Trump Told Former FBI Director James Comey To Drop The Michael Flynn Investigation

Submitted by: fancylad 5 months ago in News & Politics


The New York Times is reporting that Trump asked the recently ousted FBI Director James Comey to drop the Michael Flynn investigation a while back -- back before Flynn was fired himself.

According to the Comey's memo immediately after a February 14 meeting with Trump, the POTUS told Comey, "I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go."

Comey's memo was part of a paper trail documenting what he saw as Trump running interference on the investigation.

That right there is what they call "Obstruction of Justice."
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Male 3,447
I just heard a fantastic interview with John Nagl who worked closely with H.R. McMaster.  In the interview it truly sound like he was almost in tears.  He basically said that McMaster's is the only person in Trump's office that has any kind of good character and Trump is abusing that character to cover up this breach of National Security, he feels that Trump is tarnishing a good man's integrity by forcing him into this position where his job is to somehow defend these actions, yet McMaster is a man that is more concerned with National Security over any president.  Nagl says that he hopes it will be McMaster's integrity in the end that will hopefully bring down the charade of a presidency.  He also is predicting that McMaster's will get fired soon, probably because he finally tells Trump NO.

The cards are indeed crumbling.
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Male 1,687
kalron27  Yes lets listen to some one else not there and only making a personal statement on what he believes, let McMaster speak for himself and he did along with two other people that were there and the only bad thing so far is the leaking of info that now may compromise our relationship with another government. Damage to the person that found out about the laptop problems and reported it to the Israeli's was only theoretical  but now everyone knows exactly were the info came from. And who's fault is that, not Trumps.
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Male 4,153
kalron27 Eh, I still think a lot of this is nothing more than plain old anal-bleeding butthurt revenge over being so wrong. Lets reminisce about the night it really started - election night on MSNBC:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut0TaegQ-kw
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Male 3,447
trimble Sorry, but John Nagl is not a butthurt anal-bleeding libratard.
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Male 7,943
trimble 

Here is how it works: Rather than defend President Trump’s specific actions, his conservative champions change the subject to (1) the biased “fake news” media, (2) over-the-top liberals, (3) hypocrites on the left, (4) anyone else victimizing Mr. Trump or his supporters and (5) whataboutism, as in “What about Obama?” “What about Clinton?”

For the anti-anti-Trump pundit, whatever the allegation against Mr. Trump, whatever his blunders or foibles, the other side is always worse.

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Male 40,772
normalfreak2 You keep repeating these lies, but they are still lies.
We have addressed all the questions and accusations directly and completely. And some IAB members now say that MERELY DEFENDING against these false accusations is proof Trump is guilty...
You people have lost you collective minds.
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Male 7,943
5cats You haven't addressed any of the questions and accusations directly or completely.  What are you talking about?
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Male 40,772
normalfreak2 I did in another place, this or another thread, I don't care to look for it, because I already said it. You should have read it if you cared.

Ask a single, specific question and I'll briefly re-state my answer.

And I notice that you have, once more, demanded answers without offering a single, solitary answer yourself. Just change the subject... again and again.
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Male 4,153
normalfreak2 I think you have it, now add it works for the other side the exact same way and you have US politics.
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Male 7,943
trimble Disagree that it's a 1 to 1 direct comparison.  In general though yes.

Let's be honest, the Democrats don't do the exact same thing.  They have similarities no doubt but Conservatives are on a whole other level.  
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Male 1,416
no WONDER he fired that dick comey
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Male 4,153
Man our news is good in this country. Every day they uncover a new "biggest scandal in American history".
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Male 341
This is going to be good!  Comey is a master at foiling evil doers. Trump seriously underestimated his skill and devotion to the safety of the country.
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Male 2,694
Might as well rename this site...all Trump hate all the time.  I'll say it again.  Trump could cure cancer and some of you would complain about all the out of work oncologists.   
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Male 6,077
dromed It's far more likely that he'll allow insurance companies to refuse coverage by saying that all cancers are pre-existing conditions since they typically take at least a few years to become evident.
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broizfam Honestly, this should be upvoted
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Male 3,497
dromed If Trump cured cancer, he would charge so much, none of us could afford the treatment..

