The Trump Women Are Having Their Way With Traditional White House Protocol

Submitted by: fancylad 2 months ago in News & Politics

The wife's costing taxpayers millions just to avoid her husband, while the other is taking an office down the hall from daddy. WTF?

When did it become OK to be the President of the United States, and just call the shots in the White House while throwing ethics, financial judgement, and the perception of what other people think of you out the window?

Trump and his immediate family view the US Presidency as a of royalty, much like Britain's monarchy of old, where the commoners' tax dollars go to keeping the royal family in first class accommodations along with everything else that lifestyle goes with.

We already know about how much of a financial burden it is for taxpayers to keep Melania Trump in a separate residence from Donald. One can argue that Melania living away from the White House isn't that big of a deal, and it isn't, but it becomes a big deal with she decides to live in a skyscraper in the center of Manhattan. The security detail involved in overseeing a building the size of Trump Tower and its surroundings cost so much money, Trump wouldn't have to make $18m education cuts if Melania just lived in White House

And then we have Ivanka who seems like a nice enough person, but who has no social mores when it comes to relating with anyone out of her tax bracket. The fact that she's accompanying the President of the United States to official high-ranking meetings with heads of country and state are positively scary.

So it's no surprise then that Ivanka will be taking an office in the fucking White House and security clearance, even though she said she'd not be taking a role in daddy's work. 
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Male 37,683
And In More Breaking, Really Factual News:


There is no fake news from the MSM, only verified, certified, professional journalistic truth!
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Male 1,207
I love this picture of Trump with his wife and side chick.
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Male 3,393
Jealously is your strong suit fancy.
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Male 276
Last time I checked, this was i-am-bored.
It was not I-want-to-read-everything-ever-posted-about-donald-trump.

Fancylad, There are thousands of news sites posting this shit - go back to basics, post stuff people might have been otherwise missed. Or something that entertains (the point of a site called "I am bored" is to un-bored).

If you are trying to become a donald trump only news site that caters for the 250 Million people in America, let us know. Then the potential 6.75 Billion people that do not care can move on to another site.
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Male 3,147
stifler Why not fuck off somewhere else then instead of expecting a website with thousands of regular visitors to bend to your wishes?   Or... have you thought about setting your own website up maybe?   Let me know how that goes for you.
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Male 738
stifler Tough nuts. Happened with the last president. Should've been around for that. 
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Male 3,393
stifler Wrong. Since the election this has been I-Am-Butthurt. For a brief time it looked like it was going to go back to the fun site it used to be but the butthurt is strong with this one.
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Male 5,179
trimble Hey I try, Ive submitted several non trump threads and none have been posted yet
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Male 3,393
thezigrat I hear ya zig, that's why I quit posting. The only things getting posted were either about Trump or things that were certain to start a fight between HG and cats.
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Male 2,399
trimble
The turd sandwich lost, yes, but the giant douche didn't change just because he won. Now we get to hear about your new president.

#Thanks Obama? :P
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Male 642
stifler I like the fact that he keeps us updated... There is nothing wrong with keeping people informed with real knowledge vs what the media is portraying... fancylad is reporting the news with no bias... giving what some of us people that are SUPER busy and are not in our computer literally 24/7 a chance to see what we don't see from the media.. I comend him for that and want to say that he helps me stay updated outside of whatever random shit that's posted in FB and instaz... seriously.. thanks fancy.. 

Also.. side note.. my good friend that works as a bartender at Anna O'brians had BILL FUCKING MURRAY walk into his bar last night and hung out with him while he gave his girlfriend a head massage! Have the pics but cannot put it on the comments... Holy shit I'm so mad I didn't find out till after... like... so mad
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Male 30
fancylad is reporting the news with no bias... 

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Male 313


Trump doesn't even have the class to kick in some money towards covering the extra costs to the taxpayers.  Putz!  
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Male 6,619
For the cost of Melania's security cost of staying in New York, that could pay for some of the budget cuts to meals on wheels.  Think about that.
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Female 3,392
normalfreak2 seems the same folks that are so hot to blow $250,000.00 a year of other peoples' money and scream insults at those in favor of stopping the gross overspending are the same ones that will spend the same $250,000.00 on a bernie sanders action figure.  Think about that.
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Male 6,619
melcervini Howso?  Listen taxes are the price we pay to live in a civilized society.  I don't know if you appreciate how hard it is to keep civilization running the way it does.  I think you take what we have for granted.  Taxes are necessasry
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normalfreak2 Taxes are very necessary for certain things, not to run the entire show.   If you sit on your ass waiting for everyone to do things for you, or spend other people's money rather than get out there and do something yourself the shithole gets bigger and bigger.  case in point: look at the difference between the Japanese earthquake clean up vs the Katrina clean up.  After a year, the Japanese people cleaned up their own shit and didn't sit on their asses demanding the Govt do it and you couldn't even tell there'd been a disaster a year following, but New Orleans is STILL a shithole because they're sitting and waiting on someone else to clean it up for them. (while they looted).    Meals on wheels took in 7.5 MILLION dollars WITHOUT the paltry 250k from the feds.  Its a 3% pittance they wont miss and one of thousands of budget cuts we need to get this bullshit budget fixed that's been ignored for decades.
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Male 6,619
melcervini I agree with the premise not the delivery.  

