The National Park Service Has Made It Official: Obama's Is Bigger Than Trump's

Submitted by: markust123 7 months ago in News & Politics


It is understandable that during the inauguration, President Trump believed he had record attendance numbers -- looking into a crowd gives the illusion of a fuller audience. The problem is you can only see the true size of a crowd from above. What is not understandable is his inability to admit that he was wrong after being presented with the overhead shots from the Washington Monument. His stubbiness to come clean prompted multiple media outlets to file Freedom of Information Act requests for the Nation Parks Service to release their inauguration pictures. These photographs were posted March 3rd and can be found in zipped files here

The following photograph was taken at 11:56 am. Four minutes before Donald Trump was sworn in. This is a large file, you can zoom in on the monitors and see Justice Thomas swearing in Pence. You will also notice that there aren't many more people streaming in. That's pretty much the crowd for the day.



What is really telling about the expected crowd size is only five of the giant monitors were setup on the Mall for Trump's inauguration. Two additional monitors were setup further back for Obama's crowd plus an eighth monitor for the overflow crowd that was expected (and did) congregating under the Washington Monument. Trump's audience barely made it past the Hirshhorn Museum which was only the halfway mark of Obama's Mall crowd.
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Male 1,665
Oviously the crowds are smaller but you cant count out the number of people that would have gone and tried to  but didn't and were kept out by the fact that the left for weeks said that they were going to disrupt the Inauguration and did talk about using violence and did use violence and continue to use violence against any one that supports Trump. (regardless of what you say is the legally elected President) Who has not done what the left said he would I don't see him killing or illegally harming any one, rounding up any race for the simple fact of being a particular race, or religion, or sex or what ever. So lets give it a break and if he is going to screw the pooch let him do it, or not, and stop hounding him for every little stupid thing that you fell is bad.
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Male 3,410
You say National Parks Service...I say Leslie Knope!
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Male 19
when you run on a platform of "hate", dont be surprised when u don't feel the "love"
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Male 6,085
jarred Great response... ~offers a peanut~
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Male 1,437
Pfft. Alternative Facts!
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Male 6,085
Obama's was only bigger because of all the Illegal dead Mexicans who voted for Clinton also showed up for Obama's inauguration as well
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Male 8,526
Did anyone doubt that the attendance at the first black President's inauguration had a larger attendance than the inauguration of another white guy?  It was historically significant and historically a barrier that needed to be broken.

Just a shame it was wasted on Obama.
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Male 9,732
megrendel "Did anyone doubt"

Ummmm, ya, the president you voted for. In fact he publicly said it on numerous occasions even after photos and videos were released. 
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Male 8,526
holygod The president who won for the sole reason that the alternative was worse.
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Male 9,732
megrendel The president who won because the people who voted for him believe in "alternative facts".
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Male 8,526
holygod the people who voted for him believe in "alternative facts".

Which "alternative facts" would you be referring to?  

The "alternative fact" that the Democratic Nomination was rigged?
The "alternative fact" that was a proven liar?
The "alternative fact" that she was an abysmal failure at email security?
The "alternative fact" that she was just so damn unlikable?
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Male 9,732
megrendel God yes, is she unlikeable. She has no charisma or personality whatsoever. Likability isn't that big a factor for me. I've said before that people who choose a president based on who they'd like to have a beer with are fucking idiots. Unfortunately, the country is full of fucking idiots. Bush was more likable than Gore or Kerry. No doubt. However, I guess I thought we voted to pick the leader of the free world, not Prom King.
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Male 9,732
megrendel Yep. She fucked up using the wrong email server. If that was your one and only metric for which to pick a president then good job. You definitely picked the correct one.
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Male 9,732
megrendel There isn't a politician on Earth that isn't a proven liar. You can't objectively tell me that Hillary has a bigger history of lying than Trump does. The guy fucking lies about whether it rained at his inauguration. He lies so much it is a joke. When people complained about Hillary they'd bring up a lie from years ago. When people complain about Trump they bring up the lies from THAT DAY.
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Male 9,732
megrendel 

Let's talk about the democratic nomination for a second. 

1. I will say for the record for all of time that I liked Bernie. I liked Bernie 10 years ago. I would have voraciously supported Bernie till my dying breath. There isn't a doubt in my mind he would be president right now.

2. The parties can pick whoever they want to run. They don't owe the people or anyone anything. There are no rules whatsoever they have to follow and nobody they are beholden to.

3. Bernie isn't a democrat. You don't think the democrats were going to do everything in their power to make sure a democrat won the democrat's primary? Bernie running for the democratic nomination is almost like someone from Switzerland competing in the Miss USA pageant.
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Male 8,526
holygod Excellent post,and I'll reply in kind.

