The BBC Says There Are Diseases Hidden In Ice, And They Are Waking Up

Submitted by: fancylad 6 months ago in Science

I'm no scientist, but I can see how this makes sense: "Long-dormant bacteria and viruses, trapped in ice and permafrost for centuries, are reviving as Earth's climate warms."

From the BBC: Climate change is melting permafrost soils that have been frozen for thousands of years, and as the soils melt they are releasing ancient viruses and bacteria that, having lain dormant, are springing back to life.
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Male 1,472
Ho, Gojira
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Male 4,281
Are they good viruses and bacteria or bad viruses and bacteria?
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Male 1,472
trimble ...are you a good witch, or a bad witch?
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Male 4,281
spanz Warlock, Some would say good, some would say bad.
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Male 401
Humanity is Mother Earth's virus, and she's starting to release her antibodies.
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Male 8,716
skeeter01 I hear this all the time...and yet the people I here it from never volunteer to self-medicate....
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Male 401
megrendel well, let's hope they are the first to be eradicated, and that those people you hear this from are very few in number.  I know that myself and my family do our part.  The same is true for the people I know who are concerned about climate change/AGW.  But even collectively, we're less than a drop in the ocean.  

I think the problem is that there are too many people drinking the "it's not real", "it's a hoax", "it's not a problem" Kool aid.  The trouble is that until everyone accepts that it IS real, and that it IS a problem, nothing of any substance will happen.  Sadly, I think that it will take something very serious - such as a new disease thawing from the ice and becoming a pandemic - before those Kool aid drinking minds change.  And by then, it may be too late.  

As a side note, I find it interesting that many people who insist on seeing proof of the overwhelming scientific evidence before they are willing to accept AGW as fact, are more than willing to believe in an invisible, all-powerful being who created the universe and all things in it.  
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Male 15,343
When the shit hits the fan, go to Singapore. It's a no nonsense police state and they'll do whatever is necessary to control it. Likewise Israel, North Korea, or any place where they have a constant state of combat readiness.
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Male 6,202
Draculya Why would you throw shit at your fan?
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Male 6,202
Draculya Why would you throw shit at your fan?
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Male 1,891
While everyone is screaming about climate change, has anyone thought that maybe it has just taken this long to get back to normal after the last asteroid that caused a mini ice age?  With the new tablet discovery and all, I wanna know.
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insaneai Indeed, good point/question. There are many other naturally occurring phenomena to be considered, plenty of C02 release in nature, changing of the Earth and Suns magnetic fields among them. More emphasis on preparing than preventing (something we probably cannot do anyway) would be wise I think.  That’s not to say we should not try our best to balance our existence with nature as much as possible but we are major consumers/waste producers. And there are more and more of us all the time.

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trimble I fully support being a good steward of the planet.  I have my issues with the "science" and science of global warming and the conclusions made in regards to the level of human influence.

I have a basic understanding of greenhouse gasses, fluctuation of the earth's magnetic field, fluctuations in the activity of the sun, some geological processes and many other variables that affect our climate.  Most of this is from repeatedly watching science and nature documentaries at night to relax.

While watching these videos (BBC, NASA, PBS, NOVA, etc.) the only thing I am convinced of is the fact that the climate is changing and that we have not yet come to a consensus on the cause or what to do about it.

My original comment was only half serious.  Since you responded with an intelligent comment, I felt I had to respond in kind.  My points in this response are fully serious and only scratch the surface of what I think on the subject. 
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Male 4,099
insaneai and trimble

Your doubts are not unfounded. As I'm sure you know the temperature has fluctuated greatly within the Holocene. This is a graph of the temperature data from the 10,019 foot GISP2 ice core extracted from Summit, Greenland, in 1993. It is the deepest and most ideal ice core in the northern hemisphere and is one of the longest and most accurate temperature reconstructions of the Holocene available. The data from the ice core becomes unreliable after the year 1855 because it takes years for snow to be compacted into the quality of ice that can be reliably studied. For this reason, a red dotted line has been added afterward to represent the continued warming from that point to now. 


As you can see, today we are right around the same level as the medieval warming period yet there are several points where temperature actually exceeded today's climate such as the Mid-Holocene, Roman, and Minoan warming periods.

This data has been verified several times by other means such as dust and pollen mapping, sediment cores, coral beds, insect records, tree ring data, and even written records from ancient civilizations.

https://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v361/n6411/abs/361432a0.html

http://science.sciencemag.org/content/266/5191/1680

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/95RG00498/abstract

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/1999JD901093/pdf

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0033589485710794


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Male 5,214
richanddead I cannot believe you are still peddling this misleading crap, R&D. There is no other way to describe it.
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Male 1,593
squrlz4ever How is that misleading? 
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Male 4,281
insaneai Yep, I understand completely, and concur.
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Male 3,627
these so called scientists are trying to make america not great
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Male 52
rumham - so called scientists? Is that like so-called judges (you know the kind, very well educated and highly respected in their respective fields?

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Male 3,627
bil128 zing sarcasm right over your head
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Male 341

This guy and the the Thing could get loose again if things warm up at the poles.







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Male 8,716
mentott510 I liked both Things, but the old one will always be my favorite.:

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