Its a 3% pittance they wont miss and one of thousands of budget cuts we need to get this bullshit budget fixed that's been ignored for decades.

I'm going to argue with you here, if you want to tackle budget issues why aren't you going after the big things?  Military and Healthcare?  Going after what he's targetted in that budget won't FIX the budget.  You can't cut taxes and increase spending.  Is that how you do your finances at home?  Take in a lower income but start spending beyond your means?
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Female 3,392
normalfreak2 this is my 3d and last attempt to post a response on this thread or the others... everything I put up vanishes and frankly im tired of reposting. (my dumbass didn't learn the first time and C&P to the side)  there have to be much more cuts in order to balance, not raise the debt ceiling AGAIN.  My household budget has ZERO credit cards, 2 car payments, then utilities and  frivolous cable and cell phone bills that we all pitch in to pay.  IF having something means going into debt to have it, we do without.
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Male 37,683
melcervini They are here, I can read them. 
Sometimes (rarely) I need to hit refresh to see the comment. Or exit the post and come back.
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Male 66
"Ivanka who seems like a nice enough person, but who has no social mores when it comes to relating with anyone out of her tax bracket."

She is a parent raising 3 kids. I'm sure is has plenty of things in common with most everyone in the world.
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Male 1,276
johncourage LOLOLOLOLOL
I'm sure she has no help whatsoever in raising her kids. </sarcasm>
Let's see how she'd do without her daddy's money and influence.
Let's see her work 2 or 3 jobs to pay rent or mortgage, car payments, etc without daddy's billions.
Don't put her in the same category as ACTUAL working mothers.
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Male 66
oobaka Oh please, she is a person like the rest of us and i'm sure is capable of relating to anyone in some way or another. Wealthy people and their children and grand children aren't some strange other world creature. They are just people like everyone else.
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Male 1,276
johncourage You get funnier and funnier.
I'm sure Ivanka goes grocery shopping just like any mother of 3.
She dresses each child, packs them into her car that still has years of payments on and drags them all to WalMart, right?
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she has help out the ying yang and probably hasn't been within miles of a WalMart.
She likes to take the kids out to the family's country home on the weekends. How many people do you know live in a skyscraper in New York and weekend at their country home?
She could NEVER relate to the average mother unless she lost all her family's money and power.
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Male 6,619
johncourage Yes they are people, people that don't have the normal stressor's that are had by "typical" people.  Those experiences change your perspective.  Raising a kid poor or wealthy there's a world of difference in the life experiences and the world you know and understand.  You sound awfully confused as if you are disconnected from reality?  
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Male 66
normalfreak2 There is common ground between those raised rich or poor.
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Male 565
johncourage You are just plain ignorant.  I know people who are pretty well off and they are completely out of touch with someone like me who is just a couple paychecks away from living on the street.  They can't even understand why I don't take my daughter to the movie theater every week, or why I choose to have a backyard bar-b-que for her birthday party instead of gong to some expensive kids place and paying for all the other kids.  I seriously doubt someone like Ivanka, who has at least 10 times the amount of money as these people can understand us.  They may be just people like everyone else, but they see things differently.  
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Male 66
waldo863 Let's just go ahead and make generalizations about everyone based on some small experiences with a few people. That sounds reasonable.
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Male 20,111
johncourage You haven't read her 2009 book, "The Trump Card,{

Here's a little passage that'll let you in on how in-tune she is with the common American who doesn't have a staff of cooks, house help, and nannies at the ready...

The opening sentence...

"In business, as in life, nothing is ever handed to you." Then, Ivanka quickly adds... "Yes, I’ve had the great good fortune to be born into a life of wealth and privilege, with a name to match. Yes, I’ve had every opportunity, every advantage. And yes, I've chosen to build my career on a foundation built by my father and grandfather." 

Later, she writes that she and her brothers didn't get their jobs in their father's company "by any kind of birthright or foregone conclusion."
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Male 37,683
fancylad Because NO MILLIONAIRES or BILLIONAIRES have EVER held public office in the USA before!
And every single rich Democrat has paid for everything themselves, never once using taxpayer-funded security, housing, transportation or even meal vouchers! Nope! Not one!

