Maybe If You Gave Trump A Break, You'd See That His Cabinet Is Right About Everything

Submitted by: bliznik 8 months ago in News & Politics

This Washington Post Op-Ed piece culls together all of Trump's alternative facts that the mainstream media has been unfairly criticizing him about, and shows us why the MSM was wrong all along -- even when it has been right.

Here are a few excerpts:

"There is a much simpler explanation for the list of Secret Media Terrorism Coverups and the Bowling Green Massacre and the 'alternative facts' than this idea that somehow, the Trump administration is making up facts or misleading the American people. Nonsense. They are doing the best they can with the facts they have. They simply have come here from an alternative universe."

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"When we look at their recently provided list of times when the media failed to cover Horrible Acts Of Terrorism, what we see is a long series of misspellings in which, often, zero people died. When they look at it, do they see millions of lives cut short, enough to justify a massive travel ban? It is unclear. What is clear is that they exist in a universe where no one reported adequately on the Paris attacks, whereas we live in a universe where all 130 victims were profiled. This discrepancy is nobody’s fault. There, the media really did cover up dozens of very serious attacks in which I, personally, was killed."

one more...

"There, the 'inner cities' are unbelievable. In that universe, any time people in the nightmarish hellscape of the inner city leave their homes, they are instantly shot. Every time. You cannot go to the store without being shot. People sit huddled in their homes waiting to draw straws as to who will leave the house first, as whoever does so is inevitably killed. It’s awful. If we could only see what is happening in that universe, we would agree with sending in the feds.

In that universe, you need guns in your schools to protect from bear attacks, which are CONSTANT.

In that universe, "attacker" is spelled without the C.
There are 66 comments:
Male 40,764
This is what IAB Liberals have to bring to the table now? Hate and personal insults? Nothing else, not one thing.
Shameful, but they feel no shame since self-justification is their favorite thing...

Making IAB a shitty place, that is all that is happening here.
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Male 5,024
5cats In 2009 I went through what you are dealing with. I had been on the offense for so long with Bush I didn't know how to handle the defense for the tsunami of attacks against Obama. I took each one personal and ended up immersing myself in partisan politics. The worst sites were the partisan "fact checkers", like Crooks and Liars, that showed the horrible things the other side was saying. Those sites would get me so mad. It didn't help that I had been laid off from work. My easy life became a rolling snowball of anger and negativity. The worst part was the brainwashing through repetition from the partisan media sites I was looking at. Lies were spun into truths repeatedly until they became my idea. And by God I was going to spread "my" great idea. I was letting myself be programed to be a parrot. It took almost two years before I couldn't take the madness any more. I wanted to be happy again so on Nov 6th 2010 I gave up all partisan sites and videos and never looked back. My depression popped within a few weeks like ears on a plane. To this day I still stay away from partisan media like it's the plague. The only place I talk politics anymore is IAB. This saves me from venting on Facebook and disrespecting my friends and family. Even here I usually just come to quench my love of fact checking. And I apologize for you getting the brunt of that. You're just so immersed in partisan politics right now that you are a fact checkers dream. Take it from someone who has been there, it's not a healthy world. The sooner you give up partisan us-against-them media the sooner you will be on the road to happiness. That is 100% from the heart.
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Male 6,077
5cats He's an idiot and we're not allowed to shoot him. What else is there besides hate and personal insults? That's pretty much what the conservatives did with Obama all these years. Shoe's on the other foot now, that's all. I would like to see the stupid raging protests end, though. If they want to protest let it be peaceful protest. Riot Protest.

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Male 20,917
5cats We're just working with what Trump's giving us.
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Male 40,764
fancylad Very little of the IAB content 'comes from Trump' it comes from the DNC. There's been a steady parade of lies, fabrications and gossip with very little in the way of facts or reality. Like this post for example, pure propaganda, pure hate.

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Male 341
This explains everything.


