for, even though i think its the worst bethesda game). yes, there were plenty of glitches along the way, but you play through them. i treaded through all those glitches like a man crawling under barbed wire, and you pc gamers just cut the wire like a snarky tony stark. joking aside yes patches to help glitches like the ones notoriously found in bethesda games are awesome, and you should get them where ever you can, but i dont have a problem playing through the glitches. i have yet to experience a glitch for myself that fucked up my game to the point where i said fuck it and stopped playing.
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Male 6,627
robthelurker Then you got lucky.  I ran into a number of bugs listed here: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Bugs_(Skyrim)
while playing on the console.  It upset me because i could never complete it the way i wanted to, with some quests never disappearing from my quest list and not being able to be completed.  I bought the legendary edition for the same console thinking they fixed the bugs, only to find they didn't.  Last year i bought skyrim on steam (3rd purchase) and finally used the community patch, and then beat the game with all except for 1 (get all the deadric items).  I may go back some day to get that last one
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Male 3,775
monkwarrior HA! collecting the deadric artifacts is actually one of my favourite things to do. i also bought the legendary edition, and got way too many achievements again... but when i got that achievement it was like a platinum or diamond achievement because less than ten percent of the gamers hadnt got that achievement yet, i felt so proud. ok my friend, i understand how infuriating it is to still have missions in your active quest missions list, let me tell you about a game called star wars knights of the old republic. ok screw that long story short at the end of that game i had the same problem. it was a stupid side quest that i beat, but it wouldnt go away in missions screen. i understand man, i understand. it destroyed me. at the end of the game, i had beaten everything except for one quest that i had technically beaten. FUCK YOU GIZKA!! I GOT YOU THE FUCK OFF MY SHIP NOW GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY MISSION SCREEN SO I CAN FEEL LIKE I BEAT THE WHOLE GAME!!!!! but look man, that shit is technical, you cant let it get to you. i have right now on my legendary edition several small side quests that i know i have beaten, but there is still a little notice saying return this book to this dude. FUCK YOU I DID YOU FUCKING PIECE OF MOTHER FUCKER ILL KILL YOU I WILL SNAP THE FUCKING DISC IN HALF!!! anyways, its like ocd man. its an obsession to have that missions screen cleared. i understand it, but sometimes you gotta let that shit go. i like to think its helped me let go of things in real life. i cant give you any examples, i just like to think its helped me.
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Male 6,627
robthelurker I still have a problem with 'mother'.  i keep doing quests for her over and over, at least 50 quests.  I think it's a bug, but every time i finish a quest it says go back and visit mother.  so i do and as soon as i talk to her she says "yet another child has prayed to their mother", and its like i'm looping some of these quests as i've killed a number of people multiple times.  and they get reset when i talk to 'mother'.  I even had 1 quest where i had to kill a guy chopping wood, and when i went back i got the exact same quest again, the guy was alive and well again chopping wood.

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Male 3,775
monkwarrior a guy had the exact same problem on gamefaqs.com 'when do the night mother contracts end?' its an endless loop, the game just generates someone new for you to kill. is there a mod to fix the game stopping people from regenerating and just ending the quest? probably, i mean its probably not even hard to mod, but i know nothing about that sort of thing. to be honest i think i had the same problem with either the same quest or a similar quest, some one mentioned the thieves guild on gamefaqs. cant really remember because the game first came out in 2011. its just one of those things you have to let go. i dont like it, but with as glitchy as bethesda games are, i was just kind of like what ever. when it comes to some games, especially rpg games, there are just some times you have to let that last quest go. i cannot describe the rage within when it happens to me, but its just a technicality, its just a game, there was more fun to be had experiencing the game than finishing that one last quest. however, if there were a quest that i couldnt complete in any batman arkham game, i would straight up lose my shit and plot the destruction of planet earth. i live in constant fear that one day i might wake up with all my money gone and a brand new ps4, vr headset and batman arkham vr.
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Male 3,801
monkwarrior see my comment above.  BTW, GOG is all about including mods into older games to get them running on new systems.  They are especially good with DosBox for super old games.
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Male 6,627
kalron27 Yeah part of the reason i've been eyeing GOG is because they have 0 DRM, and they actually have done a good job on some games that are broken on steam.  I also like that you don't need to install a client to play, and you can likely back-up the install file to a drive and install it again later, all without having to sign in to GOG, and that's something you can't easily do with steam.
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Male 3,801
monkwarrior DRM free is great.  Galaxy is actually non-intrusive and a decent client.  I discovered recently it is good to install larger modern games, better than downloading multiple installer files.  In addition, it does cloud backup for all game saves including DosBox now.  But yes, the option to install without a client is a wonderful thing.
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Male 3,822
im not sure how it look familiar but. hell i wish sega would come back i loved the dreamcast so many badass games that were fun, not interactive movies like games are trying to be
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Male 3,801
rumham Dreamcast was a wonderful swan song for Sega.  I was definitely a SNES fan over Genesis, but the Dreamcast was something special.
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Male 8,198
rumham Sega is never coming back, IIRC they were bought out by Nintendo?
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Male 364
"Their back" ?
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Male 4,390
Cool
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Male 4,191
How much money did they pay an advertising team to come up with the name "Ataribox"


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