A Ryerson University Professor Told Her Student To Only Use Feminist Resources

Submitted by: 5cats 3 months ago in News & Politics


Josephine Mathias, 21, a fourth-year poli-sci student at University of Toronto, took to YouTube Wednesday to criticize the assignment given her twin Jane for a sociology class. When her twin sister got a blistering e-mail from her professor (see below), Josephine stepped up and spoke out in the video above...



For the record? The "wage gap" is simply badly-read statistics. One cannot take (for one example of how twisted it is) total wages earned by men and women and divide them. That fails to consider (at the very least) the total hours worked by each group. Include that critical fact and the alleged "wage gap" practically vanishes. Plenty of other natural factors easily account for the rest.

Imagine if the wage gap were real? It would mean an international secret cartel of men (and only men) have been oppressing women for decades now and somehow ignoring all market forces in keeping their wages artificially lower than male wages.... why on Earth would they do that?

It boggles the imagination, but that's Feminist Dogma and this professor is shamelessly pushing it down the impressionable throats of her students.
There are 24 comments:
Male 7,910
Here's my experience with the 'wage gap'.  

Worked at a textile plant as a Chemical Lab Tech (first chemistry job, ever).   When comparing the last paycheck of the year with a female co-worker, she was upset to find I had made over $13,000 more than her during the year (we worked the same exact job).  

She said it was not fair that a guy made more than her.   

I pointed out to her that 1) We were paid hourly, and as she had more seniority in the position she actually made MORE than I did on an hourly basis and 2) She had turned down every chance at Overtime (hell, barely worked her OWN schedule), while I never missed a day worked OT every time it was offered, thus I had actually worked many more hours than she had.

She still thought it was unfair.
0
Reply
Male 552
The wage gap isn't quite what most people state, though it exists in some industries/ professions to a greater degree than others (as does the glass ceiling).  Advising students to look at certain sources is also a good idea.  Telling them to ignore other sources is simply bad teaching, though.  Bias exists in every source, so looking at multiple perspectives is important.  
1
Reply
Male 238
faustsshadow Directing them to sources is poor teaching. What they should teach is the ability to find valid sources from all sides (the problem is that even many professors in social sciences seem to be lacking in this area).
1
Reply
Male 552
Fojos I respectfully disagree, although I would accept a middle ground on this.  I direct students to certain sources that I know are relevant to a given topic, but I usually do so to help them have a starting point in their research.  I also spend quite a bit of time with students helping them learn how to navigate proper research databases, instead of just using the open web.  Directing to sources can be good teaching, if it is framed as a way to help begin their research (instead of as an end to it).
0
Reply
Male 446
<sigh> Yes there remains a wage gap.  Equal pay for equal work was an enormous problem when women moved into the job market - this is proven beyond a doubt.  However, it has not been erased, not yet.   The wage gap is closing in advanced countries, but still exists particularly where tradition and religion do not acknowledge  parity between the genders, especially in white collar work.

The glass ceiling is also a problem; however, this is generally a time-based issue as the old boys that run the old-boy network are slowly dying off.  There are many reports and studies that show the numbers of women in directorship roles is increasing, but very slowly.  

In my 26 years of professional experience, the number of women has risen through the ranks, but have not achieved the top-level of success.  This is to be expected, as 25 years ago there weren't as many in the mid-levels - its a matter of numbers.  Now that the number of professionals that I run into are nearly  50/50 in every role, I'd expect the number of women at the top to continue to grow.  It will never reach 50/50, but it will become close enough to no longer matter.
-1
Reply
86
punko In the UK it's illegal to pay people different wages based on their gender. If people aren't getting equal pay for equal work then there's grounds for an employment tribunal under the Equality Act 2010. Any employer found to be engaging in that kind of activity could also face a review of their entire workforce.

http://www.acas.org.uk/index.aspx?articleid=1811

Equal pay for equal work, in the UK, is a legal requirement. If it hasn't been completely erased then where it exists there's a mechanism in place to erase it... If it's happening here, it's because people are allowing it to happen.
1
Reply
Male 446
johnbuchanan Doesn't apply to professional labour.  I.e. engineers, lawyers, architects etc. Thankfully, the gap is closing here as well.

Equal pay is also the law here in Canada, but only based on recent legislation.  There is still a backlog of historical pay issues that are currently before the courts.
-1
Reply
86
punko Wait...  What doesn't apply ?  The law ?  There are no caveats in the equal pay act that state that professionals can be treated differently... The law is the law.  