Stop pretending trump is something that he isn't.  The man is demonstrably vile.  
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Male 1,138
daegog Many things he does, but not every little thing.  Obstruction of justice?  The president has the power to pardon whoever the fuck he wants.  Asking to stop an investigation or pardoning him after the fact, what's the difference?  He got elected and this is something he's allowed to do, why make a big deal out of it?  Doesn't mean I like it, or agree with it, but let's not try to make it something it is not either.  It's not an obstruction of justice and it's not the most evil vile thing in the world.  It's basically a pardon in advance.
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Male 4,953
waldo863 There are some key differences between obstruction of justice and a pardon that I don't think you're considering.

In the case of a pardon, a president (or governor) is forgiving a crime that has already been investigated, adjudicated on, and punished. The crime has been played out in the legal system and, one hopes, a fair outcome was arrived at. Knowing the full scope of what occurred, an executive has chosen to forgive that crime, for whatever reason. Pardons, are of course, legal actions; they are a statutory version of mercy and forgiveness, if you will.

Obstruction of justice, however, is a crime and for good reason. It is an attempt to prevent the scope of a criminal act from ever being known. It's not the same thing as "a pardon in advance" because if the legal system has not had the opportunity to fully investigate and judge the criminal activity, society may never understand what occurred or how serious it was. And unlike a pardon, an obstruction of justice can conceal ongoing related crimes or even enable future ones.

Add to this difference the fact that President Trump may have been obstructing an investigation that could implicate himself or close associates of his--as opposed to a pardon, where the executive is not involved in the crime that was committed--and the situation becomes still more serious.
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Male 2,694
daegog I'm not pretending anything...it's you people who can't stop talking about him.
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Male 3,213
dromed 
Trump couldn't cure bacon, much less cancer.
He earns the hate.
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Male 6,158
captkangaroo Great statement
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Male 1,018
dromed Need a safe space, snowflake?
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Male 2,694
marsii Oh hardly lefty marsii.  Feel free to shit in your own house and wallow in it.  I'll just be watching my step.
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Male 3,425
dromed trumpys have such a victim mentality. i thought that was only a libtard trait
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Male 2,694
rumham I dunno ...I'm not a "trumpy".  I don't really like the guy nor did I vote for him.  I've just noticed that since the election here and everywhere is all trump hate all the time.  You'd think people might have something better to do ...like live a life.  I survived Obama. I'll survive Trump.  I mean is it just me or does the president really effect your life that much?
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Male 3,425
dromed trumpy
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Male 3,425
dromed i hated trump long before he ever ran for elected office.. he was always kind of a joke wasnt he? shit didnt even johnny carson make fun of him. and for christs sake you "survived obama" well arent you a warrior wow yeah those were the hardest of times
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Male 1,018
dromed He's a crook even if you are a straight white Christian male with only straight white Christian male friends. Imagine if you weren't!
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Male 2,694
marsii Huh?  Try again using coherent English.
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Male 1,018
dromed Oh, right, "not" a Trump supporter. Gotcha. Here ya go:

шенник, даже если вы - прямой белый христианский самец только с прямыми друзьями-христианками-христианами. Представьте, если бы вы не были!



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Male 2,694
marsii Whatever dude.   Have a nice day or froth at the mouth or whatever floats your boat.  
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Male 1,018
dromed You too.
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Male 7,943
I'm sick of all the winning.
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Male 3,497
Why do people keep talking about impeachment?

Congress would have to impeach him and Congress is filled with republican goons that wouldn't dare impeach him, Trump is basically untouchable.  I cannot realistically envision a crime that would force congress to impeach him.