1. Bernie was the better candidate.  I believe he would have beat Trump.  I do not like his platform, but I had more trust in him than Hillary.

2. Yes, they can pick whoever they want to run. I've never argued that. BUT, don't try and put on a big farce of a 'fair and balanced nomination by the people' bullshit, manage to completely fuck it up and expect people to like it.  Why bother to even hold Democratic Primaries when, in reality, you don't give a shit about what the people want?

3. Agreed. 
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Male 454
holygod 1. Bernie would have won.

2. There are no express rules, but the unscrupulous manner in which Clinton won should infuriate you, especially since her nomination is the reason Trump is president.

3. Eschewing a quality candidate for a dumpster fire of a politician should be a disqualifying act for the democratic leadership. Every democrat should be demanding the political heads of those who allowed blind party allegiance to give away the presidency altogether. 
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Male 6,085
megrendel Well compared to Strumpy Obama was an excellent president. Look at all the accomplishments he has achieved by this time in office compared to Strumpys' failed and ill concieved executive orders.
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Male 6,085
thezigrat #Support the Truth!
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Male 771
megrendel Yes, the President voiced that he doubted it... whether he actually believes what he says or is just saying things because he knows some people will take it face value idk.
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Male 1,018
megrendel Did anyone? Did ANYONE? Doofus in chief did. 
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Male 6,085
marsii Doofus must have the largest crowd, the tallest Trump Tower, Most popular votes, the Biggest hands, Longest private part (yes these are things he has lied about) And The most coverage on his speech or he throws a temper tantrum. Does this sound like a president or a 3 year old?
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Male 9,732
Well it was raining. I mean it wasn't raining. It was definitely raining. No rain. What's rain? "God blesses the speech with rain". "God looked down and decided he wouldn't let it rain".
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Male 40,728
Trump meant 'bigger' in the historical sense... oh wait, the first half-negro president was a much bigger deal. :-D

Fine, whatever, there were more people attending Obama's than Trump's. "What difference does it make, now?"

Again we remind our IAB Liberal friends of the many threats and actual violence carried out by the liberal-leftists which probably scared a lot of people away...

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Male 497
5cats "What difference does it make, now?"

Depends....are you asking the current president?  If you are..it makes a big difference because he is the one who made this an issue.
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Male 40,728
bophus He said it what, once or twice? And the MSM harped on it for over a week.
Who's the one with an issue? He said HIS OPINION (however wrong it may have been) and the MSM went berserk... You cannot even hold an opinion any longer?
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Male 7,910
5cats When it's BLATANTLY wrong and he kept defending it?  Absolutely.
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Male 40,728
normalfreak2 It's his opinion, suckitup. 
And also? What difference does it make, now? It's not like Americans citizens DIED or something....
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Male 7,910
5cats Nah just the President telling us alternative facts.  No big deal right?
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Male 1,732
5cats *LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL*
You're a fucking asshole and everyone here knows it.
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Male 40,728
oobaka And your mother must be so proud of you. Name calling is the highest form of discussion, eh? She taught you well.

Wait, you deny there were riots before, during and after the inauguration? That various liberal-left groups organized them? That they'd been rioting across America since Nov? You deny this?
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5cats Fuck off you feckless cunt?
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Male 1,732
5cats My mother is dead 11 years tomorrow and if you were in front of me right now I'd tear your fucking head off
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Male 215
oobaka If, by chance, you are offended, think but this and all is mended: As the winter of his life encroaches, as the grip of morality approaches, the reality is his death will be lauded,and by hundreds of IAB'ers applauded. The future you have is infinitely brighter, your mother, God rest her, raised a fighter. Look in the mirror sir, lest you lose your way, think to yourself, "Does he deserve to ruin my day?" Then smile and shave and go on your way, don't spend another moment dragged down this way.
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Male 40,728
oobaka Good, she didn't have see the shameful behavior of that thing she spawned. 

Both my mothers are still alive, but both my fathers are dead, just fyi...

If you can't take the heat? Why are you throwing matches? You started it, so suck shit.
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Male 538
5cats Yep, I seem to remember you defending his claim at the time too.
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Male 40,728
mrteatime Yup. So?
The 'evidence' presented was weak, and guess what? No one except the DNC and MSM cares about the number of people attending, the election was over, we won.
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Male 1,732
5cats No one cared except the DNC and MSM?
Are you out of your fucking mind?
trump kept claiming he had a bigger crowd and even sent out his lap dog Spicer to claim the same thing.

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Male 40,728
oobaka People in the MSM asked his spokesman about it, and he replied, OMG! The horror!
So if the MSM and DNC didn't care? Why did they spend a week or more attacking him for saying it? Hummm?