If you have two engineers, lawyers or architects in the UK who are working for the same company, doing the same job, working the same hours, have the same qualifications and started the job at the same time it is most definitely illegal to pay them differently based solely on their gender.  You can go to a  tribunal, you will win your case and your employer will likely have their hiring and pay policies scrutinised as a result.

The only situation where it permissible to discriminate on the grounds of gender with employment is where the job requires someone of a specific gender to do the job - that's not discrimination though... It's common sense.

EG : You don't want to employ men at a battered women's shelter for obvious reasons, so advertising the job exclusively to women is fine. It's not discrimination. 

If you disagree that's fine, but you can't just say "Doesn't apply to X, Y and Z" without providing evidence.  I provided you with a reference to support what I'm saying. Try doing the same... You may well be right, it may be buried somewhere deep in these documents and as I've only skim read most of them over the years I could have missed it.  But, that said, I just did a targeted search for what you're describing and - as I suspected - I can find no caveats to support what you're saying.

Equal pay for equal work is a legal requirement enshrined in law in the UK... No exceptions.  I will say it again because it's completely true, at least where I live, if there are instances of people experiencing a lack of equal pay for equal work it is because they are allowing it to happen.
0
Reply
Male 446
johnbuchanan In Canada (at least Ontario, where I live) the compensation provisions in the Employment Standards act excludes professional workers (engineers, architects, lawyers).  And I might add, this was at the request of the professions that are self-regulating (engineers, et al).  We were told by our professional associations that professionals in all similarly regulated countries were treated the same.
0
Reply
86
punko In that case, when you said "<sigh> Yes there remains a wage gap." and "However, it (the issue of not getting equal pay for equal work) has not been erased, not yet." you should have qualified those statements by saying that is the case in Canada.

As it stands, what you posted originally is just flat out wrong because it's not applicable globally.
0
Reply
Male 446
johnbuchanan " Equal pay is also the law here in Canada, " it was in my post.
0
Reply
86
punko  

I wrote : "As it stands, what you posted originally is just flat out wrong because it's not applicable globally."

I was talking about your *original* post... It reads like you're talking globally, there's nothing specific in it about the location. It's wrong.

Kinda like if I said "Women have equal rights, equal pay, there's no wage gap - it's a complete myth and women aren't oppressed" ... That's flat out wrong because I'm not qualifying the statement.
0
Reply
Male 446
johnbuchanan I'm sorry.  I am fairly certain that the issue of equal pay for equal work has not been solved globally. The statement " The wage gap is closing in advanced countries, but still exists particularly where tradition and religion do not acknowledge  parity between the genders " is globally valid.

Perhaps I don't see what you are finding erroeous.  Certainly "just flat out wrong" seems quite strong for an issue that still exists.

Unless of course, you can prove that gender discrimination doesn't occur, even illegally anywhere ?
0
Reply
86
punko You opened with "<sigh> Yes there remains a wage gap." and I can just as easily say "<sigh> No there isn't" ... Who's correct ?

Sweeping statements like that are both true and false at the same time.  If you don't see what's erroneous about that I'm not sure this conversation is going to go anywhere.

Your first paragraph isn't applicable to my country, the second is and the third is just anecdotal. That's what I find erroneous.
0
Reply
Male 38,774
She's not going to get very far speaking facts and making sense.
1
Reply
Male 57
Gerry1of1 Those facts are hurting my feelings though.
1
Reply
Male 38,418
starzokc Hey! You have to pay extra for that bud!! (lolz!)
0
Reply
Male 38,774
starzokc Poor little snow flake. . . Here's a trophy for just being 'You'!
1
Reply
Male 57
Gerry1of1 It's about time I get a trophy for not doing shit!
0
Reply
Male 5,264
Gerry1of1 We normally gave people like that a gold medal and a hug.
0
Reply
Female 3,517
If she's that dedicated, she wouldn't accept her paycheck signed by a man.
0
Reply
Male 38,418
melcervini I presume you mean the professor, lolz! Not these nice (twins!) young women.
1
Reply
Female 3,517
5cats whomever the head of the university is or signs her paychecks
0
Reply
Male 38,774
melcervini "No check? She should just work for free? Like women are chattel and don't have the right to earn? Your war on women is outrageous!!!" - how feminists react
2
Reply