He has 4 years to rob the US blind, enhancing his family's wealth and we deserve it 100%
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Male 1,416
daegog well there is john McCain, he's not a Republican!
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Male 6,077
Again, despite my dislike for Trump I don't see this as a big issue in and of itself. He made a request. No apparent demand, no apparent threat, just a request. Sounds fairly reasonable.
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Male 1,018
Going to have enough to impeach soon.
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Female 172
marsii I wouldn't be surprised if a transitioning team for Pence is quietly forming right now.  Trump is pissing way too many people off even for Rep standards.  
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Male 40,772
That right there is called doing his job.
You think Obama didn't have his say in various investigations and such? There's plenty of evidence he did, he came right out and made dozens of public comments about ongoing cases. Don't recall anyone screaming for impeachment tho, not even a Republican, I wonder why not? Oh yeah! Because it's his JOB! Both Obama and Trump.

And all of a sudden, Comey remembers something from February? Oh and it was irrelevant anyhow since Trump fired Flynn, which was done for exactly the same reason as Trump firing Comey: it's the President's JOB! You don't meet HIS expectations? You're fired!
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5cats Honest questions as I am curious and I honestly don't want anyone to take what you say out of context or spin it against you as that is a dick move.

What would it take for you to lose your loyalty to Trump? how badly would he have to fuck up/change for you to go against him? Are you able to give any specific examples?
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Male 40,772
thenedman If he stopped following up on his promises, which he largely has kept,. although the MSM will NEVER tell you that! If he swung over to the Democrat side. If he actually did something rotten, rather than being FALSELY accused of such things?
That would likely do it.

So remember: what the MSM tells you (it's a scandal! It's illegal! It never happened before) has ALL BEEN LIES thus far. Follow the facts and Trump has been doing a good job, not perfect of course.
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Male 316
5cats Ok first thing this is a straight question please don't bring in other factors/statements (e.g has ALL BEEN LIES thus far) to try and convince whoever is reading this one way or another, this is about where the line is with you not about how you feel about the political climate. 

So moving on are you able to give any examples of what you would consider rotten enough (e.g political, personal, sexual)/ what evidence would be required to prove it to you?


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Male 40,772
thenedman Any of the rotten or illegal things Obama or Hillary did, those would do it. Must be 20 or 30 of them... just this past 8 years I mean. Hillary has about 30 more before that, Obama a dozen more maybe?
The same evidence that I found to support the truth about Obama and Hillary's illegal or immoral acts? I apply it to Trump, Bush and all the rest as well. I'm extremely consistent. What changes is the MSM "coverage" of these things, a 180 degree turn, usually.
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Male 4,953
5cats Since when is obstruction of justice "doing his job"? Well, I suppose if you consider the former head of the KGB to be an ally--as you aver--then yes, obstructing justice might be considered doing one's job. How about money laundering? If Trump and associates are found to have been laundering dirty Russian money, would that, too, be doing his job? Yes, I suppose it would, huh?

Oh, look: A Western Union telegram just arrived! It's for you. It reads: 

YOU'RE A KNUCKLEHEAD STOP
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Male 3,425
oh snap
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Male 40,772
squrlz4ever Where's the illegal thing Flynn did? Show me or fucking shut up.

He met with a Russian Envoy (iirc) at a group seminar with 100 other Americans present which was arranged by Obama's Office.
He met with a Russian for business, once, and no one has shown anything but business was discussed.

He was fired because Trump and another fellow (I forget who) had lost confidence in him for not telling them these things. Trump did the right thing, and you lib-tards are still not happy.
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Male 4,953
5cats You don't seem to understand what an obstruction of justice is. Obstruction of justice is the attempted interference in the investigation of a possible criminal act. You seem to think that an illegal act has to be proven in order for obstruction of justice to occur. That's not how it works.

And watch that foul mouth of yours. Minors frequent this site and you're making adults look bad.
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Male 40,772
squrlz4ever Not proven, fucking idiot, but what ALLEGED illegal act was there? All of his contacts with 'Russians' were known (fully disclosed) except 2... one being a public meeting along with 100 other Americans in the room.
So what exactly was being investigated? That's what I ask.

The reports say his name came up because a Russian was wiretapped and that is not only not a crime, identities used to be protected until Obama changed the rules after Hillary lost the election...

You have NO business talking to me about manners, you lying pile of shit. Are you going to tell others to file false police reports, again, because I swore at you? Fuck off and play with your nuts already.