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Male 1,682
I just wish that ya'll would just stop crying end of the world and wait a reasonable time for any thing to happen. If his people turn out to start the end of the world we will vote him out. Not one of his so far policies has caused the United States to suddenly go broke or start a war despite what everyone said would happen. The schools are still open and putting out mediocre graduates we still have electricity we still have roads we still have security (maybe) we still have houses and we still have justice (maybe) and we still have a lot of other things so lets take a breath and let things move along.
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Male 20,917
casaledana Not one of his so far policies has caused the United States to suddenly go broke or start a war despite what everyone said would happen.

That's because the people who are opposed to his preposterous idea of what a US president aren't letting him.
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Male 3,446
casaledana I'm not waiting around for any of that to happen.
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Male 9,766
casaledana Isn't it nice to be an old, straight, white male, when the only barometer of governing you have is whether the end of the world starts? I mean fuck the poor kids that will get a worse education as their public school money is diverted to private schools right? Fuck the Muslim Americans who have to live in fear from their own government right? Fuck the Mexican working 12 hr days in a field for less than minimum wage who could be torn apart from his children at any moment right? No need for empathy you just worry about you. At least you still have justice (maybe).
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Male 550
holygod Well said.
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Male 3,446
holygod here here!  Not to mention all of the pregnant women who will soon have a "preexisting condition" and be forced into debt to pay for the birth of their child.
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Male 52
casaledana Do you think this is a f*ckin game? Jeez, you waffle-head, this is America and you don't bother with his crap you don't want to admit to but calmly propose to vote him out if it looks like he's about to start the end of the world. What a crock!
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Fuck Donald Trump. Fuck him long, fuck him hard.
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Male 87
I'm loving everyone flip out over Trump.  I hope he builds that wall.
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grryan Yeah, totally. 21.5 billion dollars spent over the course of 3 years seems like a good idea for a physical barrier that people can climb over or dig under, or hey, get this, FLY over too, on a plane. 

Not like a wall already exists in most places on the border, but yeah, 21.5 billion dollars seems like a good amount of money to spend on all that.

Who needs roads, or hospitals, or money spent on our public schools anyway?
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Male 287
pleasestop Illegal immigrants cost your country far more than 21.5 billion PER year. How do you figure stopping even less than half (or 10%) is a bad investment?

http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/sorry-but-illegal-aliens-cost-the-u-s-plenty/

Maybe you'd be better off watching your sitcoms instead of trying to debate economics.
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Fojos Please explain how a physical barrier stops people from crossing?

You do know that ladders exist right? Or tunnels. Or planes. Even boats
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Male 9,766
grryan Ya. Totally. Rednecks everywhere are ecstatic.
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Male 40,764
Remember when attacking the President on ANY topic was forbidden? Racist even?
Remember when Congress opposing ANY Presidential nominations was forbidden, treason even?
Seems like only yesterday... or about 4 and 8 years ago.
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Male 6,077
5cats Remember when congressional Republicans vowed to block anything the newly elected president tried to get done? It was just over 8 years ago, too. I don't think they ever did that with a Democratic President who happened to be white. But, no...couldn't possibly have been anything at all to do with race! Could it?
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Male 40,764
broizfam Except they didn't vow to block them BEFORE the candidate was even known. And didn't try to block each and every one of them, just the ones they didn't like. Quite a difference, I'd say.
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Male 6,077
5cats They may not have actually tried to block everything but they certainly started with that stated objective. They also refused to consider his nominee for the Supreme Court using the fact that he was an outgoing President as their bullshit excuse, in the hope that Rump would get elected and they'd have a more conservative nominee. Now the same assholes complain because the Democrats are foot dragging. What goes around comes around. The fact is that he was the President and, as such, his nominee should have been given due consideration.