So we need a completely separate set of rules for Trump, because THAT is what America is all about! Different laws for different people! Liberal Logic at its finest.

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Male 66
fancylad None of that means that she can't relate to ordinary people.

It is also wonderful that her parents and probably grand-parents were able to secure wealth and pass it down to her. That's called America.
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Male 2,339
johncourage Those last two sentences of yours suggest that you are out-of-step with the ideas of our founding fathers and with one of the basic tenets of this nation's founding. America is supposed to be a meritocracy, where each generation has a chance to perform on a level playing field--not a land of inherited wealth, where a select few families amass ever-increasing wealth and advantage over the rest of society.

I could be wrong, but I imagine this far into my comment you are angry. I get that reaction a lot when I have to explain this topic and disabuse people of notions they've taken in from the propaganda of the far right. But I'm not your enemy here. As Americans, we're on the same side, and as one citizen to another, I'm just trying to help you understand one of the things that made America great and different from other nations at the time of its founding.

At the time of our revolution, state legislatures abolished primogeniture, viewing that the practice's resulting concentration of wealth in fewer and fewer hands was contrary to the ideas of the country they were trying to establish. In the Virginia legislature, Thomas Jefferson led the reforms and cited the ideas of Adam Smith, who wrote: "A power to dispose of estates forever is manifestly absurd. The earth and the fullness of it belongs to every generation, and the preceding one can have no right to bind it up from posterity. Such extension of property is quite unnatural."

Do I think parents should be prohibited from passing on wealth tax-free to their children? No; I think they should be able to do so, within limits. Should you have $1 million to pass on to your children--great, God bless. $2 million? More power to you, and much happiness to your children. $5 million? Wow, you've done great; pass on that spectacular good fortune to your children, with no tax due.

But more than $5 million--or $10 million for a husband and wife? Now we're starting to enter the realm of the really rich, and this is where I think valid concerns of antidemocratic aristocracies emerge. To counter this, the United States has an estate tax which kicks in at amounts over $5.5 million or $11 million per married couple. Parents who want to pass on more than $11 million to their children pay a 40% tax on the amount beyond that mark.

For example, Mr. & Mrs. Jones, let's say, want to leave $100 million to their children, Bobby and Susan. Their estate tax breaks down as follows:
1. First $11 million: No estate tax at all.
2. Next $89 million: Estate taxed at 40%.
3. Total estate tax paid on $100 million: $35.6 million.
4. Total money received by Bobby and Susan: $64.4 million.

I think the numbers are just and perfectly in keeping with American ideals. We are part of a society, after all, and integral to that society is the notion that those of us who are able to contribute toward the commonweal* should.

The super-rich in our society, however, have chafed at these principles of our founding fathers and done their best to undo them, often by hoodwinking the common man into thinking that he's going to be punished somehow by the estate tax. Unless you and your wife have amassed a fortune of more than $11 million, the estate tax in no way at all affects you.

Yet the super-rich have redubbed the estate tax "The Death Tax"--sounds sinister, doesn't it?--and gotten the middle class and even the lower classes to fear it and agitate for its repeal. This, no doubt, has the super-rich chuckling because they have, once again, duped those below them into voting for anti-American legislation that is counter to their own best interests.
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*The infrastructure whereby every citizen is given access to safe housing, good roads, clean water and air, uncontaminated food, and the opportunity of a good education; the level playing field of a meritocratic society; or, as Merriam-Webster defines it, "the happiness, health, and safety of all of the people of a community or nation."
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Male 6,619
squrlz4ever Great comment  you get a thumbs up and 2 nuts.
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Male 2,339
normalfreak2 Thanks, NF2. I appreciate it. I'm always impressed by your knowledge and level-headed demeanor on here. ~noms nuts~
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Male 66
squrlz4ever That's great but it wasn't a reply to my statement. I didn't say anything about first born sons or the amassing of wealth. Securing wealth for your children is American. Creating a better life for yourself and your children is American.
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Male 2,339
johncourage Well, if I misunderstood your sentences about "securing wealth and passing it down," my apologies. If you appreciate the concept of a meritocracy and the role that our estate tax plays in discouraging family dynasties, we're in accord.

For my part, I'm in full agreement with your latest comment about "creating a better life for yourself and your children." Cheers.
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Male 2,339
fancylad Interesting. Thanks for taking the time to offer those quotes, Fancy.