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Male 4,953
5cats What's being investigated regarding Michael Flynn? I'm not sure, but there's an awful lot of smoke swirling around him. Why don't you ask Flynn's lawyer since he's stated that Flynn "certainly has a story to tell" and is seeking immunity from prosecution for his client?

I have every business to tell you to watch your foul mouth. This is a public forum.

Lastly, I never told anyone to file false police reports about you. I did once wistfully exclaim that "someone should contact the RCMP" about you because I found it alarming that someone with pedophilic yearnings, as evidenced by your "catgirl" fetish, was working with small children in a daycare center.

Since then, if I am to believe your statements, you've said you no longer work with small children. To which I say, Thank God.
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Male 40,772
squrlz4ever Everyone has a story to tell, so?

The shit you did to me? And you claim I have to watch my mouth? Fuck you. Here's a simple solution: don't read my comments. I try very hard to NOT read a word you say, since all you ever do is shit on others.

Yes, you fucking did. I have the evidence so even if you edited those comments? Too late. And then... YOU ADMIT DOING IT! In fact you said that several times, but ONE TIME is too many, it's a crime.

Since then, you've gone back on your meds but are still a fucking asshole, so go fuck yourself. CONTINUING to attack me based ENTIRELY on your own FANTASIES? Fuck you.
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Male 569
squrlz4ever LOL STOP YOU OWE ME A NEW KEYBOARD STOP
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Male 1,746
I don't think anyone is arguing that Trump isn't doing his job.

I think people are arguing that he isn't doing his job well, and that he has blatant, selfish, corrupt ulterior motives when he does his job. At least other lawmakers hide their corruption behind a veil of secrecy, which limits the damage that they can do. Blatant corruption compounds the damage that Trump can inflict on the world as he does his job.
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Male 40,772
bliznik Um, no? What post are you reading? The theme of the latest wave of (fake) hate is that Trump broke the law somehow. No evidence, proof or facts to back it up, of course! Just the accusation and they scream for impeachment. In fact the DNC has called for impeachment since... early November!

(begin sarc) So for the DNC to accuse him so often of so many bad things? One of them MUST BE true, right? They would never lie to America about it, or cry wolf dozens of times, right? (end sarc)
Liberal Logic!
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Male 1,347
5cats Liberals don need no stinkin' proof!
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Male 3,425
5cats trump logic is.. MSM-FAKE NEWS EVERYONE IS OUT TO GET ME 
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5cats Holy shit. The cognitive dissonance with you is off the charts insane. Contrary to what you said above, the president DOES NOT decide or have any say into any investigation. That's the most ridiculous statement out of all the crap you just regurgitated. Comparing Obama to Trump. Sad. Low energy.

LOL. Trump and his staff had knowledge that Flynn was compromised by the Russians and hired him anyway, then waited until it became public. Then, Trump had to be told to stop communicating with Flynn after he was fired.

Your boy is on a sinking ship, and there's no way to patch up the holes anymore.
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Male 40,772
pleasestop So present the following:
1. The illegal thing Flynn did that warrants an investigation.
2. This alleged memo.

My boat is full of win. Your MSM has done nothing but tell lies and report fakenews. Has ONE of these 'scandals' proven to be truthful yet? None that I recall (except the grab them one, end even then they had to edit it to make it look worse than it was...) have.
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Male 3,425
5cats oh and you are never wrong..
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Male 3,425
5cats your boat is full of ted nuget and scott baio romance is in the air
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Male 1,138
pleasestop They may not have say in the actual investigation, but correct me if I am wrong here, once someone is charged with something, the president can grant them a pardon.  So, why bother wasting time on an investigation if they are just gonna get a presidential pardon after the fact anyway?
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Male 3,447
pleasestop I like that you used cognitive dissonance...because that is what it truly is.  5cats das be danya comrade
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Male 40,772
kalron27 What illegal thing is Flynn accused of that requires "investigating"?

Remember: the ONLY reason he's associated with Russia (other than that public meeting with 100 others in the room) is a wiretap where he legally talked business with a Russian under surveillance. IF there were anything illegal he would have been charged back then! Correct?
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Male 3,425
5cats saying the same shit over and over doesnt make it magically real.
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