Two other things:
1) What the hell are you talking about, "blocking them before a candidate is even known."?
2) I notice you had no response to the issue of race.
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Male 20,917
5cats I don't think verbally attacking a US president's actions was ever forbidden. It's actually a right.
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Male 6,077
fancylad Remember that, for 5Cats, a liberal disliking something is the equivalent of him/her forbidding it.  It's perfectly ok for a conservative to object to something, of course.
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Male 40,764
fancylad Even questioning his policies was roundly attacked. Asking things like 'why was the deficit 1.2 trillion dollars last year?' would get you branded a racist.
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Male 3,446
5cats Maybe because a lot of the attacks were racist and blocking things like a perfectly appropriate and highly qualified judge for the Supreme Court was a good idea.  Oh wait, you don't have any problems with the unqualified corporate tools Trump has been putting in charge of powerful agencies and passing unconstitutional executive orders...got it!
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Male 52
5cats - no one can remember when Congress opposing ANY Presidential nominations was forbidden, treason even because that's just more made up 5cats "alternative facts". Congress opposed and rejected a presidential nomination way back in 1834 and opposed Chuck Hagel's nomination as Sec. of Defense as late as 2013 (nope, no charges of treason filed). If you keep up with your Trump team bullshit, you'll invoke even more laughter from people who have a hard time believing anything that you type while in that left-field hissy-fit you seem to be in.
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Male 7,937
5cats You know what the difference is?  Obama didn't come out and bold face LIE to everyone all the time on things that were easily disprovable.  You can't compare anything Obama was saying vs what Trump is saying and doing.  They are in completely different universes, much like your perspective.
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Male 40,764
normalfreak2 HAHAHAHAAA! You can keep your policy, and it will cost $2,500 LESS for a family of four ON AVERAGE...

You are such a joke. But what difference does that make, now?
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Male 9,766
5cats Do you understand the difference between being wrong about what WILL happen and being wrong about what DID happen?
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Male 7,937
5cats Those weren't provable at the time.  I believe intent makes a difference.  Yes those ended up becoming true in some circumstances. (not all mind you).  Trump's lies are flat out incorrect with no basis of any truth.  The Murder rate up by 72% there's no proof of that.  Saying his rally had the most people EVER.  That's a lie, not even close.  3-5 million voted illegally? Again where's the proof?  Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.  Alternative facts are lies.  Bold flat out lies that spit in the face of any truth.
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Male 40,764
5cats The fact is that many of his nominations are terrific, yet the MSM and Democrats (sorry to be redundant) scream cry and shout WOLF for each and every one. Bringing up minute trivia and baseless accusations from decades ago. Just like 'he put the dog carrier on the roof of his car" or "Sarah doesn't know where Iraq is" and other gigantic lies and twisted tales designed to promote an agenda. 

People are sick and tired of it, and yet the MSM and Dems (sorry to be redundant) have once again "doubled down" on the lies. It's literally all they have now.

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Male 6,077
5cats Oh, yeah. Like Education to be headed by someone who's likely never even seen the inside of a public school. Or Energy to be headed by someone who thought the Dept of Energy should be closed. I just know that if Adolf Eichmann was still alive Trump would make him head of National Security. 
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Male 6,153
5cats Alt facts are funny. Keep making us laugh
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Male 5,024
5cats "The fact is that many of his nominations are terrific..."

If by many you mean three then yes there are "many" nominees that will actually turn out to be good for America: Andrew Puzder for the Department of Labor, Rex Tillerson for Secretary of State, and James Mattis for Secretary of Defense. The rest of the President's nominees are grossly unqualified for their positions and seem to have been placed in them merely to destroy the departments.
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Male 5,024
Looks like I was wrong about Andrew Puzder. He just withdrew his nomination. I guess he was a lot worse than I had heard. There was no way he was going to get enough GOP votes to make it through.
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Male 40,764
markust123 He promised change, he put people in his Cabinet who aren't "beltway insiders" (and you screamed Wolf!) and these people's JOB is to bring CHANGE.
You have a problem with politicians who keep their election promises?
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Male 5,024
5cats "and you screamed Wolf!"

No, I said grossly unqualified. I should have also added: or have extreme conflicts of interests.
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Male 40,764
markust123 They were screaming Wolf before the court candidate was even named... try again.
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Male 3,446
markust123 I personally don't think Rex Tillerson is a good choice at all.  This goal will be the same as Cheney's, make his company billions on the backs of other countries. 
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Male 5,024
kalron27 "I personally don't think Rex Tillerson is a good choice at all."