Have you heard of the Monopoly Experiment? In a study, behavioral scientists gave randomly selected players double the starting cash, double the money every time they passed "Go," and allowed them to roll with both dice while restricting the other players to just one. Many observations emerged as to how the behavior of the "rich" Monopoly players began to contrast with that of the "poor" Monopoly players. Most notable, however, were the post-game interviews, where the winning rich players usually focused on all their "excellent choices," which they said allowed them to win, and made scant mention of the rigged aspects of the game.
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Male 2,756
johncourage 
Does she have to work, or would she be financially supported - well beyond the means of the average person - if she chose not to?
Is she 3 paychecks away from being homeless?
Does she have paid, professional help - before moving into the whitehouse - to look after her kids?
Far as I can see, she has no financial stressors, doesn't have to worry about housing/clothing/feeding/caring for her kids, and is not scrambling for childcare.
So other than that, yup - she has just buckets in common with everyone in the world.
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Male 37,683
captkangaroo Because the Clintons, Obamas, Gores, Bidens, Kerrys, Kennedys and Rockefellers and all the rest of the Democrat millionaires and billionaires were just common folks!

But any Republican is out of touch, even if he was raised in poverty and put himself through school to become a brain surgeon? He's got nothing in common with the public. Liberal Logic!
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5cats 
Oh my goodness, must you reduce everything to democrat vs republican, liberal vs conservative?
What a simplistic and limited worldview.
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Male 37,683
captkangaroo You've reduced it to utterly simplistic "us v them" terms as well, you're just a hypocrite about it though.
It's OK for Dems to be out-of touch millionaires, but without any evidence at all you accuse a Republican of that? And say it's terrible?
Who is the one making it 'all about' Dem v Repub? hummm? (hint: it's you)
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5cats 
Look dumbass, I did not accuse anyone of anything, and I made no reference of her being a republican - that is the distinction you, through your own bias, your own filter, have made.
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Male 37,683
captkangaroo Now you're claiming Trump (and his family) is NOT A REPUBLICAN? Do you honestly believe the Democrat presidents had the MSM BITCHING about how much money Michelle and the rest spent? Hell no! They proudly reported her $30,000 purse! It proved how great she was! The White House had to step in and (falsely) claim it was just a 'knock off' only worth $1,200. That's because every common American Mom has a $1,200 purse... for fuck's sake.

So: holy Shiite!! You really are dumber than you look.
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5cats 
Whenever I log into this site and see I have a notification, I can rest assured that 5cats has - willfully, it would seem - misunderstood some I did say, or did not say, then spins - out of wholecloth -  some kind of backstory, motivation or point of view that he then assigns to me, and THEN berates me for it.
Poor 5cats, a simpleton living in an either-or/black-white world, with blinders and rose colored glasses firmly in place.
Fuck off asshole.
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captkangaroo You said she wasn't a Republican. So? What you said is about a Republican, period. I have misunderstood nothing, and have not 'spun' anything. You talked shit about someone, A REPUBLICAN, you've never even met, based on lies spread by the MSM and DNC. Fuck you too!

You didn't "say she is one"? That doesn't change the FACT that she IS INDEED a Republican. MY point is that you and all the rest of the IAB Liberals refuse to apply ONE set of rules to politicians. There's one set for Repubs and a completely different set for Dems. YOU are the one seeing black and white, you aren't even aware that grey areas exist ffs...
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5cats 
You are a liar, a fool, a simpleton - and an asshole.
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Male 66
captkangaroo Yes, buckets in common with everyone else. That was my point.
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Male 2,339
captkangaroo All good points there, Cap'n.
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Male 2,339
It's an interesting development, for sure. Ivanka appears to be the best thing Trump has going for him. I think she's got a good head on her shoulders and is striving to moderate some of the more troubling aspects of her father's personality. 

As far as the Trumps' decision for Melania to remain in Manhattan, I'm not a fan. It's a wasteful expense for the President and First Lady to have separate living quarters and I can't think of a precedent. I can only imagine how the heads would have been exploding over at Fox News if Michelle Obama had said, "Naaah... As First Lady, I'm not moving into the White House. I'm staying here in Chicago."
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squrlz4ever Shortly before the inauguration, the story was that she was going to remain in NY with their son until he finished this year of school.  It made news because the parents of the other children from the school were kind of throwing a fit about the increase in security at the school and the hassle it was going to cause for them.
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Male 38,457
squrlz4ever Just read your post.... now I know you're nuts well and truly 
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Male 2,339
Gerry1of1 How so?
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Male 5,179
squrlz4ever How does he know your nuts? Have your nuts been seeing him with out you knowing about it? Better keep a better handle on them or maybe a shorter leash?
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Male 2,339
thezigrat You make a good point there, Tentacles. ~crosses legs~
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Male 5,179
squrlz4ever I however keep mine in orifices under my arm pits. 
btw want an unsalted peanut?
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thezigrat Don't mind if I do. ~nom nom nom nom nom~

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