It was his opinion. An off the cuff remark. Yet for a WEEK the MSM focused 'laser-like' on it as if he'd said something Earth-shaking! Sounds like they all cared very much indeed.
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Male 497
5cats Do you accept facts in any form?  Trump brought up the attendance first.
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Male 40,728
bophus Again, SO? He stated an opinion. SO? WTF is wrong with that?
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Male 1,364
5cats That's not at all how I remember it though. I remember Trump making the outrageous claim, the MSM easily disproving his lie, and then Trump doubling down on it by sending Spicer in the lion's den and him clearly saying "This was the largest audience to witness an inauguration PERIOD!"

The MSM didn't care as much about the claim than what the claim represented....an alternate reality which is something NO president should have
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Male 9,732
5cats By "we" you mean non-Americans? Yes, you won. Americans lost.
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Male 1,364
holygod *Mic drop
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Male 40,728
doiknowyou Drop the mic? Hardly.

He is 100% wrong. Unless he has ESP? He knows shit all about shit.

Did I say "Americans won"? No I did not. I said 'we' as in conservatives. As in those who opposed Queen Hillary. So how he picks the most stupid possible reason? Oh yeah, because he's a leftist-liberal who believes anything the DNC tells him :-p
And you believed him...
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Male 1,364
5cats Weird, I remember you defending him on his claim. But now that it's been proven wrong you claim the snowflakes scared the tough, rootin' tootin', conservatives away? 
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Male 1,732
doiknowyou I watched it live. The photo of the emptiness was taken approximately 5 minutes before trump was sworn in. The angle from behind trump was much lower and, therefore, showed a lot less empty space. 
Imagine trying to see a pond from ground level when it's surrounded by trees. Impossible. Now try to look at that same pond but from an airplane flying directly above. Easy. Same with the trump crowd.
How fragile of a snowflake must trump be to care so much about how many people love him? And to claim God himself stopped the rain? You're out of your fucking mind, trump.
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Male 40,728
doiknowyou At the time? The 'evidence' presented was weaksauce. They stopped showing Trump's crowd fully 15 minutes before the start, compared it to all the people who came super-early to Obama's. If this picture (which looks identical to the 15 minute one) is indeed from 5 minutes before? They that's that eh?

Of course the pictures from the podium, showing MANY MORE people than this in attendance once his speech started? Still clearly less than Obama's crowd but... how can they not be accurate? Why not use the actual maximum crowd pictures from both?

And again, no one was threatening violence over Obama. There weren't rioters blocking roads and delaying people from attending for Obama. There weren't WEEKS of riots leading up to Obama...

And yes, threats of violence do keep lawful citizens from both parties away. You think ONLY Republicans should attend Trump's inauguration? You think ONLY democrats were in attendance at Obama's? Seriously?
It's supposed to be a unifying moment, but liberal-leftist rioters, the DNC and the MSM (sorry to be 3x redundant) did their very best to make it 100% partisan... shameless.

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Male 1,364
5cats Do you honestly think, way down inside your honest Canadian heart, that Trumps crowd would have surpassed Obama's? Partisanship aside, and hatred aside (cause size of crowd doesn't make Obama better than Trump).
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Male 40,728
doiknowyou Nope. I thought from the very start Trump was mistaken. He offered his opinion, if it's wrong? Who cares? It wasn't a PHD paper he'd submitted...

I even said: "Still clearly less than Obama's crowd..." OK?

Obama's crowd was massive, and rightfully so, because everyone (including many Republicans) had high hopes for the first half-negro to become President. It was a very historic moment!

Not one IAB Liberal member actually asked me though. All they did was attack, attack personally and insult me. And ignore anything I said, like that's unusual! Lolz!

Very late in the arguments I think one person did ask? Can't recall who. But never replied to my answer, which was 'no I think Obama's crowd was clearly larger'. :-/

But thanks for your asking! You're the first, maybe second to actually ask an HONEST question about it. :-)
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Male 6,085
5cats Not according to Ban and Strumpy, Strumpy wants a congressional investigation to prove his had the biggest crowd
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Male 1,364
You have to be pretty full of yourself to think, even after photo proof, that you'd get a bigger inauguration attendance than the first black president in U.S. history
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Male 40,728
doiknowyou See above. I just said the 'evidence' offered was weak. And that OTHER THINGS like treats of violence (and having a job) needed to be taken into account.

The vote is over, the number of people attending teh inauguration is of no consequence. We won, she lost.
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Male 6,077
Look at that! LOOK AT THAT!! 
That bastard Obama photo-tapped Trump's inauguration!
Sheesh!
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Male 6,085
broizfam Imaginary Illegal Wire tapping and photo shopping Government photos
# Sick Man, Sad!      < An Obama Twitter thread
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Male 7,910
Time for an Investigation into this leak! 
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