I didn't think so at first either. I was horrified at the nomination. But I read up on him. As a CEO he has always been 100% for the company he is leading. And when he moves to a new company he is 100% for that new company. He doesn't carry the old role into the new one. Now the "company" is the US and I think he's going to be there for America and be a voice of reason against the crazy shit Trump will want him to do.
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Male 7,937
markust123 Why do you like Andrew Puzder?  Curious 
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Male 5,024
normalfreak2 "Why do you like Andrew Puzder?  Curious"

With a conservative nominee you're not going to get a fan of Unions nor are you going to get a champion for raising minimum wage. Take those two things away and he's pretty qualified for the position. Andrew is the head of the company that owns Carl's Jr and Hardee's. He is a labor guy put in the labor position. I think Mr. Puzder will take the job very seriously.
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Male 3,446
markust123 I'm not a fan of Unions and I think I understand why conservatives don't like them either now.  As someone who was almost forced into one all I saw was someone basically altering my job for the worse, taking away my independence while removing income from me...pure mafia mentality.  To conservatives, this is their job that someone else beat them to.

As for minimum wage, I think a better approach is to reduce the cost of living, especially of life essentials.  If housing, food and medical care were affordable we wouldn't have a minimum wage problem.
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Male 6,153
markust123 Unlike he considers other peoples jobs as menial, Lowest paid possible indentured servants of little value and replaceable pee-ons
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Male 3,446
thezigrat and @normalfreak2 This is also true, but I do see markust123 point.  The man knows labor.  He is not the worst though, can you imagine if he picked Truett Cathy?!?
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Male 6,153
kalron27 Or Sara Palin...  but wait the Trump wants to make her an ambassador and she wants to be a judge
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Male 3,446
thezigrat AHHHHHHHHHHH I BURN JUST BY THE MENTION OF THAT NAME....AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
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Male 5,024
thezigrat "Or Sara Palin...  but wait the Trump wants to make her an ambassador..."

Please let it be Poland. Please let it be Poland.
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Male 6,153
markust123 I just hope she can get those witches out of her head that she says she has before taking any new government position
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Male 7,937
markust123 Ok I see your logic.  i don't agree with it based on his beliefs.  I think poor people need to wake up.  I don't see how this guy has the best interest of the worker in mind.
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Male 287
normalfreak2 Liberals and conservatives need to stop putting neoliberals in power if they care about workers.
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Male 6,153
normalfreak2 As far as I can tell He has Trumps best interest in mind. This will soon be One Country, Of the Trump, For The Trump, in order to form a more perfect Trump Bank Account
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Male 5,024
normalfreak2 If you're looking for the best interest of the worker, liberals need to get out and vote in 2018 and gain the senate back. Two problems. First liberals don't vote in large numbers on off years. Second and worse is the Democratic senators up for election are in states Trump won. The GOP could actually end up walking away with a filibuster proof senate in 2018. I don't see the revolt happening until 2020.
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Male 3,446
markust123 This is what I was afraid of too, but I think there has been so much backlash already 2018 might just be the biggest upset in history.  Every weekend in my small town the protests are getting bigger and bigger.  Trump supports still come out too, but they are now vastly outnumbered.  The down side is that they are starting to feel uncomfortable about it...that is what is truly scary.
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Male 7,937
5cats I want you to define MSM.  Because the 1,000kg elephant in the room is Fox News.  If that's not MSM I don't know what MSM even means anymore.
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Male 9,766
5cats Stop saying "MSM" There is simply legitimate media and crazy fringe bullshit media that you pay attention to. 
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Male 6,153
holygod Like BrightBart the official news of the POTUS
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Male 7,937
Have we entered 5cats brain?
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Male 5,024
normalfreak2 All I hear is circus music.
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Male 3,446
markust123 or early Mr Bunghole

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Male 9,766
normalfreak2 Feels awfully claustrophobic huh?
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Male 6,153
holygod  It's dark in here and there are little fuzzy things running around in the corners...
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